Re: [proletar] Egyptian Cleric Threatens Christian Copts with Genocide

[itemabu2]

Pelaku bom bunuh diri dan teroris2 Islam lainnya di Eropa itu kebanyakan dr
kaum terdidik dan bukan orang miskin. Tp mereka sama biadabnya dgn orang2
Islam di Mesir tsb.

Jadi Islam itulah yg ngajarin kebejadan.



On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Gabriella Rantau  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Well,  what can one say about a bunch of uncivilized cut-trhoats such
> these people? They don't belong to the civilized community any where in the
> world in this 21st century Anno Domine.
>
> Gabriella
>
> 
> From: itemabu2 
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013 4:49 AM
> Subject: [proletar] Egyptian Cleric Threatens Christian Copts with Genocide
>
>
> > “Respect yourselves and live with us and we will protect you… Why?…
> because Allah has forbidden me to be cruel to animals. I’m not trying to
> compare you to animals … but if I am not cruel to animals or plants, shall
> I be cruel to a soul created by Allah? You are an infidel in Allah’s sight
> — and it is for him to judge you. However, when you live in my country, it
> is forbidden for me to be unjust to you — *but that doesn’t mean we are
> equal. No, oh no*.”
>
>
> Ulama Islam ini membandingkan orang Kristen Copt di Mesir dgn binatang.
> Tentunya ini sesuai dgn ajaran islam. Dan ini juga berlaku unt orang
> Kristen di mana2, bukan cuma di Mesir aja, bukan?
>
> Jadi suryana dan Teddy itu jg akan dianggap selevel dgn binatang oleh
> ajaran Islam. Makanya suryana dan Teddy jadi anjing buduk piaraan orang
> Islam yg setia, rajin ngejilat pantat orang Islam.
>
>
> http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/egyptian-cleric-threatens-christian-copts-with-genocide/
>
> Egyptian Cleric Threatens Christian Copts with Genocide
> By  Raymond Ibrahim <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/author/raymond-ibrahim/
> >
>
> on December 28, 2012 in  From The Arab
> World<http://www.raymondibrahim.com/category/from-the-arab-world/>,
> Muslim Persecution of
> Christians<
> http://www.raymondibrahim.com/category/muslim-persecution-of-christians/>
>
> *Published by Gatestone
> Institute<
> http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3518/egypt-cleric-threatens-copts-genocide
> >
> *
>
> Islamic leaders continue to portray the popular protests against President
> Morsi and his recently passed Sharia-heavy constitution as products of
> Egypt’s Christians. Recently, Muslim Brotherhood leader Safwat Hegazy
> said<
> http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/egypts-christians-caught-in-the-middle/
> >in
>
> an open rally, as captured on video:
>
> A message to the church of Egypt, from an Egyptian Muslim: I tell the
> church — by Allah, and again, by Allah — if you conspire and unite with the
> remnants [opposition] to bring Morsi down, that will be another matter….
> our red line is the legitimacy of Dr. Muhammad Morsi. Whoever splashes
> water on it, we will splash blood on him.”
>
> More recently, Dr. Wagdi Ghoneim — who earlier praised Allah for the death
> of the late Coptic Pope Shenouda, cursing him to hell and
> damnation<http://www.raymondibrahim.com/11699/islamic-hate-for-a-dead-pope
> >
> on
> video — made another
> video<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBVukGwjkEs&feature=player_embedded>,
> entitled, “A Notice and Warning to the Crusaders in Egypt,” a reference to
> the nation’s Copts, which he began by saying, “You are playing with fire in
> Egypt, I swear, the first people to be burned by the fire are you [Copts].”
> The video was made in the context of the Tahrir protests against Morsi:
> Islamic leaders, such as Hegazy and Ghoneim, seek to portray the Copts as
> dominant elements in those protests; according to them, no real Muslim
> would participate. Ghoneim even went on to say that most of the people at
> the protests were Copts, “and we know you hid your [wrist] crosses by
> lowering your sleeves.”
>
> The heart of Ghoneim’s message was genocidal: “The day Egyptians — and I
> don’t even mean the Muslim Brotherhood or Salafis, regular Egyptians — feel
> that you are against them, you will be wiped off the face of the earth. I’m
> warning you now: do not play with fire!”
>
> Along with trying to incite Egypt’s Muslims against the Copts, and
> threatening them with annihilation, Ghoneim made other telling assertions,
> including:
>
>   - Addressing the Christians of Egypt as “Crusaders,” once again showing
>
>   Islam’s simplistic, black-and-white vision, which clumps all Christians —
>   of all nations, past and present, regardless of historical context and
>   denomination — as
> one<
> http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/the-collective-punishment-of-egypts

Re: [proletar] Egyptian Cleric Threatens Christian Copts with Genocide

[Gabriella Rantau]

Well,  what can one say about a bunch of uncivilized cut-trhoats such these 
people? They don't belong to the civilized community any where in the world in 
this 21st century Anno Domine.

Gabriella





 From: itemabu2 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013 4:49 AM
Subject: [proletar] Egyptian Cleric Threatens Christian Copts with Genocide
 
> “Respect yourselves and live with us and we will protect you… Why?…
because Allah has forbidden me to be cruel to animals. I’m not trying to
compare you to animals … but if I am not cruel to animals or plants, shall
I be cruel to a soul created by Allah? You are an infidel in Allah’s sight
— and it is for him to judge you. However, when you live in my country, it
is forbidden for me to be unjust to you — *but that doesn’t mean we are
equal. No, oh no*.”



Ulama Islam ini membandingkan orang Kristen Copt di Mesir dgn binatang.
Tentunya ini sesuai dgn ajaran islam. Dan ini juga berlaku unt orang
Kristen di mana2, bukan cuma di Mesir aja, bukan?

Jadi suryana dan Teddy itu jg akan dianggap selevel dgn binatang oleh
ajaran Islam. Makanya suryana dan Teddy jadi anjing buduk piaraan orang
Islam yg setia, rajin ngejilat pantat orang Islam.



http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/egyptian-cleric-threatens-christian-copts-with-genocide/


Egyptian Cleric Threatens Christian Copts with Genocide
By  Raymond Ibrahim <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/author/raymond-ibrahim/>
on December 28, 2012 in  From The Arab
World<http://www.raymondibrahim.com/category/from-the-arab-world/>,
Muslim Persecution of
Christians<http://www.raymondibrahim.com/category/muslim-persecution-of-christians/>

*Published by Gatestone
Institute<http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3518/egypt-cleric-threatens-copts-genocide>
*



Islamic leaders continue to portray the popular protests against President
Morsi and his recently passed Sharia-heavy constitution as products of
Egypt’s Christians. Recently, Muslim Brotherhood leader Safwat Hegazy
said<http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/egypts-christians-caught-in-the-middle/>in
an open rally, as captured on video:



A message to the church of Egypt, from an Egyptian Muslim: I tell the
church — by Allah, and again, by Allah — if you conspire and unite with the
remnants [opposition] to bring Morsi down, that will be another matter….
our red line is the legitimacy of Dr. Muhammad Morsi. Whoever splashes
water on it, we will splash blood on him.”



More recently, Dr. Wagdi Ghoneim — who earlier praised Allah for the death
of the late Coptic Pope Shenouda, cursing him to hell and
damnation<http://www.raymondibrahim.com/11699/islamic-hate-for-a-dead-pope>
on
video — made another
video<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBVukGwjkEs&feature=player_embedded>,
entitled, “A Notice and Warning to the Crusaders in Egypt,” a reference to
the nation’s Copts, which he began by saying, “You are playing with fire in
Egypt, I swear, the first people to be burned by the fire are you [Copts].”
The video was made in the context of the Tahrir protests against Morsi:
Islamic leaders, such as Hegazy and Ghoneim, seek to portray the Copts as
dominant elements in those protests; according to them, no real Muslim
would participate. Ghoneim even went on to say that most of the people at
the protests were Copts, “and we know you hid your [wrist] crosses by
lowering your sleeves.”



The heart of Ghoneim’s message was genocidal: “The day Egyptians — and I
don’t even mean the Muslim Brotherhood or Salafis, regular Egyptians — feel
that you are against them, you will be wiped off the face of the earth. I’m
warning you now: do not play with fire!”



Along with trying to incite Egypt’s Muslims against the Copts, and
threatening them with annihilation, Ghoneim made other telling assertions,
including:



   - Addressing the Christians of Egypt as “Crusaders,” once again showing
   Islam’s simplistic, black-and-white vision, which clumps all Christians —
   of all nations, past and present, regardless of historical context and
   denomination — as
one<http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/the-collective-punishment-of-egypts-christian-copts-2/>,
   in accordance with an Islamic tradition that states “All infidels are
   one 
religion<http://books.google.com/books?id=HWxwHXjWY6wC&pg=PA176&lpg=PA176&dq=%22all+unbelievers+are+one+religion%22&source=bl&ots=vK_UjeXMHu&sig=z05uMP2p4i_T11cA9XwRAZ5UTVs&hl=en&ei=lq64Tf6ZCevKiAK69O07&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22all%20unbelievers%20are%20one%20religion%22&f=false>
   .”



   - Comparing Christian Copts to animals: “Respect yourselves and live
   with us and we will protect you… Why?… because Allah has forbidden me to be
   cruel to animals. I’m not trying to compare you to animals … but if I am
   not c

Re: [proletar] Egyptian Cleric Threatens Christian Copts with Genocide

[Gabriella Rantau]

Well,  what can one say about a bunch of uncivilized cut-trhoats such these 
people? They don't belong to the civilized community any where in the world in 
this 21st century Anno Domine.

Gabriella





 From: itemabu2 
To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013 4:49 AM
Subject: [proletar] Egyptian Cleric Threatens Christian Copts with Genocide
 
> “Respect yourselves and live with us and we will protect you… Why?…
because Allah has forbidden me to be cruel to animals. I’m not trying to
compare you to animals … but if I am not cruel to animals or plants, shall
I be cruel to a soul created by Allah? You are an infidel in Allah’s sight
— and it is for him to judge you. However, when you live in my country, it
is forbidden for me to be unjust to you — *but that doesn’t mean we are
equal. No, oh no*.”



Ulama Islam ini membandingkan orang Kristen Copt di Mesir dgn binatang.
Tentunya ini sesuai dgn ajaran islam. Dan ini juga berlaku unt orang
Kristen di mana2, bukan cuma di Mesir aja, bukan?

Jadi suryana dan Teddy itu jg akan dianggap selevel dgn binatang oleh
ajaran Islam. Makanya suryana dan Teddy jadi anjing buduk piaraan orang
Islam yg setia, rajin ngejilat pantat orang Islam.



http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/egyptian-cleric-threatens-christian-copts-with-genocide/


Egyptian Cleric Threatens Christian Copts with Genocide
By  Raymond Ibrahim <http://www.raymondibrahim.com/author/raymond-ibrahim/>
on December 28, 2012 in  From The Arab
World<http://www.raymondibrahim.com/category/from-the-arab-world/>,
Muslim Persecution of
Christians<http://www.raymondibrahim.com/category/muslim-persecution-of-christians/>

*Published by Gatestone
Institute<http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3518/egypt-cleric-threatens-copts-genocide>
*



Islamic leaders continue to portray the popular protests against President
Morsi and his recently passed Sharia-heavy constitution as products of
Egypt’s Christians. Recently, Muslim Brotherhood leader Safwat Hegazy
said<http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/egypts-christians-caught-in-the-middle/>in
an open rally, as captured on video:



A message to the church of Egypt, from an Egyptian Muslim: I tell the
church — by Allah, and again, by Allah — if you conspire and unite with the
remnants [opposition] to bring Morsi down, that will be another matter….
our red line is the legitimacy of Dr. Muhammad Morsi. Whoever splashes
water on it, we will splash blood on him.”



More recently, Dr. Wagdi Ghoneim — who earlier praised Allah for the death
of the late Coptic Pope Shenouda, cursing him to hell and
damnation<http://www.raymondibrahim.com/11699/islamic-hate-for-a-dead-pope>
on
video — made another
video<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBVukGwjkEs&feature=player_embedded>,
entitled, “A Notice and Warning to the Crusaders in Egypt,” a reference to
the nation’s Copts, which he began by saying, “You are playing with fire in
Egypt, I swear, the first people to be burned by the fire are you [Copts].”
The video was made in the context of the Tahrir protests against Morsi:
Islamic leaders, such as Hegazy and Ghoneim, seek to portray the Copts as
dominant elements in those protests; according to them, no real Muslim
would participate. Ghoneim even went on to say that most of the people at
the protests were Copts, “and we know you hid your [wrist] crosses by
lowering your sleeves.”



The heart of Ghoneim’s message was genocidal: “The day Egyptians — and I
don’t even mean the Muslim Brotherhood or Salafis, regular Egyptians — feel
that you are against them, you will be wiped off the face of the earth. I’m
warning you now: do not play with fire!”



Along with trying to incite Egypt’s Muslims against the Copts, and
threatening them with annihilation, Ghoneim made other telling assertions,
including:



   - Addressing the Christians of Egypt as “Crusaders,” once again showing
   Islam’s simplistic, black-and-white vision, which clumps all Christians —
   of all nations, past and present, regardless of historical context and
   denomination — as
one<http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/the-collective-punishment-of-egypts-christian-copts-2/>,
   in accordance with an Islamic tradition that states “All infidels are
   one 
religion<http://books.google.com/books?id=HWxwHXjWY6wC&pg=PA176&lpg=PA176&dq=%22all+unbelievers+are+one+religion%22&source=bl&ots=vK_UjeXMHu&sig=z05uMP2p4i_T11cA9XwRAZ5UTVs&hl=en&ei=lq64Tf6ZCevKiAK69O07&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22all%20unbelievers%20are%20one%20religion%22&f=false>
   .”



   - Comparing Christian Copts to animals: “Respect yourselves and live
   with us and we will protect you… Why?… because Allah has forbidden me to be
   cruel to animals. I’m not trying to compare you to animals … but if I am
   not c

[proletar] Egyptian Cleric Threatens Christian Copts with Genocide

[itemabu2]

> “Respect yourselves and live with us and we will protect you… Why?…
because Allah has forbidden me to be cruel to animals. I’m not trying to
compare you to animals … but if I am not cruel to animals or plants, shall
I be cruel to a soul created by Allah? You are an infidel in Allah’s sight
— and it is for him to judge you. However, when you live in my country, it
is forbidden for me to be unjust to you — *but that doesn’t mean we are
equal. No, oh no*.”



Ulama Islam ini membandingkan orang Kristen Copt di Mesir dgn binatang.
Tentunya ini sesuai dgn ajaran islam. Dan ini juga berlaku unt orang
Kristen di mana2, bukan cuma di Mesir aja, bukan?

Jadi suryana dan Teddy itu jg akan dianggap selevel dgn binatang oleh
ajaran Islam. Makanya suryana dan Teddy jadi anjing buduk piaraan orang
Islam yg setia, rajin ngejilat pantat orang Islam.



http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/egyptian-cleric-threatens-christian-copts-with-genocide/


Egyptian Cleric Threatens Christian Copts with Genocide
By  Raymond Ibrahim 
on December 28, 2012 in  From The Arab
World,
Muslim Persecution of
Christians

*Published by Gatestone
Institute
*



Islamic leaders continue to portray the popular protests against President
Morsi and his recently passed Sharia-heavy constitution as products of
Egypt’s Christians. Recently, Muslim Brotherhood leader Safwat Hegazy
saidin
an open rally, as captured on video:



A message to the church of Egypt, from an Egyptian Muslim: I tell the
church — by Allah, and again, by Allah — if you conspire and unite with the
remnants [opposition] to bring Morsi down, that will be another matter….
our red line is the legitimacy of Dr. Muhammad Morsi. Whoever splashes
water on it, we will splash blood on him.”



More recently, Dr. Wagdi Ghoneim — who earlier praised Allah for the death
of the late Coptic Pope Shenouda, cursing him to hell and
damnation
on
video — made another
video,
entitled, “A Notice and Warning to the Crusaders in Egypt,” a reference to
the nation’s Copts, which he began by saying, “You are playing with fire in
Egypt, I swear, the first people to be burned by the fire are you [Copts].”
The video was made in the context of the Tahrir protests against Morsi:
Islamic leaders, such as Hegazy and Ghoneim, seek to portray the Copts as
dominant elements in those protests; according to them, no real Muslim
would participate. Ghoneim even went on to say that most of the people at
the protests were Copts, “and we know you hid your [wrist] crosses by
lowering your sleeves.”



The heart of Ghoneim’s message was genocidal: “The day Egyptians — and I
don’t even mean the Muslim Brotherhood or Salafis, regular Egyptians — feel
that you are against them, you will be wiped off the face of the earth. I’m
warning you now: do not play with fire!”



Along with trying to incite Egypt’s Muslims against the Copts, and
threatening them with annihilation, Ghoneim made other telling assertions,
including:



   - Addressing the Christians of Egypt as “Crusaders,” once again showing
   Islam’s simplistic, black-and-white vision, which clumps all Christians —
   of all nations, past and present, regardless of historical context and
   denomination — as
one,
   in accordance with an Islamic tradition that states “All infidels are
   one 
religion
   .”



   - Comparing Christian Copts to animals: “Respect yourselves and live
   with us and we will protect you… Why?… because Allah has forbidden me to be
   cruel to animals. I’m not trying to compare you to animals … but if I am
   not cruel to animals or plants, shall I be cruel to a soul created by
   Allah? You are an infidel in Allah’s sight — and it is for him to judge
   you. However, when you live in my country, it is forbidden for me to be
   unjust to you — *but that doesn’t mean we are equal. No, oh no*.”



   - Telling Copts: “I want to remind you that Egypt is a Muslim country….
   if you don’t like the Muslim Sharia, you have eight countries that have a
   Cross on their flag [in Europe], so go to them. However, if you want to
   stay here i