[Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#857986: Bug#857986: npm: This pakcage is 3 years old? (consider removal)
On വെള്ളി 19 മെയ് 2017 03:45 വൈകു, Jérémy Lal wrote: > There are complications to distributing npm: it depends on a LOT of > modules, which > means it requires a lot of debian-maintainer time to package, and update. https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs/Tasks/npm ie, roughly about 78 new modules to package. If one person were to work full time, I think about 10-15 days time. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Pkg-javascript-devel mailing list Pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-javascript-devel
[Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#857986: Bug#857986: npm: This pakcage is 3 years old? (consider removal)
Quoting Pirate Praveen (2017-05-22 13:27:35) > On വെള്ളി 19 മെയ് 2017 03:45 വൈകു, Jérémy Lal wrote: >> There are complications to distributing npm: it depends on a LOT of >> modules, which means it requires a lot of debian-maintainer time to >> package, and update. > > https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs/Tasks/npm ie, roughly about > 78 new modules to package. If one person were to work full time, I > think about 10-15 days time. ...for the _initial_ packaging work. We are package *maintainers*. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature -- Pkg-javascript-devel mailing list Pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-javascript-devel
[Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#857986: Bug#857986: npm: This pakcage is 3 years old? (consider removal)
On തിങ്കള് 22 മെയ് 2017 06:41 വൈകു, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > ...for the _initial_ packaging work. > > We are package *maintainers*. If you have not realized, we are discussing about maintaining an existing package. I think you have also not realized the meaning of team maintained packages. The person who did the initial package need not be the maintainer of the packager for ever. When there is enough interest in the package, it will remain maintained else it gets removed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Pkg-javascript-devel mailing list Pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-javascript-devel
[Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#857986: Bug#857986: npm: This pakcage is 3 years old? (consider removal)
2017-05-22 16:10 GMT+02:00 Pirate Praveen : > On തിങ്കള് 22 മെയ് 2017 06:41 വൈകു, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > ...for the _initial_ packaging work. > > > > We are package *maintainers*. > > If you have not realized, we are discussing about maintaining an > existing package. I think you have also not realized the meaning of team > maintained packages. The person who did the initial package need not be > the maintainer of the packager for ever. When there is enough interest > in the package, it will remain maintained else it gets removed. > I did the initial npm packaging. At that moment i was optimistic upstream wouldn't add or change dependencies too much. I was wrong, npm is constantly adding/removing modules through the months and years, requiring a lot of maintainer work to keep up. I think Jonas was pointing out that updating npm today won't actually solve any issue regarding npm maintenance. Some company should fund that work. Jérémy -- Pkg-javascript-devel mailing list Pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-javascript-devel
[Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#857986: Bug#857986: npm: This pakcage is 3 years old? (consider removal)
On 2017-05-22 15:19, Jérémy Lal wrote: 2017-05-22 16:10 GMT+02:00 Pirate Praveen : On തിങ്കള് 22 മെയ് 2017 06:41 വൈകു, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: ...for the _initial_ packaging work. We are package *maintainers*. If you have not realized, we are discussing about maintaining an existing package. I think you have also not realized the meaning of team maintained packages. The person who did the initial package need not be the maintainer of the packager for ever. When there is enough interest in the package, it will remain maintained else it gets removed. I did the initial npm packaging. At that moment i was optimistic upstream wouldn't add or change dependencies too much. I was wrong, npm is constantly adding/removing modules through the months and years, requiring a lot of maintainer work to keep up. I think Jonas was pointing out that updating npm today won't actually solve any issue regarding npm maintenance. Some company should fund that work. Jérémy Can this discussion please not be on debian-release? Thanks. -- Jonathan Wiltshire j...@debian.org Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw 4096R: 0xD3524C51 / 0A55 B7C5 1223 3942 86EC 74C3 5394 479D D352 4C51 i have six years of solaris sysadmin experience, from 8->10. i am well qualified to say it is made from bonghits layered on top of bonghits -- Pkg-javascript-devel mailing list Pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-javascript-devel
[Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#857986: Bug#857986: npm: This pakcage is 3 years old? (consider removal)
Quoting Pirate Praveen (2017-05-22 16:10:32) > On തിങ്കള് 22 മെയ് 2017 06:41 വൈകു, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> ...for the _initial_ packaging work. >> >> We are package *maintainers*. > > If you have not realized, we are discussing about maintaining an > existing package. I think you have also not realized the meaning of > team maintained packages. The person who did the initial package need > not be the maintainer of the packager for ever. When there is enough > interest in the package, it will remain maintained else it gets > removed. Exactly: Packages poorly _maintained_ should be removed. E.g. npm! My point in previous post was that focusing only on the workload for _initial_ packaging masks the actual real workload, which is being discussed here! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature -- Pkg-javascript-devel mailing list Pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-javascript-devel