[PLUG] Upgrade Perl CentOS 5.x...

2011-08-01 Thread someone
There are the perl related rpms I can't account for:

  perl-Net-SSLeay i386   1.32-1.el5.rfinstalled 829 k
  perl-IO-Compress-Base   noarch 2.008-1.el5.rf   installed 138 k
  perl-IO-Socket-SSL  noarch 1.12-1.el5.rfinstalled 102 k
  perl-GD i386   2.35-2.el5   installed 450 k
  perl-GD-Barcode noarch 1.15-1.2.el5.rf  installed  10 M
  perl-GD-Convert noarch 2.13-1.el5.rfinstalled  24 k
  perl-GD-Dashboard   noarch 0.04-1.2.el5.rf  installed  26 k
  perl-GD-Graph   noarch 1.43-1.2.el5.rf  installed 231 k
  perl-GD-Graph3d noarch 0.63-2.2.el5.rf  installed  72 k
  perl-GD-SIRDS   noarch 0.02-1.2.el5.rf  installed  11 k
  perl-GD-SVG noarch 0.28-1.el5.rfinstalled  90 k
  perl-GD-Text-Util   noarch 0.86-1.2.el5.rf  installed  77 k
  perl-Glib   i386   1.162-1.el5.rf   installed 1.5 M
  perl-Gtk2   i386   1.162-1.el5.rf   installed  12 M

http://www.kirsle.net/doc/perl510.html

I assume the GD, Glib, and Gtk2 rpms are only needed when X is installed.
I'm concerned about not being able to account for the secure socket  
layer stuff.
I've figured everything else out...

YAML
HTTP::Date
Compress::Raw::Zlib
Compress::Zlib
Test::Pod
Pod::Coverage
Crypt::PasswdMD5
Digest::HMAC
Digest::SHA1
;  GD
;  GD::Barcode
;  GD::Convert
;  GD::Dashboard
;  GD::Text
;  GD::Graph
;  Glib
;  Gtk2
HTML::Parser
IO::Socket::INET6
Net::IP
Net::DNS
Digest::BubbleBabble
SVG
String::CRC32
URI
Business::ISBN
GAAS/libwww-perl-6.02.tar.gz
Unix::Syslog
Net::DNS::Codes
Net::DNS::ToolKit
Net::Whois::IP
Proc::PidUtil
Sys::Hostname::FQDN
Data::Password::Manager
File::SafeDO
Geo::IP::PurePerl
Net::DNSBL::MultiDaemon
ExtUtils::MakeMaker
Mail::SpamCannibal

If there is a semicolon before a line, that doesn't install successfully.
Whether or not everything that needs perl still works, this seems to  
be the case.  If there is any other install I should do via CPAN,  
please let me know.

I'm running perl-5.14.1 with threading enabled.

I'm wondering if I really need the IPv6 stuff as I don't have any IPv6  
connections?


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Re: [PLUG] Spamcannibal MakeMaker mess...

2011-08-01 Thread Ali Corbin
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Michael C. Robinson <
plu...@robinson-west.com> wrote:

> ...
> True that perl is a dependency for many things, but Redhat is so slow to
> upgrade perl and so many bugs are getting squashed that it is downright
> scary to stick with the stock 5.8.8.
> ...

If you were to take a gander at perl's changelog, you might notice that
redhat doesn't stick with the stock 5.8.8 either.  They cherry pick the
fixes, and particularly the security fixes, from the newer releases and
backport them into the version that they support.
Ali
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[PLUG] XID database for Windows and Linux???

2011-08-01 Thread Michael C. Robinson
XID is a program that allows you to have say a picture and multiple ways
to reference that picture.  The software works on Windows.  Is there a
Linux version?  Has anyone used XID under WINE?

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[PLUG] Spamcannibal MakeMaker mess...

2011-08-01 Thread Michael C. Robinson
I installed perl-5.14.1 from source and followed a Redhat Enterprise
Linux how to upgrade to 5.10.0 to deduce what perl packages need to be
added manually.  None of the GD packages want to install, don't know
how important these are though.  I couldn't get the Glib or Gtk packages
to install either.  I had trouble as well with the IO::SSLeay package.
The real trouble though is with Spamcannibal.  Apparently, Michael
Robinton hacked MakeMaker, and it has since been updated.  I got a bunch
of warnings in CPAN.  Is there a way to back a package out in perl?  I
hate to start over entirely again.  At least I stored a list of what
packages I added to try to satisfy what the stock perl has.

True that perl is a dependency for many things, but Redhat is so slow to
upgrade perl and so many bugs are getting squashed that it is downright
scary to stick with the stock 5.8.8.

Back to MakeMaker, how do I safely use the older version temporarily to
get past the warnings?  Is there any chance that someone has a competing
package that does the same thing without ugly hacks?  How about a
commercial tarpit program?


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[PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: August PLUG Meeting

2011-08-01 Thread David Mandel
                        MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT

                       The Portland Linux/Unix Group
                                 will meet
                         7 PM Thursday Aug 4, 2011
                                     at
                         Portland State University
                                   in the
                              Fariborz Maseeh
             College of Engineering & Computer Science Building
                              Room FAB 86-01
                       (This is in the basement.)
          The building is on SW 4th across from SW College Street.
       See location H-10 on map at http://pdxLinux.org/campus_map.jpg

    ***


                            PRESENTATION

                        Open Source Software

                                 in

                           State Agencies

                                 by

                           Michael Smith

     Michael Smith works for the State of Oregon.  He will discuss
     his experience introducing and trying to introduce Open Source
     Solutions into state government agencies.

     Michael, you may wish to elaborate on my abstract.

    ***

        Agenda:

            7:00 - 7:30  Business
                 We will discuss the status of our ongoing projects
                 including PLUG's monthly Advanced Topics meetings,
                 PLUG's monthly hands on clinics, PLUG for Education,
                 etc.

            7:30 - 8:30  Presentation

                 See above

            9:00 - ...  Beer
                        The Lucky Lab Northwest Beerhall
                        1945 NW Quimby
                        Portland, Oregon

                                        David Mandel
                                        Chief Activist
                                        Portland Linux/Unix Group
                                        560 SE Alexander
                                        Corvallis, Oregon 97333
                                        (541) 730-5285 mobile
                                        dmandel at pdxLinux.org

        P.S.  The Mid Willamette Valley Linux Users Group is trying
              to reorganize.
              See http://www.lug.corvallis.or.us/ for details.

        P.S.  The Eugene Linux Users Group meets several times a month.
              See http://www.euglug.org for details.

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[PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: August PLUG Meeting

2011-08-01 Thread David Mandel
From: David Mandel 
To: Portland Linux User Group Announcements ,
Portland Linux User Group ,
Eugene Linux Users List ,
"Mid-Willamette Valley Linux Users Group" 
CC: David Mandel ,
Geoff Burling ,
Dennis Gilbert ,
Russell Senior 


Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: August PLUG Meeting


 MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT

The Portland Linux/Unix Group
  will meet
  7 PM Thursday Aug 4, 2011
  at
  Portland State University
in the
   Fariborz Maseeh
  College of Engineering & Computer Science Building
   Room FAB 86-01
(This is in the basement.)
   The building is on SW 4th across from SW College Street.
See location H-10 on map at http://pdxLinux.org/campus_map.jpg

 ***


 PRESENTATION

 Open Source Software

  in

State Agencies

  by

Michael Smith

  Michael Smith works for the State of Oregon.  He will discuss
  his experience introducing and trying to introduce Open Source
  Solutions into state government agencies.

  Michael, you may wish to elaborate on my abstract.

 ***

 Agenda:

 7:00 - 7:30  Business
  We will discuss the status of our ongoing projects
  including PLUG's monthly Advanced Topics meetings,
  PLUG's monthly hands on clinics, PLUG for Education,
  etc.

 7:30 - 8:30  Presentation

  See above

 9:00 - ...  Beer
 The Lucky Lab Northwest Beerhall
 1945 NW Quimby
 Portland, Oregon

 David Mandel
 Chief Activist
 Portland Linux/Unix Group
 560 SE Alexander
 Corvallis, Oregon 97333
 (541) 730-5285 mobile
 dmandel at pdxLinux.org

 P.S.  The Mid Willamette Valley Linux Users Group is trying
   to reorganize.
   See http://www.lug.corvallis.or.us/ for details.

 P.S.  The Eugene Linux Users Group meets several times a month.
   See http://www.euglug.org for details.

==
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Portland Linux/Unix Group   http://pdxLinux.org
LinuxFund   http://LinuxFund.org
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Re: [PLUG] Custom perl...

2011-08-01 Thread Dale Snell
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 01:12:03 -0700
someone  wrote:

> To get spamcannibal to work, I need to replace CentOS 5.6's
> perl-5.8.8 with perl-5.12.1 or better.  How do I get yum update
> to work despite the fact that I'm breaking the perl
> dependencies?  Can I get yum to report the dependencies and
> then ignore them?  I need to know what I thinks is missing so I
> can cpan2rpm install them...
> 
> Michael C. Robinson

The "deplist" command to yum will list the dependencies for a
package.  Note that there are a lot of them for perl.  You'll
probably have to enable the Fedora repositories (fedora.repo,
fedora-updates.repo) so that yum will see the version of perl that
you want.  Then you should be able to do

  yum upgrade perl-5.12.3-143.fc14

That should pull in perl and all of its dependencies.  (I'm
still running F14; I have no idea if F15 has a later release of
perl.)

WARNING:  I THINK this will work, but I've never done it before.
I have no idea what other things might be pulled in if you do
this.  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

Good Luck!

--Dale

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Re: [PLUG] Custom perl...

2011-08-01 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, someone wrote:

> To get spamcannibal to work, I need to replace CentOS 5.6's 
> perl-5.8.8 with perl-5.12.1 or better.  How do I get yum update to 
> work despite the fact that I'm breaking the perl dependencies?  Can 
> I get yum to report the dependencies and then ignore them?  I need 
> to know what I thinks is missing so I can cpan2rpm install them...

Michael,

I'm always reluctant to overwrite a core CentOS package like perl. Too 
many other utilities have perl tie-ins to make that an easily 
maintained solution.

My suggestion: create , e.g., /usr/local/spamcannibal. The build your 
own Perl and install it there. The use that perl, 
/usr/local/spamcannibal/bin/perl (or whatever), to build and install 
the other modules spamcannibal needs to operate.

In your mail configs, use that installation, rather than 
/usr/bin/perl, to run things.

Ideally, you'd keep track of everything you did for the build and 
codify it in a shell script so it can be repeated if necessary.

-- 
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[PLUG] Custom perl...

2011-08-01 Thread someone
To get spamcannibal to work, I need to replace CentOS 5.6's perl-5.8.8 with
perl-5.12.1 or better.  How do I get yum update to work despite the fact that
I'm breaking the perl dependencies?  Can I get yum to report the dependencies
and then ignore them?  I need to know what I thinks is missing so I  
can cpan2rpm install them...

Michael C. Robinson


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