Re: [Python-Dev] What it takes to change a single keyword.

2011-10-06 Thread Francisco Martin Brugue

On 10/06/2011 12:00 AM, Brett Cannon wrote:
 Please file a bug about the dead links so we can fix/remove them.


it's done in http://bugs.python.org/issue13117 (and I've also tried with 
a patch).


Cheers,

francis

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Re: [Python-Dev] What it takes to change a single keyword.

2011-10-05 Thread Francisco Martin Brugue

Just Info on the links:

http://docs.python.org/devguide/compiler.html provides info on how it
all hangs together).


Those:

[1] http://docs.python.org/devguide/compiler.html#id3Skip Montanaro’s 
Peephole Optimizer Paper 
(http://www.foretec.com/python/workshops/1998-11/proceedings/papers/montanaro/montanaro.html)


[Wang97] http://docs.python.org/devguide/compiler.html#id2Daniel C. 
Wang, Andrew W. Appel, Jeff L. Korn, and Chris S. Serra. The Zephyr 
Abstract Syntax Description Language. 
http://www.cs.princeton.edu/%7Edanwang/Papers/dsl97/dsl97.html In 
Proceedings of the Conference on Domain-Specific Languages, pp. 213–227, 
1997.



are a 404

Cheers,

francis




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Re: [Python-Dev] What it takes to change a single keyword.

2011-10-05 Thread Brett Cannon
Please file a bug about the dead links so we can fix/remove them.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 13:29, Francisco Martin Brugue 
francisco.mar...@web.de wrote:

 Just Info on the links:

  
 http://docs.python.org/**devguide/compiler.htmlhttp://docs.python.org/devguide/compiler.htmlprovides
  info on how it
 all hangs together).


 Those:

 [1] 
 http://docs.python.org/**devguide/compiler.html#id3http://docs.python.org/devguide/compiler.html#id3
 **Skip Montanaro’s Peephole Optimizer Paper (http://www.foretec.com/**
 python/workshops/1998-11/**proceedings/papers/montanaro/**montanaro.htmlhttp://www.foretec.com/python/workshops/1998-11/proceedings/papers/montanaro/montanaro.html
 )

 [Wang97] 
 http://docs.python.org/**devguide/compiler.html#id2http://docs.python.org/devguide/compiler.html#id2
 **Daniel C. Wang, Andrew W. Appel, Jeff L. Korn, and Chris S. Serra. The
 Zephyr Abstract Syntax Description Language. 
 http://www.cs.princeton.edu/%**7Edanwang/Papers/dsl97/dsl97.**htmlhttp://www.cs.princeton.edu/%7Edanwang/Papers/dsl97/dsl97.html
 In Proceedings of the Conference on Domain-Specific Languages, pp. 213–227,
 1997.


 are a 404

 Cheers,

 francis





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Re: [Python-Dev] What it takes to change a single keyword.

2011-10-02 Thread Yaşar Arabacı
Thanks to you both, I have made some progress on introducing my own keywords
to python interpreter. I think it is very kind of you to answer my question.
I think I can take it from here. Thanks again :)

02 Ekim 2011 05:42 tarihinde Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com yazdı:

 2011/10/1 Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de:
  First of all, I am sincerely sorry if this is wrong mailing list to ask
  this question. I checked out definitions of couple other mailing list,
  and this one seemed most suitable. Here is my question:
 
  In principle, python-list would be more appropriate, but this really
  is a border case. So welcome!
 
  Let's say I want to change a single keyword, let's say import keyword,
  to be spelled as something else, like it's translation to my language. I
  guess it would be more complicated than modifiying Grammar/Grammar, but
  I can't be sure which files should get edited.
 
  Hmm. I also think editing Grammar/Grammar should be sufficient. Try
  restricting yourself to ASCII keywords first; this just worked fine for
  me.

 For any changes where that isn't sufficient, then
 http://docs.python.org/devguide/grammar.html provides a helpful list
 of additional places to check (and
 http://docs.python.org/devguide/compiler.html provides info on how it
 all hangs together).

 However, rather than *changing* the keywords, it would likely be
 better to allow *alternate* keywords to avoid the problem Martin
 mentioned with existing Python code failing to run (including the
 entire standard library).

 Cheers,
 Nick.

 --
 Nick Coghlan   |   ncogh...@gmail.com   |   Brisbane, Australia




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Re: [Python-Dev] What it takes to change a single keyword.

2011-10-01 Thread Martin v. Löwis
 First of all, I am sincerely sorry if this is wrong mailing list to ask
 this question. I checked out definitions of couple other mailing list,
 and this one seemed most suitable. Here is my question:

In principle, python-list would be more appropriate, but this really
is a border case. So welcome!

 Let's say I want to change a single keyword, let's say import keyword,
 to be spelled as something else, like it's translation to my language. I
 guess it would be more complicated than modifiying Grammar/Grammar, but
 I can't be sure which files should get edited.

Hmm. I also think editing Grammar/Grammar should be sufficient. Try
restricting yourself to ASCII keywords first; this just worked fine for
me.

Of course, if you change a single keyword, none of the existing Python
code will work anymore. See for yourself by changing 'def' to 'fed' (say).

Regards,
Martin
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Re: [Python-Dev] What it takes to change a single keyword.

2011-10-01 Thread Nick Coghlan
2011/10/1 Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de:
 First of all, I am sincerely sorry if this is wrong mailing list to ask
 this question. I checked out definitions of couple other mailing list,
 and this one seemed most suitable. Here is my question:

 In principle, python-list would be more appropriate, but this really
 is a border case. So welcome!

 Let's say I want to change a single keyword, let's say import keyword,
 to be spelled as something else, like it's translation to my language. I
 guess it would be more complicated than modifiying Grammar/Grammar, but
 I can't be sure which files should get edited.

 Hmm. I also think editing Grammar/Grammar should be sufficient. Try
 restricting yourself to ASCII keywords first; this just worked fine for
 me.

For any changes where that isn't sufficient, then
http://docs.python.org/devguide/grammar.html provides a helpful list
of additional places to check (and
http://docs.python.org/devguide/compiler.html provides info on how it
all hangs together).

However, rather than *changing* the keywords, it would likely be
better to allow *alternate* keywords to avoid the problem Martin
mentioned with existing Python code failing to run (including the
entire standard library).

Cheers,
Nick.

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[Python-Dev] What it takes to change a single keyword.

2011-09-28 Thread Yaşar Arabacı
Hi,

First of all, I am sincerely sorry if this is wrong mailing list to ask this
question. I checked out definitions of couple other mailing list, and this
one seemed most suitable. Here is my question:

Let's say I want to change a single keyword, let's say import keyword, to be
spelled as something else, like it's translation to my language. I guess it
would be more complicated than modifiying Grammar/Grammar, but I can't be
sure which files should get edited.

I'am asking this, because, I am trying to figure out if I could translate
keyword's into another language, without affecting behaviour of language.


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