pb central??

[DavidWedge]

Anybodyknow why PowerBook Central is down?

Thanks,
David Wegener

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choices / CD-RW drives

[John Pitt]

Thanks for asking that question about the iBook options, Eric - I'm 
just trying to sort my way through a similar decision. Here in 
Australia it seems to be cheaper to get an external CD-RW. The 
upgrade price to an internal (8x4x24) CD-RW is around A$600 (i.e. 
around US$300), but  for just under that I can get a La Cie 
USB/Firewire 16x10x40 drive with an 8Mb buffer and burn proof (buffer 
under-run protection) technology. How important is the buffer/ 'burn 
proof' feature? Is it less important for an internal drive than an 
external one? It seems to come down to a trade-off between the 
convenience of the internal drive vs the performance of the external 
one. Does anybody know about the performance of these drives?

And would I use the DVD drive for anything more than playing movies?

any thoughts or experiences would be much appreciated

John



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Re: problems connecting using SCSI Disk Mode

[Paul Nelson]

At 9:42 AM +0800 9/19/01, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i'll try something different tonight...
>i'll try hooking up the two powerbooks thru the 29 pins and cables connected
>to the
>Zip drive that has a terminator. the Zip is set to SCSI 6, the 5300 is SCSI
>2 and the
>3400 is SCSI 3.
>will let you know how it works...
>thanks for all the responses

This is not going to work.  Like someone else said, you can't do
SCSI disk mode without all 30 pins, and you can't connect two powerbooks
together like this.  Settle for connecting SCSI peripherals with your 29
pin adapter, because that is ALL it will do.
Paul



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Re: HD mounting bracket for 3400c [Velcro?]

[junbelen]

> I once put a drive in a 3400 and cut cardboard blocks the same size,
building
> 2 little "blocks" of cardboard to place behind it. There was a tiny bit of
> compression against the drive once it was in place, and I used tape to
hold
> it. The whole process took less time than this email, and it ran perfectly
> the 2yrs that I owned the laptop.  I did nearly the same with a 1400c once
> (the same one that survived my motorcycle wreck in my backpack in
> '96--getting rolled over 10+ times by me, without breaking)---I taped the
> drive to the drive sled with good shipping tape. Worked great--no
problems..
>


what kind of tape did you use?
will duct tape do ?
wouldn't the same concerns (re: heat) apply ?

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Re: problems connecting using SCSI Disk Mode

[junbelen]

> Welcome to the world of SCSI VOODOO!  First, many powerbooks need a
> terminator between them and the SCSI device.  I usually do this by using a
> Centronix pass through terminator between the external device, then
another
> terminator in the other Centronix jack.  This should do it.  Pass through
> terminators are the greatest!
> Paul
>


i'll try something different tonight...
i'll try hooking up the two powerbooks thru the 29 pins and cables connected
to the
Zip drive that has a terminator. the Zip is set to SCSI 6, the 5300 is SCSI
2 and the
3400 is SCSI 3.
will let you know how it works...
thanks for all the responses


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Re: HD mounting bracket for 3400c [Velcro?]

[DavidWedge]

You don't want Velcro--it doesn't hold worth a flip.  You need ot have 
something to compress the drive in place.

I once put a drive in a 3400 and cut cardboard blocks the same size, building 
2 little "blocks" of cardboard to place behind it. There was a tiny bit of 
compression against the drive once it was in place, and I used tape to hold 
it. The whole process took less time than this email, and it ran perfectly 
the 2yrs that I owned the laptop.  I did nearly the same with a 1400c once 
(the same one that survived my motorcycle wreck in my backpack in 
'96--getting rolled over 10+ times by me, without breaking)---I taped the 
drive to the drive sled with good shipping tape. Worked great--no problems..


In a message dated 9/18/01 7:34:22 AM, you wrote:

>I wouldn't try it unless I had extreme faith in the adhesive. It gets too hot
>in there for me to think anything short of epoxy to do such a job. I think
>that the sticky stuff that comes on Velcro doesn't hold worth a damn in
>adverse situations, YMMV. (and you 'd need a lot of velcro, not just a couple
>of wimpy strips.)
>jt
>

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Re: problems connecting using SCSI Disk Mode

[Paul Nelson]

At 7:26 PM -0400 9/17/01, Scott Mugan wrote:
>Hook up the adapter with the switch turned on. Fire up that powerbook. It
>should boot with the SCSI Disk mode screen. Plug it into the other machin
>and boot that machine. It should show up as a hard drive on the desktop.

Don't hot swap it this way.  Turn them both off.  Connect them.
Boot the laptop.  Make sure the # in the diamond is not in conflict with
anythinga in the chain.  Boot the desktop.
Paul



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Re: problems connecting using SCSI Disk Mode

[Paul Nelson]

At 8:04 AM +0800 9/18/01, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i have 2 29-pin adaptors with no switch and no LCD.
>The label says HD/SCSI adaptor
>like you, i always thought that it would be a cinch  :-(
>then i thought maybe i need a terminator or something...
>i changed the numbers on the SCSI mode control panel and expected to  see
>the changes
>when i turned it on but still no go..
>i'll try remy's suggestion and connect it thru DB25's
>will update you guys on what happens

Welcome to the world of SCSI VOODOO!  First, many powerbooks need a
terminator between them and the SCSI device.  I usually do this by using a
Centronix pass through terminator between the external device, then another
terminator in the other Centronix jack.  This should do it.  Pass through
terminators are the greatest!
Paul



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Re: problems connecting using SCSI Disk Mode

[MacinNW]

In a message dated 9/17/2001 4:26:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Hook up the adapter with the switch turned on. Fire up that powerbook.
>It
>should boot with the SCSI Disk mode screen. Plug it into the other machin
>and boot that machine. It should show up as a hard drive on the desktop.
>-Scott
>
>
>on 9/17/01 7:19 PM, Chris Loehr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I do know there is a certain order
>> you have to turn on the powerbooks.

DO NOT hot plug a SCSI device! All it takes is 1 in a 100 times and you fire 
something.

It has been a while since I have used SCSI mode but I believe that that is 
the correct order to turn them on. The SCSI symbol should come up before you 
turn on the secomd Mac.

I do not remember whether the 29 or 30 pin is the the correct one. But the 30 
pin with the switch does both, unfortunately the 30 from Apple have no switch.

Brent

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Re: HD mounting bracket for 3400c [Velcro?]

[Michael Dolberry]

>>I wouldn't try it unless I had extreme faith in the
adhesive. It gets 
too hot
in there for me to think anything short of epoxy to do
such a job. I 
think
that the sticky stuff that comes on Velcro doesn't
hold worth a damn in
adverse situations, YMMV. (and you 'd need a lot of
velcro, not just a 
couple
of wimpy strips.)
jt <<

One suggestion _might_ be the automotive brand of
Velco. I have not ever tried it.

But here in Texas, the velcro for my little TollTag
that goes on the window kept melting and sliding off.
I bought some of the automotive sort at MalWart and it
stayed in place through the hot Texas summer.

Mike Dolberry

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Re: HD mounting bracket for 3400c [Velcro?]

[Jane Thompson]

I wouldn't try it unless I had extreme faith in the adhesive. It gets too hot
in there for me to think anything short of epoxy to do such a job. I think
that the sticky stuff that comes on Velcro doesn't hold worth a damn in
adverse situations, YMMV. (and you 'd need a lot of velcro, not just a couple
of wimpy strips.)
jt

Spry/Fujita wrote:

>
>
> Since I own one of these machines, my question to him is, what do you think
> of using VELCRO on self adhesive backing as a solution?


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Re: HD mounting bracket for 3400c [Velcro?]

[Spry/Fujita]

David Wedgener in answering a question in regards to mounting different
drives in the PB 3400 wrote:

>The 3400 will take 9.5, 12.5, and 17mm drives. SNIP The problem is that
>the screw holes are in the wrong place, as the 3400 was designed around
>the earlier drive spec format. My recommendation is to drill the right
>holes in the right place SNIP [or] tape it in place SNIP [or] use peanuts
>(shippping peanuts) to keep it pressed in.

Since I own one of these machines, my question to him is, what do you think
of using VELCRO on self adhesive backing as a solution?

Cheers - Lorne

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