Re: mozilla is backwards (as usual)

2007-10-27 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Nikolay Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm with Kurt, not changing the default behaviour for a cross-platform app.
 
 me too
 
  So would this do it, or is this document getting too long?
 
 README.OpenBSD should talk about OpenBSD specifics, this is just a
 general configuration issue that does not need to be documented in our
 files.

I agree on both points.

-- 
Christian naddy Weisgerber  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



mozilla is backwards (as usual)

2007-10-26 Thread Marc Espie
I was commenting yesterday that mozilla does things backwards (of course
they're SPECIAL). On every other application out there, if you hold control
and move the scroll wheel up, you get things bigger (I checked with opera,
konqueror, and yes, internet explorer as well). 

Mozilla does it the other way. I'd like this to be consistent. Anyone
objects to fixing that ?



Re: mozilla is backwards (as usual)

2007-10-26 Thread Marc Balmer

Marc Espie wrote:


I was commenting yesterday that mozilla does things backwards (of course
they're SPECIAL). On every other application out there, if you hold control
and move the scroll wheel up, you get things bigger (I checked with opera,
konqueror, and yes, internet explorer as well). 


Mozilla does it the other way. I'd like this to be consistent. Anyone
objects to fixing that ?


No strong objections, but it will probably confuse users that come from
other operating systems or users that are longtime users of mozilla
and are used to this behaviour.



Re: mozilla is backwards (as usual)

2007-10-26 Thread Kurt Miller
On Friday 26 October 2007 11:41:03 am Marc Espie wrote:
 I was commenting yesterday that mozilla does things backwards (of course
 they're SPECIAL). On every other application out there, if you hold control
 and move the scroll wheel up, you get things bigger (I checked with opera,
 konqueror, and yes, internet explorer as well).

 Mozilla does it the other way. I'd like this to be consistent. Anyone
 objects to fixing that ?

In general I've resisted attempts by developers to customize firefox to their 
individual preferences. Can this behavior be controlled via the about:config 
page? If so it would be much better to leave the default behavior and 
individuals can customize their preferences via about:config.



Re: mozilla is backwards (as usual)

2007-10-26 Thread Marc Balmer

Kurt Miller wrote:

On Friday 26 October 2007 11:41:03 am Marc Espie wrote:

I was commenting yesterday that mozilla does things backwards (of course
they're SPECIAL). On every other application out there, if you hold control
and move the scroll wheel up, you get things bigger (I checked with opera,
konqueror, and yes, internet explorer as well).

Mozilla does it the other way. I'd like this to be consistent. Anyone
objects to fixing that ?


In general I've resisted attempts by developers to customize firefox to their 
individual preferences. Can this behavior be controlled via the about:config 
page? If so it would be much better to leave the default behavior and 
individuals can customize their preferences via about:config.


setting mousewheel.withcontrolkey.numlines to -1 changes the behaviour.

moving the mousewheel up get's us a bigger font and
we no longer need to turn the mouse by 180 degrees ... ;)



Re: mozilla is backwards (as usual)

2007-10-26 Thread Ian Darwin

Marc Balmer wrote:

Kurt Miller wrote:

On Friday 26 October 2007 11:41:03 am Marc Espie wrote:

I was commenting yesterday that mozilla does things backwards (of course
they're SPECIAL). On every other application out there, if you hold 
control
and move the scroll wheel up, you get things bigger (I checked with 
opera,

konqueror, and yes, internet explorer as well).

Mozilla does it the other way. I'd like this to be consistent. Anyone
objects to fixing that ?

 ...

...
setting mousewheel.withcontrolkey.numlines to -1 changes the behaviour.

moving the mousewheel up gets us a bigger font and
we no longer need to turn the mouse by 180 degrees ... ;)


I'm with Kurt, not changing the default behaviour for a cross-platform app.

So would this do it, or is this document getting too long?

diff -u -p -r1.5 README.OpenBSD
--- files/README.OpenBSD12 Jun 2007 16:45:37 -  1.5
+++ files/README.OpenBSD26 Oct 2007 17:31:26 -
@@ -53,3 +53,13 @@ Double-click on any cipher to toggle its
 enable TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA, double-click on
 security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes128_sha until its boolean entry in the
 Value column changes to true.
+
+Mousewheel Zooming
+
+On most applications (Opera, Konqueror, OpenOffice, even Microsoft
+Internet Explorer), if you hold the Control key and move the scroll
+wheel up, things get bigger (zoom in).  Firefox does it the other
+way; Ctrl/WheelUp makes things smaller (zoom out). To make your
+Mozilla consistent with the other apps in your life, enter
+about:config in the URL text box, and change the value of
+mousewheel.withcontrolkey.numlines from 1 to -1
ian:36$



Re: mozilla is backwards (as usual)

2007-10-26 Thread Nikolay Sturm
* Ian Darwin [2007-10-26]:
 I'm with Kurt, not changing the default behaviour for a cross-platform app.

me too

 So would this do it, or is this document getting too long?

README.OpenBSD should talk about OpenBSD specifics, this is just a
general configuration issue that does not need to be documented in our
files.

Nikolay