Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Status of prototype

2012-01-07 Thread James Hargreaves
I wish I had time to commit...

Apple, fancy sponsoring?!

On 6 Jan 2012, at 19:09, T.J. Crowder t...@crowdersoftware.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 On Jan 6, 12:49 pm, James Hargreaves james.hargrea...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I note that the prototype libraries (available on prototypejs.org)
 have not been updated since November 2010. Indeed, nothing much seems
 to have been updated on the site since around then.
 
 Is prototype still an active project?
 
 Thanks
 Jay
 
 (Caveat: I'm not a member of the Prototype team and don't speak for
 them. My view of the project is from the outside, and so may be
 flawed. I was a bit involved with the project briefly, doing a fair
 bit of missing documentation with an eye toward contributing on the
 code front as well, but stepped away from it for various reasons a
 couple of years ago.)
 
 Is prototype still an active project?
 
 It depends on your perspective. Unlike some other libraries, Prototype
 has no corporate sponsor; no one is paid to work on it. There's been
 no visible activity on the project since November 2010 (the last
 release, and last blog entry). The previous version was 14 months
 earlier (September 2009). There are 105 outstanding bug reports,
 including some that are quite straightforward to fix (such as
 Prototype overwriting any native implementation of `Array#filter` and
 such; issue #317).
 
 Most of the people who contributed to the project in the past are not
 currently doing so; as far as I'm aware, only Andrew Dupont (the
 project lead) is even nominally on the Prototype team at this point,
 and he's busy with other things. Here's what Andrew had to say the
 last time this came up, about three months ago:
 http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous/browse_thread/thread/7d434e109c23c306/547c3ed0303b4c78#547c3ed0303b4c78
 
 My take-away here is that the project is essentially inactive -- after
 all, Andrew can't be expected to do all the work himself! He has a job
 and a mortgage and a life like the rest of us. But it could be
 reactivated quite quickly, really, if someone with some significant
 time available, and the necessary credentials to make Andrew think it
 made sense, stepped up and offered to take the reins alongside him.
 Ideally, someone or ones working for a company or companies with a
 significant Prototype investment that want to see the library continue
 and are happy to pay their engineers to work on it a bit rather than
 paying them to replace it with something else -- e.g., companies
 giving back to the project with actual paid developer time. It
 wouldn't take much. The project needs one person with a reasonable
 time commitment per week (say, 4-8 hours/week) to co-chair with
 Andrew, and then if (say) five of the companies that use Prototype
 could offer two hours of a developer's time per week triaging bug
 reports, fixing bugs, etc., that would make a _massive_ difference to
 the project. Hopefully that new co-chair could also look at some of
 the longer-term stuff (like using element wrappers rather than DOM
 element augmentation, which I know was high on Andrew's to do list).
 
 Best,
 --
 T.J. Crowder
 Independent Software Engineer
 tj / crowder software / com
 www / crowder software / com
 
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[Proto-Scripty] Status of prototype

2012-01-06 Thread James Hargreaves
Hello,

I note that the prototype libraries (available on prototypejs.org)
have not been updated since November 2010. Indeed, nothing much seems
to have been updated on the site since around then.

Is prototype still an active project?

Thanks
Jay

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Status of prototype

2012-01-06 Thread James Hargreaves
Gutted! Prototype rocks!

On 6 Jan 2012, at 18:34, Phil Petree phil.pet...@gmail.com wrote:

 Last I heard was the developer said it was still active but on a catch as 
 catch can basis and then several other comments said it was dead.  I have 
 seen no forward movement so my plan became to continue using it as long as 
 its still working but all new code is developed with an eye towards moving to 
 another platform.
  
 
  
 On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 7:49 AM, James Hargreaves james.hargrea...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I note that the prototype libraries (available on prototypejs.org)
 have not been updated since November 2010. Indeed, nothing much seems
 to have been updated on the site since around then.
 
 Is prototype still an active project?
 
 Thanks
 Jay
 
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