Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS.org new website now online

[Stefano Campus via QGIS-Developer]

Hi Tim,
thank you for information and your work.

please can you explain how content consistency will be ensured between the
English original of qgis.org and the forks of local communities who want to
translate the content not only of the web pages but also of the
documentation etc.?

currently, thanks to transifex, new English contents are uploaded to
transifex and after translation operations would be flipped to qgis.org
translated pages e.g. qgis.org/it for Italian.

how do we do that now?

thank you very much

stefano



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> ? The new website is now online! Visit https://qgis.org to try it out. We
> have spent a *lot* of time trying to QA things but undoubtedly there will
> still be some *gremlins* in the works. Please file issues here
>  if you find things that are
> *substantive* issues (i.e. a broken link, spelling error) and not 'reviews'
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> improvements, we much prefer that they be accompanied by *PR's* which
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> issue queue short.
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> ? *We would love to get some more representative images/screenshots for
> the front and top level pages, so PR's addressing those will be treated
> with priority.*
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> ??Thank you so much to the Kontur team (Aliaksandra, Andrei, Nadzeya,
> Tigran, Darafei and more!), the members of the website working group that
> we formed, Anniina, Lova, Richard, J?rgen, Anita, Andreas. Amy, Thiasha,
> Jeremy Prior, and the many others (apologies for not naming you
> individually) who contributed ideas, work, and support in the process.
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> ? Please note that your browser / ISP / DNS server and similar may be
> caching qgis.org and the DNS entries related to it. Before reporting an
> issue:
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> 1. Try an anonymous browser to see if things work normally there
> 2. Try clearing your cache in your browser
> 3. Potentially you may need to wait a little for DNS propagation to
> complete
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> ?? Please note that we made the decision NOT to translate the site into
> languages other than english. If you are an official country user group, we
> encourage you to:
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> 1. Advise the PSC of your intention to host a localized copy of the site
> 2. Fork the web site repo https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Hugo
> 3. Translate the content pages on your fork
> 4. Host your fork on your country domain e.g. qgis.id
> 5. Advise us when your fork is online, we will cross link to your site from
> QGIS.org
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[QGIS-Developer] [issue] MapSwipe Tool plugin

[Stefano Campus via QGIS-Developer]

I would like to report that the MapSwipe Tool plugin, which allows you to
split the View in two (horizontally or vertically) to display two themes,
has not been working for some time.
The error has been corrected by an user but the developer has not yet taken
over the change to integrate it into the code (after months).
there is therefore a fork that has corrected the error.

shouldn't the original be declared as deprecated?

Ciao

stefano


Home page plugin
https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/mapswipetool_plugin/#plugin-details

Issue
https://github.com/lmotta/mapswipetool_plugin/issues/18

Fork of the working plugin
https://github.com/Heryx/mapswipetool_plugin



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Re: [QGIS-Developer] (no subject)

[Stefano Campus]

thank you for your quick reply.

the previous tag strings are untranslated, as you can see in [1],
so do you suggest to translate also  the old tags?
in this way, do the function/modules of Processing and Expression are
searchable both in english and italian?

please sorry for these questions maybe trivial...

s.


Il giorno gio 10 feb 2022 alle ore 13:03 DelazJ  ha
scritto:

> Hi stefano, all
>
> These are indeed search tags for expression functions implemented in [0]
> and pushed as single words to be translated in Transifex.
> I wonder if it's better for translators to have single (somehow)
> uncontextualised string to translate [1], or whether we should display the
> list of words to translate, as done for Processing tags.
>
> [0] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/46743
> [1] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33197#pullrequestreview-325964668
>
> Regards,
> Harrissou
>
> Le jeu. 10 févr. 2022 à 12:36, Stefano Campus  a
> écrit :
>
>> ciao,
>> a few days ago about 600 new strings were added to Transifex to be
>> translated.
>> Most of these strings are a single word whose context is: [1]
>> Context: QgsExpression
>> Resource: qgis-application
>>
>> As an Italian translation group we can't figure out exactly what they
>> are; they look like search tags.
>> Do you think they should be translated or not?
>>
>> [1] https://ibb.co/0DyLSkv
>>
>> thank you
>>
>> s.
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[QGIS-Developer] (no subject)

[Stefano Campus]

ciao,
a few days ago about 600 new strings were added to Transifex to be
translated.
Most of these strings are a single word whose context is: [1]
Context: QgsExpression
Resource: qgis-application

As an Italian translation group we can't figure out exactly what they are;
they look like search tags.
Do you think they should be translated or not?

[1] https://ibb.co/0DyLSkv

thank you

s.
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] CMYK implementation in QGIS?

[Stefano Campus]

ciao,
do you know if there are any plans for Qt libraries to support the output
layout in CMYK?

thank you in advance

s.



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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-tr] Concerns about translations and QGIS overall credibility

[Stefano Campus]

ciao to everyone, let me show you the Italian situation.

1) the use of QGIS in Italy, especially in the Public Administration,
continues to spread more and more.
When I say "Public Administration" I do not mean only the Ministries or
other big public organizations, but above all small Municipalities also
with a few hundred inhabitants, whose technicians begin to see the
possibility of using for many subjects no longer the CAD but (Q)GIS.
During the Central Italy 2016 Earthquake, we installed QGIS in more than
200 Municipalities, in order to manage the complex phase of post-earthquake
surveys of private buildings.
Well, I assure you that if QGIS had been only in English, the chances that
the technicians and volunteers would use QGIS, would have been very low.
The fact that the default language in QGIS is the local one is a
consolation and safety for the user.

2) matteo ghetta, paolo cavallini and I are the coordinators of the Italian
translation team. There are more than 60 people registered in Transifex,
but there are very few active ones.
The work flow is this: anyone can translate, but only one is the reviewer
(me). This helps to have a unique (or almost) translation style and allows
revisions and corrections on strings to spread immediately over all the
other similar ones in the various versions of QGIS available.
This is the reason why I don't like having strings of versions 3.4 and 3.8
in Transifex: I work on "All resources" and therefore when I make massive
corrections I have errors due to the presence of these strings that are no
longer editable.

3) In Italy the interest in the translation of QGIS (GUI, site and
documentation) is high; As part of summer webinars organized by the
GFOSS.it association, on July 9 I will hold a short webinar on tricks and
good practices for translating in Transifex and about twenty people have
already registered.

In conclusion, I believe that although there are sometimes obvious errors
in the translations that make the string incomprehensible, it is necessary
to persevere and continue to improve and push users to report errors or
omissions.
The choice of a single reviewer greatly limits the possibility of errors,
even if the various evolutions of the resources of QGIS in Transifex has
led to having thousands of strings that had already been revised to be
again unreviewed, frustrating the work of months.
But that's okay; Transifex is exceptional even if it is hateful not to have
the context in which the string is used.
And please don't make English the default language.

thank you and forgive my Italianglish: when I translate QGIS from English
to Italian I am more accurate :-D

s.

Il giorno mar 30 giu 2020 alle ore 00:20 Alexandre Neto <
senhor.n...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Transifex Webtranslation page for QGIS is on
> https://www.transifex.com/qgis/
>
> Hi,
>
> I have been looking into the Portuguese translations of the GUI and the
> Docs, and I got really scared. Many translations were done completely out
> of context, making it very hard to read or understand what was
> originally written in English, even if you are familiar with the
> terminology.
>
> I don't know how other languages are going, and if you face the same
> problems. In Portugal, we have a very small community. Because of that,
> translation efforts are not really coordinated or even reviewed in most
> cases.
>
> Now, the biggest problem is that I think this deeply affects QGIS
> credibility. When you install QGIS, it defaults to the machine's locale,
> and many users don't even know how to change it (seen it in several
> courses). This means that many people will only know the badly translated
> version of QGIS in their native language... and It looks bad.
>
> In training, people sometimes make fun of the translations. I always
> enforce the idea that the translation work is fully done by volunteers in
> their spare time, but I am afraid if for some people it just looks like the
> full application was done by volunteers and hobbyists.
>
> So, I wanted to know if more of you face the same issues. If so, would it
> be wiser to default the language always to English and let the user find
> out how to change to his language if he wants to?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alexandre Neto
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> PS: Sorry for the cross-posting
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Translation of QGIS ltr and QGIS master

[Stefano Campus]

What if a string is present just only in a version?

Il gio 27 giu 2019, 19:51 Alexandre Neto  ha scritto:

> Hi,
>
> Won't translating master be a moving target?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alex
>
> A qui, 27/06/2019, 15:21, Stefano Campus  escreveu:
>
>> thank you for your explication.
>> sometimes it happens that a string is first translated and then later
>> corrected.
>> it is clear that now the correction of a string present in the three
>> branches must propagate both towards the ltr and towards the master.
>> and at the moment this must be done by hand.
>>
>> now it's all a bit more complicated, since you have to keep the three
>> branches under control, but at least you can do everything in transifex.
>> I believe that if someone were able to design the control between the
>> versions it would be something that really deserves to be funded directly
>> by
>> qgis.org.
>>
>> thank you all for help and now it's time to translate :-)
>> ciao!
>> s.
>>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Translation of QGIS ltr and QGIS master

[Stefano Campus]

thank you for your explication.
sometimes it happens that a string is first translated and then later
corrected.
it is clear that now the correction of a string present in the three
branches must propagate both towards the ltr and towards the master.
and at the moment this must be done by hand.

now it's all a bit more complicated, since you have to keep the three
branches under control, but at least you can do everything in transifex.
I believe that if someone were able to design the control between the
versions it would be something that really deserves to be funded directly by
qgis.org.

thank you all for help and now it's time to translate :-)
ciao!
s.



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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Translation of QGIS ltr and QGIS master

[Stefano Campus]

hi, just a question.
what is the difference between "qgis-application" and
"release-3-8-qgis-application" in transifex?
they a different number of total strings and I don't know which branch I
have to translate.
thank you

s.

 




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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Translation of QGIS ltr and QGIS master

[Stefano Campus]

wow, what a news!
thank you for your mail.

and thank you jurgen!

s.



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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Translation of QGIS ltr and QGIS master

[Stefano Campus]

ciao,
sorry if I still propose to your attention the problem of updating the
translation of the LTR version.
starting from [1] I didn't understand how to work.
Is it possible to have a very brief guide on the operations to do, as
proposed by delazj in [2]?

thank you so much
s.
[1] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/9331
[2] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/issues/592



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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-tr] Missing translated strings in localized master

[Stefano Campus]

I see similar problems problems in Italian version of QGIS 2.18.x.
There are some strings that appear in english but they are not present in
original .qm file.
these strings are not translated in other languages, for example in Spanish.

Some of these strings are (thx Totò Fiandaca for the picture):

http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/file/t378656/traduzione.png

I think that Transifex should be contain all version of QGIS that are still
supported and not only the Master version.
For example, during this period of coexistence between the QGIS 2.18.x LTR
version and the 3.x versions, the two transifex projects should remain
active for the master and for the 2.18 that is still released with updates.

ciao

s.




Il giorno mer 19 set 2018 alle ore 10:29 DelazJ  ha
scritto:

> Transifex Webtranslation page for QGIS is on
> https://www.transifex.com/qgis/
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been reported some missing translations we have in the French
> interface of QGIS: there are some strings that are translated in Transifex
> (for weeks, months now) that do not appear in localized QGIS.
> See for example the attached screenshots where some strings are still in
> English though no untranslated occurrences is available on Transifex, as
> shown with the "Print Layout..." example.
>
> Are these issues only french ones? And could that be fixed to improve our
> translators experience and expect a full translation of the next LTR,
> please?
>
> Thanks.
> Regards,
> Harrissou
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