Re: Skills for the future

2022-12-11 Thread greg zegan via PLUG-discuss
 Hello,  I don't want to offend anyone but I would like to express some 
thoughts on this subject.  It seems after months of this discussion it might be 
a good idea to set aside a special email thread to discuss this material so 
others aren't annoyed by the comments and opinions that are non-technical.  I 
actuallyhave enjoyed this little discussion because it proves these subjects 
are important to everyone especially technically inclined individuals. 
As for my involvement in the subject of ethics I can point to a second year 
computer science course I took at SCC in the late 90's csc200.  As the semester 
wound down to the final weeks the teacher said he wanted us to write a short 
essay on the subject of how technology can impact the lives of others.  He 
proposed the question: "If you had to write a program that would put people out 
of their jobs would you do so and why?"
I remember he had us write out the ten commandments of computing in a program 
as the first programming assignment:CPSR - The Ten Commandments of Computer 
Ethics


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As a result I have researched and read many books on the subject so forgive me 
if we deviate a little.  All of you mean something to me and others so lets not 
fight against one another.  
Turning to Linux again, in the next year what subject would you study so that 
you would have the skills to find good reliable jobs and careers to providefor 
yourself?
Lets come up with a plan that is broken down into 3 months for each skill so 
that each of us has what it takes to compete for and acquire the best jobs and 
maybe just maybe we can turn the economic ship in the direction it need go in 
for all of us.thanks,Greg




On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 06:13:06 AM MST, George Toft via 
PLUG-discuss  wrote:  
 
 Part 2 on your 35% comment:

with higher prices come higher wages and the gov't gets more taxes.  
After a few years, Congress will adjust the tax code, meanwhile the 
really low income folks who weren't paying much, pay quite a bit.

Regards,

George Toft

On 12/2/2022 7:19 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
>
>
> On 2022-12-01 22:37, Ed via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> you should look up the difference between a recession and a
>> depression. Odds are we will have a middling recession, but the real
>> problem is and will be inflation. Inflation is a ratchet, it only goes
>> in one direction and hits everyone and everything*. It's like a
>> network that has more and more noise on the line. For context,
>> consider that people experience something like a half dozen recessions
>> in their lifetime - more or less. It's the business cycle.
>
> I'm old so I have lived through more bad economies than good economies.
>
> I think this one is going to be the worst of all.
>
>
>>
>> You already said it -  you expect robotics to become more involved so
>> go do that. Just remember robots are capital intensive - so go with
>> the big.
>>
>
> I'm specializing in browser based business web apps.  I like robotics, 
> however at this station in my life it is probably not a good fit.
>
>
>> *except for Japan and it's lost decade(s) - they had/have deflation
>
>
> I think we are about to have really bad inflation for the next 10 
> years. Based on what I hear, the fed cannot raise interest rates high 
> enough to kill inflation because we have over 30 trillion in national 
> debt.  It is my understanding that as they raise interest rates the 
> cost of servicing the debt goes up.  Given that we may have to just 
> ride this out.
>
> Another thought that is floating around is the Federal Gov. likes 
> inflation.  Think about it.  If we have 10% inflation for the next 10 
> years that means the value of national debt is reduced to 35% of what 
> is is today.
>
>
>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 7:13 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am reading and watching YouTube videos that say the economy is going
>>> to tank to maybe as bad as the depression.
>>>
>>> If this is true what skills are going to be in demand.
>>>
>>> I suspect there will be a real push to automate things so I'm guessing
>>> those who can create browser based business web apps and phone apps 
>>> will
>>> be in high demand.  That will equate to the administrator skills to
>>> support such things.
>>>
>>> I also expect robotics to become more involved in factories,
>>> manufacturing, and even flipping burgers.
>>>
>>> What say you?
>>>
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>> Keith
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Re: Skills for the future

2022-12-11 Thread George Toft via PLUG-discuss

Part 2 on your 35% comment:

with higher prices come higher wages and the gov't gets more taxes.  
After a few years, Congress will adjust the tax code, meanwhile the 
really low income folks who weren't paying much, pay quite a bit.


Regards,

George Toft

On 12/2/2022 7:19 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Hi Ed,



On 2022-12-01 22:37, Ed via PLUG-discuss wrote:

you should look up the difference between a recession and a
depression. Odds are we will have a middling recession, but the real
problem is and will be inflation. Inflation is a ratchet, it only goes
in one direction and hits everyone and everything*. It's like a
network that has more and more noise on the line. For context,
consider that people experience something like a half dozen recessions
in their lifetime - more or less. It's the business cycle.


I'm old so I have lived through more bad economies than good economies.

I think this one is going to be the worst of all.




You already said it -  you expect robotics to become more involved so
go do that. Just remember robots are capital intensive - so go with
the big.



I'm specializing in browser based business web apps.  I like robotics, 
however at this station in my life it is probably not a good fit.




*except for Japan and it's lost decade(s) - they had/have deflation



I think we are about to have really bad inflation for the next 10 
years. Based on what I hear, the fed cannot raise interest rates high 
enough to kill inflation because we have over 30 trillion in national 
debt.  It is my understanding that as they raise interest rates the 
cost of servicing the debt goes up.  Given that we may have to just 
ride this out.


Another thought that is floating around is the Federal Gov. likes 
inflation.  Think about it.  If we have 10% inflation for the next 10 
years that means the value of national debt is reduced to 35% of what 
is is today.






On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 7:13 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:




Hi,

I am reading and watching YouTube videos that say the economy is going
to tank to maybe as bad as the depression.

If this is true what skills are going to be in demand.

I suspect there will be a real push to automate things so I'm guessing
those who can create browser based business web apps and phone apps 
will

be in high demand.  That will equate to the administrator skills to
support such things.

I also expect robotics to become more involved in factories,
manufacturing, and even flipping burgers.

What say you?

Thanks!!

Keith
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