[Qemu-devel] [Bug 595117] Re: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option
@Stephane, did upstream ever accept your patch? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of qemu- devel-ml, which is subscribed to QEMU. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/595117 Title: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option Status in QEMU: Invalid Status in “qemu-kvm” package in Ubuntu: Expired Bug description: Binary package hint: qemu-kvm dpkg -l | grep qemu ii kvm 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu16+0.12.3+noroms+0ubuntu9dummy transitional pacakge from kvm to qemu- ii qemu 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 dummy transitional pacakge from qemu to qemu ii qemu-common 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 qemu common functionality (bios, documentati ii qemu-kvm 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 Full virtualization on i386 and amd64 hardwa ii qemu-kvm-extras 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 fast processor emulator binaries for non-x86 ii qemu-launcher1.7.4-1ubuntu2 GTK+ front-end to QEMU computer emulator ii qemuctl 0.2-2 controlling GUI for qemu lucid amd64. qemu-nbd is a lot slower when writing to disk than say nbd-server. It appears it is because by default the disk image it serves is open with O_SYNC. The --nocache option, unintuitively, makes matters a bit better because it causes the image to be open with O_DIRECT instead of O_SYNC. The qemu code allows an image to be open without any of those flags, but unfortunately qemu-nbd doesn't have the option to do that (qemu doesn't allow the image to be open with both O_SYNC and O_DIRECT though). The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. Attached is a patch that adds a --cache={off,none,writethrough,writeback} option to qemu-nbd. --cache=off is the same as --nocache (that is use O_DIRECT), writethrough is using O_SYNC and is still the default so this patch doesn't change the functionality. writeback is none of those flags, so is the addition of this patch. The patch also does an fsync upon "qemu-nbd -d" to make sure data is flushed to the image before removing the nbd. Consider this test scenario: dd bs=1M count=100 of=a < /dev/null qemu-nbd --cache= -c /dev/nbd0 a cp /dev/zero /dev/nbd0 time perl -MIO::Handle -e 'STDOUT->sync or die$!' 1<> /dev/nbd0 With cache=writethrough (the default), it takes over 10 minutes to write those 100MB worth of zeroes. Running a strace, we see the recvfrom and sentos delayed by each 1kb write(2)s to disk (10 to 30 ms per write). With cache=off, it takes about 30 seconds. With cache=writeback, it takes about 3 seconds, which is similar to the performance you get with nbd-server Note that the cp command runs instantly as the data is buffered by the client (the kernel), and not sent to qemu-nbd until the fsync(2) is called.
[Qemu-devel] [Bug 595117] Re: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option
For the record, there's more on that bug at http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.bugs.server/36923 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of qemu- devel-ml, which is subscribed to QEMU. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/595117 Title: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option Status in QEMU: Invalid Status in “qemu-kvm” package in Ubuntu: Expired Bug description: Binary package hint: qemu-kvm dpkg -l | grep qemu ii kvm 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu16+0.12.3+noroms+0ubuntu9dummy transitional pacakge from kvm to qemu- ii qemu 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 dummy transitional pacakge from qemu to qemu ii qemu-common 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 qemu common functionality (bios, documentati ii qemu-kvm 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 Full virtualization on i386 and amd64 hardwa ii qemu-kvm-extras 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 fast processor emulator binaries for non-x86 ii qemu-launcher1.7.4-1ubuntu2 GTK+ front-end to QEMU computer emulator ii qemuctl 0.2-2 controlling GUI for qemu lucid amd64. qemu-nbd is a lot slower when writing to disk than say nbd-server. It appears it is because by default the disk image it serves is open with O_SYNC. The --nocache option, unintuitively, makes matters a bit better because it causes the image to be open with O_DIRECT instead of O_SYNC. The qemu code allows an image to be open without any of those flags, but unfortunately qemu-nbd doesn't have the option to do that (qemu doesn't allow the image to be open with both O_SYNC and O_DIRECT though). The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. Attached is a patch that adds a --cache={off,none,writethrough,writeback} option to qemu-nbd. --cache=off is the same as --nocache (that is use O_DIRECT), writethrough is using O_SYNC and is still the default so this patch doesn't change the functionality. writeback is none of those flags, so is the addition of this patch. The patch also does an fsync upon "qemu-nbd -d" to make sure data is flushed to the image before removing the nbd. Consider this test scenario: dd bs=1M count=100 of=a < /dev/null qemu-nbd --cache= -c /dev/nbd0 a cp /dev/zero /dev/nbd0 time perl -MIO::Handle -e 'STDOUT->sync or die$!' 1<> /dev/nbd0 With cache=writethrough (the default), it takes over 10 minutes to write those 100MB worth of zeroes. Running a strace, we see the recvfrom and sentos delayed by each 1kb write(2)s to disk (10 to 30 ms per write). With cache=off, it takes about 30 seconds. With cache=writeback, it takes about 3 seconds, which is similar to the performance you get with nbd-server Note that the cp command runs instantly as the data is buffered by the client (the kernel), and not sent to qemu-nbd until the fsync(2) is called.
[Qemu-devel] [Bug 595117] Re: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option
[Expired for qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60 days.] ** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of qemu- devel-ml, which is subscribed to QEMU. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/595117 Title: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option Status in QEMU: Invalid Status in “qemu-kvm” package in Ubuntu: Expired Bug description: Binary package hint: qemu-kvm dpkg -l | grep qemu ii kvm 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu16+0.12.3+noroms+0ubuntu9dummy transitional pacakge from kvm to qemu- ii qemu 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 dummy transitional pacakge from qemu to qemu ii qemu-common 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 qemu common functionality (bios, documentati ii qemu-kvm 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 Full virtualization on i386 and amd64 hardwa ii qemu-kvm-extras 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 fast processor emulator binaries for non-x86 ii qemu-launcher1.7.4-1ubuntu2 GTK+ front-end to QEMU computer emulator ii qemuctl 0.2-2 controlling GUI for qemu lucid amd64. qemu-nbd is a lot slower when writing to disk than say nbd-server. It appears it is because by default the disk image it serves is open with O_SYNC. The --nocache option, unintuitively, makes matters a bit better because it causes the image to be open with O_DIRECT instead of O_SYNC. The qemu code allows an image to be open without any of those flags, but unfortunately qemu-nbd doesn't have the option to do that (qemu doesn't allow the image to be open with both O_SYNC and O_DIRECT though). The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. Attached is a patch that adds a --cache={off,none,writethrough,writeback} option to qemu-nbd. --cache=off is the same as --nocache (that is use O_DIRECT), writethrough is using O_SYNC and is still the default so this patch doesn't change the functionality. writeback is none of those flags, so is the addition of this patch. The patch also does an fsync upon "qemu-nbd -d" to make sure data is flushed to the image before removing the nbd. Consider this test scenario: dd bs=1M count=100 of=a < /dev/null qemu-nbd --cache= -c /dev/nbd0 a cp /dev/zero /dev/nbd0 time perl -MIO::Handle -e 'STDOUT->sync or die$!' 1<> /dev/nbd0 With cache=writethrough (the default), it takes over 10 minutes to write those 100MB worth of zeroes. Running a strace, we see the recvfrom and sentos delayed by each 1kb write(2)s to disk (10 to 30 ms per write). With cache=off, it takes about 30 seconds. With cache=writeback, it takes about 3 seconds, which is similar to the performance you get with nbd-server Note that the cp command runs instantly as the data is buffered by the client (the kernel), and not sent to qemu-nbd until the fsync(2) is called.
Re: [Qemu-devel] [Bug 595117] Re: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option
2010-06-24 00:16:03 -, Jamie Lokier: > Serge Hallyn wrote: > > The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible > > because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), > > (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for > > instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses > > O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be > > consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync > > on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC > > mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. > > Do the "client syncs" cause the nbd server to fsync or fdatasync the > file? The clients syncs cause the data to be sent to the server. The server then writes it to disk and each write blocks until the data is written physically on disk with O_SYNC. > > It appears it is because by default the disk image it serves is open > > with O_SYNC. The --nocache option, unintuitively, makes matters a > > bit better because it causes the image to be open with O_DIRECT > > instead of O_SYNC. > [...] > > --cache=off is the same as --nocache (that is use O_DIRECT), > > writethrough is using O_SYNC and is still the default so this patch > > doesn't change the functionality. writeback is none of those flags, > > so is the addition of this patch. The patch also does an fsync upon > > "qemu-nbd -d" to make sure data is flushed to the image before > > removing the nbd. > > I really wish qemu's options didn't give the false impression > "nocache" does less caching than "writethrough". O_DIRECT does > caching in the disk controller/hardware, while O_SYNC hopefully does > not, nowadays. [...] Note that I use the same "none", "writethrough", "writeback" as another utility shipped with qemu for consistency (see vl.c in the source), I don't mind about the words as long as the "writeback" functionality is available. Cheers, Stephane -- qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/595117 You received this bug notification because you are a member of qemu- devel-ml, which is subscribed to QEMU. Status in QEMU: Invalid Status in “qemu-kvm” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Binary package hint: qemu-kvm dpkg -l | grep qemu ii kvm 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu16+0.12.3+noroms+0ubuntu9dummy transitional pacakge from kvm to qemu- ii qemu 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 dummy transitional pacakge from qemu to qemu ii qemu-common 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 qemu common functionality (bios, documentati ii qemu-kvm 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 Full virtualization on i386 and amd64 hardwa ii qemu-kvm-extras 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 fast processor emulator binaries for non-x86 ii qemu-launcher1.7.4-1ubuntu2 GTK+ front-end to QEMU computer emulator ii qemuctl 0.2-2 controlling GUI for qemu lucid amd64. qemu-nbd is a lot slower when writing to disk than say nbd-server. It appears it is because by default the disk image it serves is open with O_SYNC. The --nocache option, unintuitively, makes matters a bit better because it causes the image to be open with O_DIRECT instead of O_SYNC. The qemu code allows an image to be open without any of those flags, but unfortunately qemu-nbd doesn't have the option to do that (qemu doesn't allow the image to be open with both O_SYNC and O_DIRECT though). The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. Attached is a patch that adds a --cache={off,none,writethrough,writeback} option to qemu-nbd. --cache=off is the same as --nocache (that is use O_DIRECT), writethrough is using O_SYNC and is still the default so this patch doesn't change the functionality. writeback is none of those flags, so is the addition of this patch. The patch also does an fsync upon "qemu-nbd -d" to make sure data is flushed to the image before removing the nbd. Consider this test scenario: dd bs=1M count=100 of=a < /dev/null qemu-nbd --cache= -c /dev/nbd0 a cp /dev/zero /dev/nbd0 time perl -MIO::Handle -e 'STDOUT->sync or die$!' 1<> /dev/nbd0 With cache=writethrough (the default), it takes over 10 minutes to write those 100MB worth of zeroes.
Re: [Qemu-devel] [Bug 595117] Re: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 01:16:03AM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Serge Hallyn wrote: > > The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible > > because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), > > (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for > > instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses > > O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be > > consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync > > on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC > > mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. > > Do the "client syncs" cause the nbd server to fsync or fdatasync the file? NBD does not have support for cache flushes. Any nbd server needs to use O_DSYNC-like semantics. > I really wish qemu's options didn't give the false impression > "nocache" does less caching than "writethrough". O_DIRECT does > caching in the disk controller/hardware, while O_SYNC hopefully does > not, nowadays. The current cache= options are misleading in many ways. I'll post a patchset soon to distangle the notion of using direct vs buffered I/O from exposing and implementing a guest visible volatile write cache. Exposing these improvements on the command linkes will have to wait for the new -blockdev option.
Re: [Qemu-devel] [Bug 595117] Re: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option
Serge Hallyn wrote: > The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible > because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), > (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for > instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses > O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be > consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync > on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC > mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. Do the "client syncs" cause the nbd server to fsync or fdatasync the file? > It appears it is because by default the disk image it serves is open > with O_SYNC. The --nocache option, unintuitively, makes matters a > bit better because it causes the image to be open with O_DIRECT > instead of O_SYNC. [...] > --cache=off is the same as --nocache (that is use O_DIRECT), > writethrough is using O_SYNC and is still the default so this patch > doesn't change the functionality. writeback is none of those flags, > so is the addition of this patch. The patch also does an fsync upon > "qemu-nbd -d" to make sure data is flushed to the image before > removing the nbd. I really wish qemu's options didn't give the false impression "nocache" does less caching than "writethrough". O_DIRECT does caching in the disk controller/hardware, while O_SYNC hopefully does not, nowadays. -- Jamie
[Qemu-devel] [Bug 595117] Re: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option
** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Incomplete -- qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/595117 You received this bug notification because you are a member of qemu- devel-ml, which is subscribed to QEMU. Status in QEMU: Invalid Status in “qemu-kvm” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Binary package hint: qemu-kvm dpkg -l | grep qemu ii kvm 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu16+0.12.3+noroms+0ubuntu9dummy transitional pacakge from kvm to qemu- ii qemu 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 dummy transitional pacakge from qemu to qemu ii qemu-common 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 qemu common functionality (bios, documentati ii qemu-kvm 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 Full virtualization on i386 and amd64 hardwa ii qemu-kvm-extras 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 fast processor emulator binaries for non-x86 ii qemu-launcher1.7.4-1ubuntu2 GTK+ front-end to QEMU computer emulator ii qemuctl 0.2-2 controlling GUI for qemu lucid amd64. qemu-nbd is a lot slower when writing to disk than say nbd-server. It appears it is because by default the disk image it serves is open with O_SYNC. The --nocache option, unintuitively, makes matters a bit better because it causes the image to be open with O_DIRECT instead of O_SYNC. The qemu code allows an image to be open without any of those flags, but unfortunately qemu-nbd doesn't have the option to do that (qemu doesn't allow the image to be open with both O_SYNC and O_DIRECT though). The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. Attached is a patch that adds a --cache={off,none,writethrough,writeback} option to qemu-nbd. --cache=off is the same as --nocache (that is use O_DIRECT), writethrough is using O_SYNC and is still the default so this patch doesn't change the functionality. writeback is none of those flags, so is the addition of this patch. The patch also does an fsync upon "qemu-nbd -d" to make sure data is flushed to the image before removing the nbd. Consider this test scenario: dd bs=1M count=100 of=a < /dev/null qemu-nbd --cache= -c /dev/nbd0 a cp /dev/zero /dev/nbd0 time perl -MIO::Handle -e 'STDOUT->sync or die$!' 1<> /dev/nbd0 With cache=writethrough (the default), it takes over 10 minutes to write those 100MB worth of zeroes. Running a strace, we see the recvfrom and sentos delayed by each 1kb write(2)s to disk (10 to 30 ms per write). With cache=off, it takes about 30 seconds. With cache=writeback, it takes about 3 seconds, which is similar to the performance you get with nbd-server Note that the cp command runs instantly as the data is buffered by the client (the kernel), and not sent to qemu-nbd until the fsync(2) is called.
[Qemu-devel] [Bug 595117] Re: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option
** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Confirmed -- qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/595117 You received this bug notification because you are a member of qemu- devel-ml, which is subscribed to QEMU. Status in QEMU: Invalid Status in “qemu-kvm” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: qemu-kvm dpkg -l | grep qemu ii kvm 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu16+0.12.3+noroms+0ubuntu9dummy transitional pacakge from kvm to qemu- ii qemu 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 dummy transitional pacakge from qemu to qemu ii qemu-common 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 qemu common functionality (bios, documentati ii qemu-kvm 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 Full virtualization on i386 and amd64 hardwa ii qemu-kvm-extras 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 fast processor emulator binaries for non-x86 ii qemu-launcher1.7.4-1ubuntu2 GTK+ front-end to QEMU computer emulator ii qemuctl 0.2-2 controlling GUI for qemu lucid amd64. qemu-nbd is a lot slower when writing to disk than say nbd-server. It appears it is because by default the disk image it serves is open with O_SYNC. The --nocache option, unintuitively, makes matters a bit better because it causes the image to be open with O_DIRECT instead of O_SYNC. The qemu code allows an image to be open without any of those flags, but unfortunately qemu-nbd doesn't have the option to do that (qemu doesn't allow the image to be open with both O_SYNC and O_DIRECT though). The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. Attached is a patch that adds a --cache={off,none,writethrough,writeback} option to qemu-nbd. --cache=off is the same as --nocache (that is use O_DIRECT), writethrough is using O_SYNC and is still the default so this patch doesn't change the functionality. writeback is none of those flags, so is the addition of this patch. The patch also does an fsync upon "qemu-nbd -d" to make sure data is flushed to the image before removing the nbd. Consider this test scenario: dd bs=1M count=100 of=a < /dev/null qemu-nbd --cache= -c /dev/nbd0 a cp /dev/zero /dev/nbd0 time perl -MIO::Handle -e 'STDOUT->sync or die$!' 1<> /dev/nbd0 With cache=writethrough (the default), it takes over 10 minutes to write those 100MB worth of zeroes. Running a strace, we see the recvfrom and sentos delayed by each 1kb write(2)s to disk (10 to 30 ms per write). With cache=off, it takes about 30 seconds. With cache=writeback, it takes about 3 seconds, which is similar to the performance you get with nbd-server Note that the cp command runs instantly as the data is buffered by the client (the kernel), and not sent to qemu-nbd until the fsync(2) is called.
[Qemu-devel] [Bug 595117] Re: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option
** Tags added: patch -- qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/595117 You received this bug notification because you are a member of qemu- devel-ml, which is subscribed to QEMU. Status in QEMU: Invalid Status in “qemu-kvm” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Binary package hint: qemu-kvm dpkg -l | grep qemu ii kvm 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu16+0.12.3+noroms+0ubuntu9dummy transitional pacakge from kvm to qemu- ii qemu 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 dummy transitional pacakge from qemu to qemu ii qemu-common 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 qemu common functionality (bios, documentati ii qemu-kvm 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 Full virtualization on i386 and amd64 hardwa ii qemu-kvm-extras 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 fast processor emulator binaries for non-x86 ii qemu-launcher1.7.4-1ubuntu2 GTK+ front-end to QEMU computer emulator ii qemuctl 0.2-2 controlling GUI for qemu lucid amd64. qemu-nbd is a lot slower when writing to disk than say nbd-server. It appears it is because by default the disk image it serves is open with O_SYNC. The --nocache option, unintuitively, makes matters a bit better because it causes the image to be open with O_DIRECT instead of O_SYNC. The qemu code allows an image to be open without any of those flags, but unfortunately qemu-nbd doesn't have the option to do that (qemu doesn't allow the image to be open with both O_SYNC and O_DIRECT though). The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. Attached is a patch that adds a --cache={off,none,writethrough,writeback} option to qemu-nbd. --cache=off is the same as --nocache (that is use O_DIRECT), writethrough is using O_SYNC and is still the default so this patch doesn't change the functionality. writeback is none of those flags, so is the addition of this patch. The patch also does an fsync upon "qemu-nbd -d" to make sure data is flushed to the image before removing the nbd. Consider this test scenario: dd bs=1M count=100 of=a < /dev/null qemu-nbd --cache= -c /dev/nbd0 a cp /dev/zero /dev/nbd0 time perl -MIO::Handle -e 'STDOUT->sync or die$!' 1<> /dev/nbd0 With cache=writethrough (the default), it takes over 10 minutes to write those 100MB worth of zeroes. Running a strace, we see the recvfrom and sentos delayed by each 1kb write(2)s to disk (10 to 30 ms per write). With cache=off, it takes about 30 seconds. With cache=writeback, it takes about 3 seconds, which is similar to the performance you get with nbd-server Note that the cp command runs instantly as the data is buffered by the client (the kernel), and not sent to qemu-nbd until the fsync(2) is called.
[Qemu-devel] [Bug 595117] Re: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option
Stephane- Could you please send that patch to the qemu-devel@ mailing list? Thanks! -- qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/595117 You received this bug notification because you are a member of qemu- devel-ml, which is subscribed to QEMU. Status in QEMU: Invalid Status in “qemu-kvm” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Binary package hint: qemu-kvm dpkg -l | grep qemu ii kvm 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu16+0.12.3+noroms+0ubuntu9dummy transitional pacakge from kvm to qemu- ii qemu 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 dummy transitional pacakge from qemu to qemu ii qemu-common 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 qemu common functionality (bios, documentati ii qemu-kvm 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 Full virtualization on i386 and amd64 hardwa ii qemu-kvm-extras 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 fast processor emulator binaries for non-x86 ii qemu-launcher1.7.4-1ubuntu2 GTK+ front-end to QEMU computer emulator ii qemuctl 0.2-2 controlling GUI for qemu lucid amd64. qemu-nbd is a lot slower when writing to disk than say nbd-server. It appears it is because by default the disk image it serves is open with O_SYNC. The --nocache option, unintuitively, makes matters a bit better because it causes the image to be open with O_DIRECT instead of O_SYNC. The qemu code allows an image to be open without any of those flags, but unfortunately qemu-nbd doesn't have the option to do that (qemu doesn't allow the image to be open with both O_SYNC and O_DIRECT though). The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. Attached is a patch that adds a --cache={off,none,writethrough,writeback} option to qemu-nbd. --cache=off is the same as --nocache (that is use O_DIRECT), writethrough is using O_SYNC and is still the default so this patch doesn't change the functionality. writeback is none of those flags, so is the addition of this patch. The patch also does an fsync upon "qemu-nbd -d" to make sure data is flushed to the image before removing the nbd. Consider this test scenario: dd bs=1M count=100 of=a < /dev/null qemu-nbd --cache= -c /dev/nbd0 a cp /dev/zero /dev/nbd0 time perl -MIO::Handle -e 'STDOUT->sync or die$!' 1<> /dev/nbd0 With cache=writethrough (the default), it takes over 10 minutes to write those 100MB worth of zeroes. Running a strace, we see the recvfrom and sentos delayed by each 1kb write(2)s to disk (10 to 30 ms per write). With cache=off, it takes about 30 seconds. With cache=writeback, it takes about 3 seconds, which is similar to the performance you get with nbd-server Note that the cp command runs instantly as the data is buffered by the client (the kernel), and not sent to qemu-nbd until the fsync(2) is called.
[Qemu-devel] [Bug 595117] Re: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option
Patches should go to qemu-devel, not bug reports. ** Changed in: qemu Status: New => Invalid -- qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/595117 You received this bug notification because you are a member of qemu- devel-ml, which is subscribed to QEMU. Status in QEMU: Invalid Status in “qemu-kvm” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Binary package hint: qemu-kvm dpkg -l | grep qemu ii kvm 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu16+0.12.3+noroms+0ubuntu9dummy transitional pacakge from kvm to qemu- ii qemu 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 dummy transitional pacakge from qemu to qemu ii qemu-common 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 qemu common functionality (bios, documentati ii qemu-kvm 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 Full virtualization on i386 and amd64 hardwa ii qemu-kvm-extras 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 fast processor emulator binaries for non-x86 ii qemu-launcher1.7.4-1ubuntu2 GTK+ front-end to QEMU computer emulator ii qemuctl 0.2-2 controlling GUI for qemu lucid amd64. qemu-nbd is a lot slower when writing to disk than say nbd-server. It appears it is because by default the disk image it serves is open with O_SYNC. The --nocache option, unintuitively, makes matters a bit better because it causes the image to be open with O_DIRECT instead of O_SYNC. The qemu code allows an image to be open without any of those flags, but unfortunately qemu-nbd doesn't have the option to do that (qemu doesn't allow the image to be open with both O_SYNC and O_DIRECT though). The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. Attached is a patch that adds a --cache={off,none,writethrough,writeback} option to qemu-nbd. --cache=off is the same as --nocache (that is use O_DIRECT), writethrough is using O_SYNC and is still the default so this patch doesn't change the functionality. writeback is none of those flags, so is the addition of this patch. The patch also does an fsync upon "qemu-nbd -d" to make sure data is flushed to the image before removing the nbd. Consider this test scenario: dd bs=1M count=100 of=a < /dev/null qemu-nbd --cache= -c /dev/nbd0 a cp /dev/zero /dev/nbd0 time perl -MIO::Handle -e 'STDOUT->sync or die$!' 1<> /dev/nbd0 With cache=writethrough (the default), it takes over 10 minutes to write those 100MB worth of zeroes. Running a strace, we see the recvfrom and sentos delayed by each 1kb write(2)s to disk (10 to 30 ms per write). With cache=off, it takes about 30 seconds. With cache=writeback, it takes about 3 seconds, which is similar to the performance you get with nbd-server Note that the cp command runs instantly as the data is buffered by the client (the kernel), and not sent to qemu-nbd until the fsync(2) is called.
[Qemu-devel] [Bug 595117] Re: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option
Noone has confirmed, but have passed along to upstream. If upstream takes this patch then we will likely pull it into our patchset. ** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Incomplete -- qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/595117 You received this bug notification because you are a member of qemu- devel-ml, which is subscribed to QEMU. Status in QEMU: New Status in “qemu-kvm” package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: Binary package hint: qemu-kvm dpkg -l | grep qemu ii kvm 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu16+0.12.3+noroms+0ubuntu9dummy transitional pacakge from kvm to qemu- ii qemu 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 dummy transitional pacakge from qemu to qemu ii qemu-common 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 qemu common functionality (bios, documentati ii qemu-kvm 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 Full virtualization on i386 and amd64 hardwa ii qemu-kvm-extras 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 fast processor emulator binaries for non-x86 ii qemu-launcher1.7.4-1ubuntu2 GTK+ front-end to QEMU computer emulator ii qemuctl 0.2-2 controlling GUI for qemu lucid amd64. qemu-nbd is a lot slower when writing to disk than say nbd-server. It appears it is because by default the disk image it serves is open with O_SYNC. The --nocache option, unintuitively, makes matters a bit better because it causes the image to be open with O_DIRECT instead of O_SYNC. The qemu code allows an image to be open without any of those flags, but unfortunately qemu-nbd doesn't have the option to do that (qemu doesn't allow the image to be open with both O_SYNC and O_DIRECT though). The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. Attached is a patch that adds a --cache={off,none,writethrough,writeback} option to qemu-nbd. --cache=off is the same as --nocache (that is use O_DIRECT), writethrough is using O_SYNC and is still the default so this patch doesn't change the functionality. writeback is none of those flags, so is the addition of this patch. The patch also does an fsync upon "qemu-nbd -d" to make sure data is flushed to the image before removing the nbd. Consider this test scenario: dd bs=1M count=100 of=a < /dev/null qemu-nbd --cache= -c /dev/nbd0 a cp /dev/zero /dev/nbd0 time perl -MIO::Handle -e 'STDOUT->sync or die$!' 1<> /dev/nbd0 With cache=writethrough (the default), it takes over 10 minutes to write those 100MB worth of zeroes. Running a strace, we see the recvfrom and sentos delayed by each 1kb write(2)s to disk (10 to 30 ms per write). With cache=off, it takes about 30 seconds. With cache=writeback, it takes about 3 seconds, which is similar to the performance you get with nbd-server Note that the cp command runs instantly as the data is buffered by the client (the kernel), and not sent to qemu-nbd until the fsync(2) is called.
[Qemu-devel] [Bug 595117] Re: qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option
** Also affects: qemu Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- qemu-nbd slow and missing "writeback" cache option https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/595117 You received this bug notification because you are a member of qemu- devel-ml, which is subscribed to QEMU. Status in QEMU: New Status in “qemu-kvm” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: qemu-kvm dpkg -l | grep qemu ii kvm 1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu16+0.12.3+noroms+0ubuntu9dummy transitional pacakge from kvm to qemu- ii qemu 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 dummy transitional pacakge from qemu to qemu ii qemu-common 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 qemu common functionality (bios, documentati ii qemu-kvm 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 Full virtualization on i386 and amd64 hardwa ii qemu-kvm-extras 0.12.3+noroms-0ubuntu9 fast processor emulator binaries for non-x86 ii qemu-launcher1.7.4-1ubuntu2 GTK+ front-end to QEMU computer emulator ii qemuctl 0.2-2 controlling GUI for qemu lucid amd64. qemu-nbd is a lot slower when writing to disk than say nbd-server. It appears it is because by default the disk image it serves is open with O_SYNC. The --nocache option, unintuitively, makes matters a bit better because it causes the image to be open with O_DIRECT instead of O_SYNC. The qemu code allows an image to be open without any of those flags, but unfortunately qemu-nbd doesn't have the option to do that (qemu doesn't allow the image to be open with both O_SYNC and O_DIRECT though). The default of qemu-img (of using O_SYNC) is not very sensible because anyway, the client (the kernel) uses caches (write-back), (and "qemu-nbd -d" doesn't flush those by the way). So if for instance qemu-nbd is killed, regardless of whether qemu-nbd uses O_SYNC, O_DIRECT or not, the data in the image will not be consistent anyway, unless "syncs" are done by the client (like fsync on the nbd device or sync mount option), and with qemu-nbd's O_SYNC mode, those "sync"s will be extremely slow. Attached is a patch that adds a --cache={off,none,writethrough,writeback} option to qemu-nbd. --cache=off is the same as --nocache (that is use O_DIRECT), writethrough is using O_SYNC and is still the default so this patch doesn't change the functionality. writeback is none of those flags, so is the addition of this patch. The patch also does an fsync upon "qemu-nbd -d" to make sure data is flushed to the image before removing the nbd. Consider this test scenario: dd bs=1M count=100 of=a < /dev/null qemu-nbd --cache= -c /dev/nbd0 a cp /dev/zero /dev/nbd0 time perl -MIO::Handle -e 'STDOUT->sync or die$!' 1<> /dev/nbd0 With cache=writethrough (the default), it takes over 10 minutes to write those 100MB worth of zeroes. Running a strace, we see the recvfrom and sentos delayed by each 1kb write(2)s to disk (10 to 30 ms per write). With cache=off, it takes about 30 seconds. With cache=writeback, it takes about 3 seconds, which is similar to the performance you get with nbd-server Note that the cp command runs instantly as the data is buffered by the client (the kernel), and not sent to qemu-nbd until the fsync(2) is called.