Re: [pinhole-discussion] Powder vs. Liquid

2003-11-25 Thread Ray Beckett
>From a health & safety perspective I would choose liquid concentrates.
Kodak's HC110 is my personal favourite.
The developer is supplied as a syrupy concentrate which you are supposed to
dilute 1:3 with water to make a stock solution and ultimately 1:31 to make
dilution B. I do not make stock solution; instead, I work directly with the
syrup, which will keep at least 1 year if you exclude air from the opened
bottle.   More information at:
 http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/hc110/
Always use disposable gloves to avoid hydroquinone sensitisation/allergy.
Ray





Re: [pinhole-discussion] Powder vs. Liquid

2003-11-25 Thread Richard Heather
You are correct that it is not good to use Rodinal with Tri-X. But nothing
else is any better with Tri-X.  I have a box of 5x7 Tri-x negs that when
scanned are more grainy than 35mm TMAX.  Rodinal does work well with many
other films. TMax (1:20) and Tech-pan (1:50) make good fine grain images.
Richard Heather
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>
> More important should be the characteristics that you are seeking in your
developer.  The results you get from Rodinal, for instance, will be very
different from what you get with D76.  Rodinal, as a liquid, is more
convenient to mix, but I would never use it with a film like Tri-X (not to
say that someone else might like that combination).
>
> Then again, if you mix a liter of D76 stock, then you can dilute it for
use very quickly, so you are really only talking about the time savings of a
few minutes per month.
>
> Cheers -
>
> george
>
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> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:53:08 -0500
> Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Powder vs. Liquid
>
> Does anyone have any preference between powder developer vs. liquid
developer?As far as convience, It would seem that liquid would
be faster.are there any downsides to liquid?thanks in
advance for your thoughts...gregg b. mc neill

[pinhole-discussion] Vintage and contemporary anamorphic photos

2003-11-25 Thread Damian Michaels: Managing Director / Art Visionary
Anyone here ever heard of Louis Ducos du Hauron, a French photographic
process inventor from the 1800s ?  He did a series of anamorphic self
portraits in the mid - late 1880s. I have a few examples in a book here at
home but have not been able to find further examples of his work anywhere
else. Where does one go to find further examples of his work ? The Net has
heaps of info about him but not any more examples !

I am not too knowledgable on photography as yet. But a question I have is do
'anamorphic lenses' for standard 35mm cameras give the effect of stretched
and distorted faces. I know a lot of pinhole photogrpahers are able to
achieve this in their photos, but if I could just throw a lense on a normal
camera and go for it, that would make things easier for me to start off
with. I need a simple platform from which to begin and grow from there. I
want to see some results up front - but at the same time am willing to work
hard to achieve better results all the time as long as I can see a sort of
progression happening. I know exactly what I would want to achieve with
taking photos, but do not know how and where to begin the process. Louis
Ducos du Hauron worked very close to my ideal format with those anamorphic
self portrait photos, but I would like to take a bit further with character
study, texture variations and overall mood with using new subjects.

I welcome any feedback.

Damian




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Powder vs. Liquid

2003-11-25 Thread George L Smyth
I don't deal with them, but buy all of my chemicals through Artcraft.  They are 
less expensive, don't hammer you with excessive shipping charges, and you can 
buy small amounts.  Heck, you can even just give them a formula number in the 
darkroom Cookbook and they will send you the ingredients to mix up that 
formula.  Great company.

Cheers -

george

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Powder vs. Liquid

2003-11-25 Thread SteveS
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Powder vs. Liquid


> Does anyone have any preference between powder developer vs. liquid
> developer?
>
> As far as convience, It would seem that liquid would be faster.
>
> are there any downsides to liquid?
>
> thanks in advance for your thoughts...
>
> gregg b. mc neill

For me, using powders gets me into the rare and unusual formulae (formulas?)
and is can mix what I use, toss it at the end of the session and that
reduces waste.

Once I mixed stock solutions and it was months before I got into the DR
again, so there was lots of old and unreliable stuff.

Don't forget, there's the time for matt cutting, mounting, making portfolio
boxes, writing essays on portfolios.

I use "Shap's Bal. Bitz" from the Photographers' Formulary that keeps my
developers fresh and/or going for a long time.  Brett Weston used Dupont BB
and printed from the same tray of Amidol paper developer some 27 hours at a
time, adding a pinch of the sacred powder whenever the contrast began to
fail.

Powder forever, for me.

S. Shapiro, Carmel, CA




RE: [pinhole-discussion] Powder vs. Liquid

2003-11-25 Thread George L Smyth
More important should be the characteristics that you are seeking in your 
developer.  The results you get from Rodinal, for instance, will be very 
different from what you get with D76.  Rodinal, as a liquid, is more convenient 
to mix, but I would never use it with a film like Tri-X (not to say that 
someone else might like that combination).

Then again, if you mix a liter of D76 stock, then you can dilute it for use 
very quickly, so you are really only talking about the time savings of a few 
minutes per month.

Cheers -

george

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Powder vs. Liquid

2003-11-25 Thread Michael Healy
I prefer liquids because you can mix single shots. Right now I use Rodinal a
lot for Delta 100, HP5, and FP4 (all 4x5, 8x10, 7x10 so I don't mind the
grain). I had been using HC-110 for some time previously. To me, the
shortcoming of dry chems is that you have to mix entire batches. I don't
have a formal darkroom, and I don't have any of those flotation devices
either so - it's foolhardy for me to mix an entire batch of, say, D76 that I
use so infrequently that's it's going to go bad before I can finish it.

BUT - apart from Rodinal, I've recently moved pretty much to dry. For lith
film, I predominantly use a concoction suggested by Gord, and there's no way
to make this except from scratch. I also now make my D76 from scratch when I
need it for such films as Maco or HIE. Mixing D76 from scratch is kind of a
pain compared to the flask-popping you can achieve w/ Rodinal. But it isn't
THAT inconvenient, and the ingredients are a joke anyhow. This frees me to
do one-shot mixing.

The two drawbacks to dry: you need a triple beam or one of those digital
scales, and when you call Photo Formulary for ingredients, there's a good
chance you will have to have your name added to John Ashcroft's
Terrorists-against-American-Freedom file.

Mike

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Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Powder vs. Liquid


> Does anyone have any preference between powder developer vs. liquid
> developer?
>
> As far as convience, It would seem that liquid would be faster.
>
> are there any downsides to liquid?
>
> thanks in advance for your thoughts...
>
> gregg b. mc neill





RE: [pinhole-discussion] Powder vs. Liquid

2003-11-25 Thread andy schmitt
the only downsize is that if you spill the concentrate, you have a heck of a
liquid mess instead of a pile of powder..
andy

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Does anyone have any preference between powder developer vs. liquid
developer?

As far as convience, It would seem that liquid would be faster.

are there any downsides to liquid?

thanks in advance for your thoughts...

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[pinhole-discussion] Powder vs. Liquid

2003-11-25 Thread gregg b. mc neill
Does anyone have any preference between powder developer vs. liquid 
developer?


As far as convience, It would seem that liquid would be faster.

are there any downsides to liquid?

thanks in advance for your thoughts...

gregg b. mc neill

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