[political-research] FLASHBACK: The Men From JINSA and CSP, by Jason Vest, 9/2/02
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: The Men From JINSA and CSP, by Jason Vest, 9/2/02 via Yahoo! Search: JINSA on 10/30/07 On no issue is the JINSA/CSP hard line more evident than in its relentless campaign for war ... JINSA is also cheering the US military ... Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to Yahoo! Search: JINSA using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites
[political-research] Kalifornia Dreamin' (A False Flag Fire Drill)
Kalifornia Dreamin' A False Flag Fire Drill By Captain Eric H. May Military Correspondent All the leaves are brown and the sky is gray, I've been for a walk on a winter's day, I'd be safe and warm if I was in L.A., California dreamin' on such a winter's day. -- The Mamas and the Papas Ashes were falling like snow across Southern California last week, as the Santa Ana winds blew in to fan the flames and a heat wave bore down. It was hot for everybody, no matter where they were; but for those fighting the fires it was hotter than hell. Folks wept at their losses and lamented that their beautiful landscape had become a desolate moonscape. The fires started on Sunday, Oct. 21, and they encircled their principal target of San Diego with military precision. You can't fault people for feeling like they're under attack when a natural disaster hits them. As the week wore on and the flames burned on, disturbing facts began to emerge to show that their feelings were right. Cold-Blooded Arson Whoever did this knew what they were doing, said Kris Concepcion, a fire authority battalion chief. Multiple witnesses attested to multiple fires being set by arsonists to attack targeted areas. Police shot and killed one alleged arsonist who was trying to make a getaway. Fox News lead an infowar campaign to attribute the arsons to Al Qaeda, the ubiquitous Bush League bogeyman. By the end of the first week, though, there was no evidence to support the claim that bin Laden's buddies had torched dreamland. This would not do at all. There must be a criminal for every crime, else the people will begin to ask uncomfortable questions about just who the criminals might be. Politicos and Presstitutes searched for an appropriate patsy, and reasoned that if the incendiaries couldn't be little brown Muslims then they must have been little brown Mexicans, who were a pretty close match in the public mind. It was too little too late, of course. The Internet cat came yowling and scratching out of the mainstream media bag, despite their best efforts to contain it. Now, on the 10th day since the advent of the fires, cybersleuths have exposed the Fox Al Qaeda stories as warmed over propaganda from 2003 FBI sources. Likewise, they have networked the information that California fire stations were reporting professional efforts to gather intelligence on their layout and operations during the summer. Hard-Boiled Facts Call me a cynic if you must, but it's never easy for me to accept the pat answer to any complex question. I oppose historic official stories blaming the Christians for burning Rome, the Jews for burning the Reichstag and the Muslims for burning the Twin Towers. Accordingly, I also oppose the current official story blaming the Mexicans for burning California. One fact stares at me through all the smoke and mirrors. The fires began only hours after a border fracas between Turkey and Iraqi Kurds ended with dozens dead and a nation of Turks crying out for a punitive invasion. While California cooked, the government of Turkey authorized war, then mobilized and massed its forces against Northwest Iraq. There was an uncomfortable possibility that they would attack under the pretext of rooting out terrorists, then take over oil resources. All of this was fine historic irony, of course, since four years ago, Turkey refused a substantial US bribe in exchange for permission to use its territory as a staging area for an attack to root out terrorists, then take over oil resources. It required something very gripping to distract the American people away from the spectacle of our collapsing central front in the war on terror, something like a San Diego sideshow, perhaps. The Bush League has always been lucky when it comes to catastrophes. Without 9/11 they never would have had an excuse to initiate the Global War or implement the Homeland State, two projects they had already envisioned and planned for before Bush assumed the presidency. The Germanator and the Burning Bush I appreciate the leadership of Governor Schwarzenegger. I said earlier when we were at the neighborhood, there's no hill he's not willing to charge, no problem he's not willing to solve. -- George W. Bush, standing beside Arnold Schwarzenegger I'm guilty of yellow journalism for labeling Arnold The Germanator. He was born in Austria, after all, and I know that quite well. But then again, Hitler was born in Austria, too. If the jackboot fits, then Arnold must wear it. It's impossible for me to see any leader standing in a fire zone beside our cheerleader in chief and not think of them both as a couple of Neo Nero's, fiddling with torches. Seeing all of this destruction this week has been saddening, but at the same time I have to say it also has been very inspirational, because we have seen how people have
[political-research] Luke Ryland
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: Luke Ryland via Antiwar.com Blog by Scott Horton on 10/30/07 Download audio file (07_10_30_ryland.mp3) Luke Ryland, proprietor of the blogs Against All Enemies and Let Sibel Edmonds Speak, discusses the story of former contract FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, her newly announced willingness to defy her gag order in order to get her story out, the stonewalling of the courts and the Congress, her credibility and accusations of criminal activities against various prominent Congressmen, cabinet members, neoconservatives, military industrial complex executives, and lobbyists for Israel and Turkey. MP3 here. (42:51) Luke Ryland blogs at Against All Enemies, Let Sibel Edmonds Speak, Kill the Messenger, Disclose Denny, and WotIsItGood4. He lives in Tasmania. Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to Antiwar.com Blog using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites
[political-research] Kucinich: 'I did' see a UFO w/great response
Kucinich: 'I did' see a UFO * Now, to answer your question,'' Kucinich said, ... I'm also going to move my campaign office to Roswell, New Mexico and another one, an extra, to New Hampshire, okay... * * And also, you have to keep in mind that more -- that Jimmy Carter saw a UFO, * * and also that more people in this country have seen UFOs than, I think, approve of George Bush's presidency.'' got to love that response - crg _The Swamp: Kucinich: 'I did' see a UFO_ (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/kucinich_i_did_see_a_ufo.html) Kucinich: 'I did' see a UFO by Mark Silva Rep. Dennis Kucinch of Ohio was asked this during a debate of the Democratic candidates for president tonight: Has he ever seen a UFO? (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog/UFO.jpg) The godmother of your daughter, Shirley MacLaine, writes in her new book that you've sighted a UFO over her home in Washington state,'' the questioner asked, that you found the encounter extremely moving, that it was a triangular craft silent and hovering, that you felt a connection to your heart and heard direction in your mind. Now,'' Kucininch was asked, did you see a UFO?''' I did,'' Kucinich said. And the rest of the account -- I didn't -- I -- it was unidentified flying object, okay. It's like -- it's unidentified. I saw something. Now, to answer your question,'' Kucinich said, 'm moving my -- and I'm also going to move my campaign office to Roswell, New Mexico and another one, an extra, to New Hampshire, okay... And also, you have to keep in mind that more -- that Jimmy Carter saw a UFO, and also that more people in this country have seen UFOs than, I think, approve of George Bush's presidency.'' Questioner Tim Russert replied: 14 percent of Americans say they have seen UFOs.'' In the post-debate interviews, Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico said he is happy to promote tourism in Roswell, but he has never seen a UFO. Posted by Mark Silva on October 30, 2007 11:17 PM | _Permalink_ (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/kucinich_i_did_see_a_ufo.html) Peace, Hugs, and Purrs, Carolyn Rose Goyda St. Louis, Missouri, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[political-research] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Is_US_Stuck_in_Internet's_Slow_Lane??=
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: Is US Stuck in Internet's Slow Lane? via CommonDreams.org Headlines07 by CommonDreams.org on 10/31/07 The United States is starting to look like a slowpoke on the Internet. Examples abound of countries that have faster and cheaper broadband connections, and more of their population connected to them. What's less clear is how badly the country that gave birth to the Internet is doing, and whether the government needs to step in [...] Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to CommonDreams.org Headlines07 using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites
[political-research] Google's shares pass $700 mark
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: Google's shares pass $700 mark via CNET News.com on 10/31/07 Shares kiss the $700 mark in early morning trading Wednesday, marking a new first for the Internet giant and its soaring stock price. Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to CNET News.com using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites
[political-research] A Semantic Web Primer, 2nd edition (Cooperative Information Systems)
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: A Semantic Web Primer, 2nd edition (Cooperative Information Systems) via Amazon.com: Semantic Web in Books on 10/31/07 The substantially updated second edition of a widely used guide to the key ideas, languages, and technologies of the Semantic Web, featuring additional coverage of new application areas, new tools, and other recent developments. Author: Grigoris Antoniou, Frank vanHarmelen Hardcover: 288 pages Company: The MIT Press (2008-03-31) ISBN: 0262012421 List Price: $42.00 Amazon Price: $42.00 Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to Amazon.com: Semantic Web in Books using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites
[political-research] Free Documents at DocStoc [Document Sharing]
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: Free Documents at DocStoc [Document Sharing] via Lifehacker by Kevin Purdy on 10/31/07 Need a template for your business plan, a tutorial on Python programming, or a copy of the Gettysburg address? Document sharing web site DocStoc has more than 12,000 files posted for free browsing and downloads. Registered members can keep personal folders on the site with links to useful docs and get notified by email when another user uploads a file type they request. Those looking for straight-up legal forms have other options, but DocStoc's wide range might make it a useful bookmark for when you just need to see an example--or you need a PowerPoint template to modify in a hurry. docstoc [via Download Squad] Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to Lifehacker using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites
[political-research] MSNBC asks Was Bin Laden's last video faked?
[There is a high probability that all of the bin Laden videos since 9/11 have been faked.] Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: MSNBC asks Was Bin Laden's last video faked? via 911Blogger.com - Paying Attention to 9/11 Related Alternative News by Kevin Fenton on 10/31/07 Good on MSNBC for asking the question. The article begins: When al-Qaida's media arm released its first Osama Bin Laden video in nearly three years, most of the media attention was focused on Bin Laden's beard. It appeared either dyed -- or perhaps even pasted on. He was ridiculed and a variety of theories were offered to explain it. But now, there is a running debate among video analysts about whether al-Qaida faked the video altogether --that rather than being new, the September 7 message may have been something recorded at the same time as his last video in October 2004 (and then released with new audio). More at link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21530470 Krawetz makes a lot of sense to me. Vote ResultScore: 0.0, Votes: 0 Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to 911Blogger.com - Paying Attention to 9/11 Related Alternative News using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites
[political-research] The Giuliani Lexicon: A Noun, A Verb, and 9/11
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: The Giuliani Lexicon: A Noun, A Verb, and 9/11 via Antiwar.com Blog by Justin Raimondo on 10/31/07 Joe Biden justified his presidential campaign by getting off the best line of Tuesday night's debates. Opining that Rudy Giuliani is probably the most underqualified man since George Bush to seek the presidency, he averred: There's only three things he mentions in a sentence -- a noun, a verb, and 9/11. There's nothing else! There's nothing else! And I mean this sincerely. He's genuinely not qualified to be president. Someone finally said it: the wannabe Emperor has no clothes. Here's the video. Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to Antiwar.com Blog using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites
[political-research] Knowledge Discovery for Counterterrorism and Law Enforcement
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: Knowledge Discovery for Counterterrorism and Law Enforcement via Amazon.com: data mining in Books on 10/31/07 Author: David Skillicorn Hardcover: Company: CRC (2008-12-15) ISBN: 1420073990 List Price: $79.95 Amazon Price: $79.95 Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to Amazon.com: data mining in Books using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites
[political-research] Elements of Argumentation
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: Elements of Argumentation via Amazon.com: artificial intelligence in Books on 10/31/07 Logic-based formalizations of argumentation, which assume a set of formulae and then lay out arguments and counterarguments that can be obtained from these formulae, have been refined in recent years in an attempt to capture more closely real-world practical argumentation. In Elements of Argumentation, Philippe Besnard and Anthony Hunter introduce techniques for formalizing deductive argumentation in artificial intelligence, emphasizing emerging formalizations for practical argumentation. Besnard and Hunter discuss how arguments can be constructed, how key intrinsic and extrinsic factors can be identified, and how these analyses can be harnessed for formalizing argumentation for use in real-world problem analysis and decision making. The book focuses on a monological approach to argumentation, in which there is a set of possibly conflicting pieces of information (each represented by a formula) that has been collated by an agent or a pool of agents. The role of argumentation is to construct a collection of arguments and counterarguments pertaining to some particular claim of interest to be used for analysis or presentation. Elements of Argumentation is the first book to elucidate and formalize key elements of deductive argumentation. It will be a valuable reference for researchers in computer science and artificial intelligence and of interest to scholars in such fields as logic, philosophy, linguistics, and cognitive science. Author: Philippe Besnard, Anthony Hunter Hardcover: 320 pages Company: The MIT Press (2008-06-30) ISBN: 0262026430 List Price: $35.00 Amazon Price: $35.00 Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to Amazon.com: artificial intelligence in Books using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites
[political-research] ATT Tilt Smartphone (ATT)
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: ATT Tilt Smartphone (ATT) via Amazon.com: smartphone in Amazon.com on 10/29/07 The slim, pocket-sized ATT Tilt smartphone is bursting at the seams with a full-menu of wireless capabilities to keep you connected wherever you roam on this globe--quad-band GSM for global roaming, Wi-Fi, EDGE, and 3G data connectivity via ATT's UMTS/HSDPA-based BroadbandConnect network. Practical and versatile, the phone's face slides open to reveal a full QWERTY keyboard while the screen tilts for optimal viewing of email, spreadsheets, and web videos. It also adds the power of the Windows Mobile 6 operating system (Professional Edition), which provides push email for immediate send and receive as well as editing of Microsoft Office documents. (See more details about Windows Mobile 6 below.) With its high-speed 3G network capability, you'll be able to access ATT's Mobile Music and Cellular Video services, and the phone includes the latest version of Telenav GPS Navigator for turn-by-turn directions while on the go. One of the most powerful, feature-packed smartphones on the market, the ATT Tilt also includes a 3-megapixel camera (with video capabilities), Bluetooth connectivity with stereo music streaming and multiple connection capability, MicroSD memory card expansion up to 4 GB, and a variety of games for when you need a break (including Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 and Ms. Pac-Man). The ATT Tilt is a veritable wireless Swiss Army Knife, with quad-band GSM, tri-band 3G, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth connectivity as well as a GPS receiver. ATT Service The ATT Tilt can handle high-speed data connectivity via ATT's 3G mobile broadband data network, which is available in most major metropolitan areas. The ATT 3G network uses the UMTS 850/1900/2100 network (also known as WCDMA), making it possible to enjoy a variety of feature-rich wireless multimedia services with speeds up to 3.6 Mbps. It also gives ATT the advantage of offering simultaneous voice and data services. You'll also enjoy 3G broadband speed connectivity across the globe with tri-band UMTS/HSDPA capabilities, which allows the Tilt to operate in Japan and Korea, in addition to the more than 135 countries in which ATT offers international data roaming. In areas where the 3G network is not available, you'll continue to receive service on the ATT EDGE network, which offers availability in more than 13,000 US cities and along some 40,000 miles of major highways. Providing average data speeds between 75-135Kbps, it's fast enough to support a wide range of advanced data services, including video and music clips, full picture and video messaging, high-speed color Internet access, and email on the go. With 3G connectivity, you'll be able to access ATT's Cellular Video (CV) service and the Internet while on the go. Cellular Video features content from CNN, The Weather Channel, iFilm, Comedy Central and exclusive premium content from HBO and much more. It also features ATT Mobile Music, which provides access to Napster and eMusic subscription services as well as Music ID song-recognition software, music videos and The Buzz music news portal. The handset is XM Radio Mobile-capable, so you can enjoy streaming live digital radio as well. (An ATT MEdia Max subscription bundle is recommended for accessing ATT's Internet, video, and music services.) Like a micro laptop, the ATT Tilt features a full QWERTY keyboard and a face/touchscreen that tilts up to 40 degrees. Phone Features Akin to a micro laptop, the ATT Tilt's face/touchscreen tilts up to a maximum of 40 degrees, and the variable screen angle can be positioned to suit your needs, whether you're catching up on email, browsing the Web, or playing a game. The QWERTY keypad offers roomy, rectangular buttons that are tactile and backlit, making it easy to type with both thumbs while on the go. The large 2.8-inch touchscreen has a 240 x 320-pixel resolution and support for up to 65K colors. It sports a 256 MB memory (not all user available) and a MicroSD memory card slot, which is compatible with the latest 4 GB capacity. This smartphone has an integrated Wi-Fi LAN (802.11b/g), enabling seamless connectivity with wireless networks at work, at home, and on the roam via Wi-Fi hotspots at airports and coffee shops. For an additional charge, you can connect to any of the 10,000 ATT hotspot locations in the U.S. and tens of thousands more abroad. The ATT Tilt supports Bluetooth 2.0, which allows up to six Bluetooth devices to be wirelessly connected simultaneously to the device--one of which can be a Bluetooth stereo headset for listening to music. Featuring the latest version of Telenav GPS Navigator, you'll enjoyGPS-enabled turn-by-turn voice and on-screen driving direction, colorful 3D moving maps and traffic delay alerts with re-routing for use in vehicles or while walking. New features debuting on the Tilt include address sharing--allowing you to share your location with friends and
[political-research] Only Four Slots to Go
[This is mind-blowing:] Rank Company Market Cap (Bil) Ticker 1 Exxon Mobil $505 XOM 2 General Electric $415 GE 3 Microsoft $333 MSFT 4 ATT $251 T 5 Google $217 GOOG 6 Procter Gamble $215 PG 7 Bank of America $213 BAC 8 Citigroup $209 C Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: Only Four Slots to Go via John Battelle's Searchblog on 10/31/07 And Google will be the largest company in the US. Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to John Battelle's Searchblog using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites
[political-research] Re: [911TruthAction] 9/11 Video Fakery Prison Planet
The main problem with the no-planers: vicious fanaticism and intolerance. They have expended much more energy in attacking the most effective voices in the 9/11 Truth Movement than in going after the most likely suspects for 9/11. We don't know that they are a COINTELPRO-style op, but we do know that this is precisely what such an op would look like. 9/11 truth seekers should keep an open mind about competing theories concerning the who, how and why of 9/11 until all the facts are in, and treat opposing views with civility as part of the truth-seeking process. The no-planers have attempted to disrupt and destroy this amity at every turn. The HOW of 9/11 strikes me as a minor detail -- I am much more interested in the WHO, WHY and what's next on the dance card in the campaign to instigate World War IV. John Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10/31/2007 11:00 AM, you wrote: Most likely because the no planers are a hoax. Attempting to rationalize with them is impossible - it seems that when they have fixated on this issue they aren't able to listen to any reason or logic. The evidence that no planers are way out in left field is fairly overwhelming and anyone who looks at thier evidence - objectively - can see this. It seems that the rest of the Truth Movement is trying hard to either show the no-planers some reason - mostly they wont listen - and since thier lineo f thought does NOTHING but hurt the truth movement, I suspect this is why AJ isn;t putting up with the garbage. The whole theory does more harm than good. Even if it is correct (and I havent seen any evidence save fuzzy video to say it is) the no planers are doing more harm than good in trying to further the movement. Even f they are correct, the believablility factor is such that anyone who was on the edge of considering 9/11 as an inside job, immediatley is turned off by this far out theory. I will second Andy Long. My father was into conspiracy theories like the Money Masters. He was right about a great many things, as I realized after he passed away. But unfortunately, he had also picked up a couple poison pills. He used to try like anything to win me over to the alternative viewpoint. I'd listen politely, and he would make some yardage, but then he would mention the Nephelin, the shape-shifting reptilians. Well, a course in biology was part of my education, and creatures that can change their shape between human and reptile are just too big a stretch. My very strong reaction was to throw out everything else he had said and stick with my mainstream vanilla conformity. Decades of work out the window! TV fakery might not even be as big a stretch as Nephelins, but if you have tried as hard as I have to explain basic stuff like free fall speed and explosive demolition, and see people rationalize, change the subject, appeal to authority and every other fallacy in the book, instead of facing what's clear as a sunny day, so that you still can't make a bit of headway - well, let's put it this way: It's so hard to get a day in court with the brainwashed public, that you definitely want to present ONLY your best evidence when you get a chance to make your case. Any no-planers who are truely in this to help out and strengthen the movement can see this - its obvious - so those who continue despite this fact are then thrown in a catagory (correct or not) of disinfo artists - thier intent is viewed as trying to hurt the progression, not help. So, I imagine until the no-planers can step up with some evidence that passes critical thinking tests, they will continue to be viewed as the 'bad guys' of the truth movement. Right or wrong, its how I read the situation. - Original Message - From: Ray Antoky To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: [911TruthAction] 9/11 Video Fakery Prison Planet Friends, Just attempted to post a new article on Prison Planet broaching the idea of video fakery and presenting a mild argument for fake planes such as soft noses can't penetrate steel builings and a plane can't enter a building whole without breaking etc. Innocent enough on a supposedly open forum. Guess what? I was IMMEDIATELY BANNED from using the forums. How can that be? I thought Alex Jones was the premier expert on every conspiracy under the sun. I thought he was a friend to all the downtrodden mind-controlled manipulated folks. I thought he was the savior. Could it be that he is really a BAD GUY? Thta he does not want his minions to know that 9/11 was a hoax? A video joke on the world? What is left to believe in if I can't trust Prison Planet? What site can I go to for real inside honest info that is not controlled by the enemy? Rense? Rumor Mill News?Any suggestions? TV fakery is
[political-research] TRICK OR TREAT! -- Jews of power, Jews of truth
If I had written this column myself, the COINTELPRO jackals who follow Ghost Troop around would be howling at the moon that I was anti-Semite. The truth, though, is that the column was written by a Jewish author for the Jerusalem Post. I guess they published it today as a Halloween special, so I'm doing my bit to support their cause. I've got a feeling that this piece will be a treat for the Truth Jews it praises, and a trick for the Power Jews it condemns. Enjoy, y'all -- and ask yourself why it is that the American media never discusses the issue of Jewish political power. Just who the heck runs our media anyhow? Don't be afraid to ask the question, and don't be afraid when you figure out the answer! Happy Halloween! Captain May http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1192380703974pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
[political-research] Re: [911TruthAction] 9/11 Video Fakery Prison Planet
Consider Watergate and Iran-Contra: we discovered the HOW and WHAT of those scandals after identifying WHO was behind them and then using the political and legal system to squeeze the truth out of the perps. The only people who really know the details of how 9/11 was executed are the people who did the deed. Vigorous debate about the HOW and WHAT of 9/11 is valuable; getting locked into a dogmatic position on this or that theory about any aspect of 9/11 before all the facts are in is counterproductive, in my opinion. The towers may have been brought down by controlled demolition, directed-energy weapons, mini-nukes or some other means; I am not certain. But I am certain that we need a new thorough investigation into every unanswered question about 9/11. Total Information [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you get to the WHO without knowing HOW WHAT happened? On 10/31/07, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main problem with the no-planers: vicious fanaticism and intolerance. They have expended much more energy in attacking the most effective voices in the 9/11 Truth Movement than in going after the most likely suspects for 9/11. We don't know that they are a COINTELPRO-style op, but we do know that this is precisely what such an op would look like. 9/11 truth seekers should keep an open mind about competing theories concerning the who, how and why of 9/11 until all the facts are in, and treat opposing views with civility as part of the truth-seeking process. The no-planers have attempted to disrupt and destroy this amity at every turn. The HOW of 9/11 strikes me as a minor detail -- I am much more interested in the WHO, WHY and what's next on the dance card in the campaign to instigate World War IV. John Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10/31/2007 11:00 AM, you wrote: Most likely because the no planers are a hoax. Attempting to rationalize with them is impossible - it seems that when they have fixated on this issue they aren't able to listen to any reason or logic. The evidence that no planers are way out in left field is fairly overwhelming and anyone who looks at thier evidence - objectively - can see this. It seems that the rest of the Truth Movement is trying hard to either show the no-planers some reason - mostly they wont listen - and since thier lineo f thought does NOTHING but hurt the truth movement, I suspect this is why AJ isn;t putting up with the garbage. The whole theory does more harm than good. Even if it is correct (and I havent seen any evidence save fuzzy video to say it is) the no planers are doing more harm than good in trying to further the movement. Even f they are correct, the believablility factor is such that anyone who was on the edge of considering 9/11 as an inside job, immediatley is turned off by this far out theory. I will second Andy Long. My father was into conspiracy theories like the Money Masters. He was right about a great many things, as I realized after he passed away. But unfortunately, he had also picked up a couple poison pills. He used to try like anything to win me over to the alternative viewpoint. I'd listen politely, and he would make some yardage, but then he would mention the Nephelin, the shape-shifting reptilians. Well, a course in biology was part of my education, and creatures that can change their shape between human and reptile are just too big a stretch. My very strong reaction was to throw out everything else he had said and stick with my mainstream vanilla conformity. Decades of work out the window! TV fakery might not even be as big a stretch as Nephelins, but if you have tried as hard as I have to explain basic stuff like free fall speed and explosive demolition, and see people rationalize, change the subject, appeal to authority and every other fallacy in the book, instead of facing what's clear as a sunny day, so that you still can't make a bit of headway - well, let's put it this way: It's so hard to get a day in court with the brainwashed public, that you definitely want to present ONLY your best evidence when you get a chance to make your case. Any no-planers who are truely in this to help out and strengthen the movement can see this - its obvious - so those who continue despite this fact are then thrown in a catagory (correct or not) of disinfo artists - thier intent is viewed as trying to hurt the progression, not help. So, I imagine until the no-planers can step up with some evidence that passes critical thinking tests, they will continue to be viewed as the 'bad guys' of the truth movement. Right or wrong, its how I read the situation. - Original Message - From: Ray Antoky To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: [911TruthAction] 9/11 Video Fakery Prison Planet Friends, Just attempted to post a new article on Prison
[political-research] Carter's Efforts To Mend Ties With Community Get C old Shoulder
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: Carter's Efforts To Mend Ties With Community Get Cold Shoulder via The Forward on 10/31/07 Jimmy Carter's newest efforts to repair relations with the Jewish community were rebuffed not once but twice last week -- and at the very highest levels. Things you can do from here: - Subscribe to The Forward using Google Reader - Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites
Re: [political-research] Re: [911TruthAction] 9/11 Video Fakery Prison Planet
http://google.com/search?q=jones+wq2rx Planehuggers ARE the most likely suspects for 911 -- The ones who were not killed were given positions in the coverup , like 911 Actor Perp Gary Welz, who was repurposed as a 911 Scholar in the aftermath. Fortunately he was confronted with his lies, and he recanted his planeseeing abilities. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=gary+welz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEuyGm6qSO4 the Big Takeover, part two - the 9/11 network scam 911 Flatline http://www.livevideo.com/video/4A2FDAFC04C14AECA5B6640F67E58F34/911-flatline-part-3.aspx Sean McBride wrote: The main problem with the no-planers: vicious fanaticism and intolerance. They have expended much more energy in attacking the most effective voices in the 9/11 Truth Movement than in going after the most likely suspects for 9/11. We don't know that they are a COINTELPRO-style op, but we do know that this is precisely what such an op would look like. 9/11 truth seekers should keep an open mind about competing theories concerning the who, how and why of 9/11 until all the facts are in, and treat opposing views with civility as part of the truth-seeking process. The no-planers have attempted to disrupt and destroy this amity at every turn. The HOW of 9/11 strikes me as a minor detail -- I am much more interested in the WHO, WHY and what's next on the dance card in the campaign to instigate World War IV. */John Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: At 10/31/2007 11:00 AM, you wrote: Most likely because the no planers are a hoax. Attempting to rationalize with them is impossible - it seems that when they have fixated on this issue they aren't able to listen to any reason or logic. The evidence that no planers are way out in left field is fairly overwhelming and anyone who looks at thier evidence - objectively - can see this. It seems that the rest of the Truth Movement is trying hard to either show the no-planers some reason - mostly they wont listen - and since thier lineo f thought does *_NOTHING but hurt _*the truth movement, I suspect this is why AJ isn;t putting up with the garbage. The whole theory does more harm than good. Even if it is correct (and I havent seen any evidence save fuzzy video to say it is) the no planers are doing more harm than good in trying to further the movement. Even f they are correct, the believablility factor is such that anyone who was on the edge of considering 9/11 as an inside job, immediatley is turned off by this far out theory. I will second Andy Long. My father was into conspiracy theories like the Money Masters. He was right about a great many things, as I realized after he passed away. But unfortunately, he had also picked up a couple poison pills. He used to try like anything to win me over to the alternative viewpoint. I'd listen politely, and he would make some yardage, but then he would mention the Nephelin, the shape-shifting reptilians. Well, a course in biology was part of my education, and creatures that can change their shape between human and reptile are just too big a stretch. My very strong reaction was to throw out everything else he had said and stick with my mainstream vanilla conformity. Decades of work out the window! TV fakery might not even be as big a stretch as Nephelins, but if you have tried as hard as I have to explain basic stuff like free fall speed and explosive demolition, and see people rationalize, change the subject, appeal to authority and every other fallacy in the book, instead of facing what's clear as a sunny day, so that you still can't make a bit of headway - well, let's put it this way: It's so hard to get a day in court with the brainwashed public, that you definitely want to present ONLY your best evidence when you get a chance to make your case. Any no-planers who are truely in this to help out and strengthen the movement can see this - its obvious - so those who continue despite this fact are then thrown in a catagory (correct or not) of disinfo artists - thier intent is viewed as trying to hurt the progression, not help. So, I imagine until the no-planers can step up with some evidence that passes critical thinking tests, they will continue to be viewed as the 'bad guys' of the truth movement. Right or wrong, its how I read the situation. - Original Message - From: Ray Antoky mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: [911TruthAction] 9/11 Video Fakery Prison Planet Friends, Just attempted to post a new article on Prison Planet broaching the
