Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Am 06.08.2015 um 20:08 schrieb Springfield Harrison: Hello All, Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an existing projected layer? The plugins Vector Bender and vectorgeoref should do what you want. You have to enable experimental plugins to see them. And maybe the Affine Transformations plugin also works for you. HTH, André Joost ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hi, There is one sure way to do this, Use your CAD Package to align the property survey to the correct CRS, using two common points. What CAD Package are you using, if you have AutoCAD, then you can use the align command to preform this, I assume that other packages have similar commands! There are vector align plugin's available, but I find the above method simplest, There is a CAD plugin being proposed to help with this process in the future, but it is unfortunately not yet available. I hope this helps, If I can be of any further help, let me know. Regards, Richard. On 06/08/2015 19:08, Springfield Harrison wrote: Hello All, Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an existing projected layer? I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have only local coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for some corners. Thank you . . . . Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison Samsung Tab 4 ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user OPW - Ag féachaint don am atá le teacht - Ag caomhnú ón am atá thart OPW - Looking to the future - Caring for the past *** Email Disclaimer: http://www.opw.ie/en/disclaimer/ <>___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Thanks Andre, I've loaded these Plugins, will try them. However, one is missing dependencies so may try the other. Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison At 06-08-2015 20:46 Thursday, Andre Joost wrote: Am 06.08.2015 um 20:08 schrieb Springfield Harrison: Hello All, Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an existing projected layer? The plugins Vector Bender and vectorgeoref should do what you want. You have to enable experimental plugins to see them. And maybe the Affine Transformations plugin also works for you. HTH, André Joost ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hello Richard, Will try this also. I use DesignCAD 3D, so no fancy addons but I can manually rotate and shift the vectors to fit the two tie points. I'm creating the vector file in a spreadsheet with distance and bearing entries so will explore closure and transformation there too. If the Plugin works, that's what I'll likely use. Thanks again, cheers . . . . . Spring Harrison At 07-08-2015 01:07 Friday, Richard McDonnell wrote: Hi, There is one sure way to do this, Use your CAD Package to align the property survey to the correct CRS, using two common points. What CAD Package are you using, if you have AutoCAD, then you can use the align command to preform this, I assume that other packages have similar commands! There are vector align plugin's available, but I find the above method simplest, There is a CAD plugin being proposed to help with this process in the future, but it is unfortunately not yet available. I hope this helps, If I can be of any further help, let me know. Regards, Richard. On 06/08/2015 19:08, Springfield Harrison wrote: Hello All, Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an existing projected layer? I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have only local coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for some corners. Thank you . . . . Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison Samsung Tab 4 ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user OPW - Ag féachaint don am atá le teacht - Ag caomhnú ón am atá thart OPW - Looking to the future - Caring for the past Email Disclaimer: http://www.opw.ie/en/disclaimer/ ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > Hello All, > > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an existing > projected layer? > > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have only local > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for some corners. > > Thank you . . . . > > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison > Samsung Tab 4 > > My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to a file. You can then use these control points (gcps) with ogr2ogr to transform the original vector. -Alex ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hello Andrea, I tried both of these with no luck. The Vector Bender is missing some components and does not work, much the same for vectorgeoref. There were warning messages on loading QGIS about missing components. The dialog box for it would open but I only got error messages in Italian, no functionality. Can these plug-ins be made to function? From the messages I see here, the reliability of many add-ons is highly suspect. It seems that the install process has many flaws. Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 06-08-2015 20:46 Thursday, Andre Joost wrote: Am 06.08.2015 um 20:08 schrieb Springfield Harrison: Hello All, Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an existing projected layer? The plugins Vector Bender and vectorgeoref should do what you want. You have to enable experimental plugins to see them. And maybe the Affine Transformations plugin also works for you. HTH, André Joost ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hello Alex, This sounds promising, but then so did the other plug-ins. Where do I find the OGR2OGR functionality? I found some help information referring to it but nothing about how it is accessed. Not sure why I would need to create the control points from the raster georeferencing as I already have them from fieldwork or other sources. What I do need is a function or tool to rubber sheet the un-projected coordinate list onto a projected layer containing the control points. My CAD program is not able to do this. I tried manually shifting and rotating but that is a very sketchy process at best. My testing so far indicates that the transformation to UTM will require both scaling and rotating. Thank you, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > Hello All, > > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an existing > projected layer? > > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have only local > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for some corners. > > Thank you . . . . > > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison > Samsung Tab 4 > > My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to a file. You can then use these control points (gcps) with ogr2ogr to transform the original vector. -Alex ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hello Alex, Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to look? Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > Hello All, > > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an existing > projected layer? > > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have only local > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for some corners. > > Thank you . . . . > > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison > Samsung Tab 4 > > My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to a file. You can then use these control points (gcps) with ogr2ogr to transform the original vector. -Alex ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the current canvas. If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step Example http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference-corners-of-vector-file Enjoy, Alex On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > Hello Alex, > > Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to look? > > Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: >> > Hello All, >> > >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an existing >> > projected layer? >> > >> > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have only local >> > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for some >> corners. >> > >> > Thank you . . . . >> > >> > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison >> > Samsung Tab 4 >> > >> > >> >> My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) >> Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to a file. >> You can then use these control points (gcps) with ogr2ogr to transform >> the original vector. >> >> -Alex > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. to no avail. Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS mapset fails with no reason given. Great tools but why are they so hard to access? Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the current canvas. If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step Example http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference-corners-of-vector-file Enjoy, Alex On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > Hello Alex, > >Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to look? > >Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: >> > Hello All, >> > >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an existing >> > projected layer? >> > >> > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have only local >> > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for some >> corners. >> > >> > Thank you . . . . >> > >> > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison >> > Samsung Tab 4 >> > >> > >> >> My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) >> Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to a file. >> You can then use these control points (gcps) with ogr2ogr to transform >> the original vector. >> >> -Alex > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w shell on Windows. Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. -Alex On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > to no avail. > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS > mapset fails with no reason given. > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? > > Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: >> Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the >> current canvas. >> >> If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step >> >> Example >> http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference-corners-of-vector-file >> >> >> >> Enjoy, >> Alex >> >> On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: >> > Hello Alex, >> > >> >Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any >> > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to look? >> > >> >Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: >> >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: >> >> > Hello All, >> >> > >> >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an >> existing >> >> > projected layer? >> >> > >> >> > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have only >> local >> >> > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for some >> >> corners. >> >> > >> >> > Thank you . . . . >> >> > >> >> > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison >> >> > Samsung Tab 4 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) >> >> Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to a file. >> >> You can then use these control points (gcps) with ogr2ogr to transform >> >> the original vector. >> >> >> >> -Alex >> > >> > ___ >> > Qgis-user mailing list >> > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . . Thanks again, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w shell on Windows. Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. -Alex On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > to no avail. > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS > mapset fails with no reason given. > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? > >Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: >> Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the >> current canvas. >> >> If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step >> >> Example >> http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference-corners-of-vector-file >> >> >> >> Enjoy, >> Alex >> >> On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: >> > Hello Alex, >> > >> > Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any >> > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to look? >> > >> > Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: >> >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: >> >> > Hello All, >> >> > >> >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an >> existing >> >> > projected layer? >> >> > >> >> > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have only >> local >> >> > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for some >> >> corners. >> >> > >> >> > Thank you . . . . >> >> > >> >> > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison >> >> > Samsung Tab 4 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) >> >> Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to a file. >> >> You can then use these control points (gcps) with ogr2ogr to transform >> >> the original vector. >> >> >> >> -Alex >> > >> > ___ >> > Qgis-user mailing list >> > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hi I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and create mapsets. This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any more info let me know. Cheers Tom -Original Message- From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . . Thanks again, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: >ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w >shell on Windows. > >Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. > >-Alex > >On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > > to no avail. > > > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? > > > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS > > mapset fails with no reason given. > > > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? > > > >Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > > > > At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the > >> current canvas. > >> > >> If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step > >> > >> Example > >> > http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference- > corners-of-vector-file > >> > >> > >> > >> Enjoy, > >> Alex > >> > >> On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > >> > Hello Alex, > >> > > >> > Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any > >> > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to look? > >> > > >> > Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring > >> > Harrison > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > >> >> > Hello All, > >> >> > > >> >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an > >> existing > >> >> > projected layer? > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have > >> >> > only > >> local > >> >> > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for > >> >> > some > >> >> corners. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thank you . . . . > >> >> > > >> >> > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison Samsung Tab 4 > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) > >> >> Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to a file. > >> >> You can then use these control points (gcps) with ogr2ogr to transform > >> >> the original vector. > >> >> > >> >> -Alex > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > Qgis-user mailing list > >> > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > >> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Good news! I've struggled with the mapset idea and gave up. Actually, it was the Group thing that finished me off. I'll look again in the processing tool box, I don't remember seeing it. I just (re)installed 2.10 but options seem to come and go at random. For me, QGIS is great but all the install failures and missing dependencies have put me off. I've tried many plugins that won't run. Thanks . . . Cheers . . . . . Spring Samsung Tab 4 On Aug 10, 2015 3:27 AM, "Thomas Colley" wrote: > Hi > > I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from > the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and > create mapsets. > > This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any more > info let me know. > > Cheers > > Tom > > > -Original Message- > From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto: > qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison > Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 > To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user > Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files > > Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better > functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. > Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. > > This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . . > > Thanks again, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w > >shell on Windows. > > > >Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. > > > >-Alex > > > >On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > > > to no avail. > > > > > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? > > > > > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS > > > mapset fails with no reason given. > > > > > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? > > > > > >Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > > > > > > > > At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > > >> Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the > > >> current canvas. > > >> > > >> If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step > > >> > > >> Example > > >> > > http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference- > > corners-of-vector-file > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Enjoy, > > >> Alex > > >> > > >> On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > >> > Hello Alex, > > >> > > > >> > Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any > > >> > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to > look? > > >> > > > >> > Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring > > >> > Harrison > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > > >> >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > >> >> > Hello All, > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an > > >> existing > > >> >> > projected layer? > > >> >> > > > >> >> > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have > > >> >> > only > > >> local > > >> >> > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for > > >> >> > some > > >> >> corners. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Thank you . . . . > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison Samsung Tab 4 > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) > > >> >> Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to a > file. > > >> >> You can then use these control points (gcps) with ogr2ogr to > transform > > >> >> the original vector. > > >> >> > > >> >> -Alex > > >> > > > >> > ___ > > >> > Qgis-user mailing list > > >> > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > > >> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > > > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hi. I have a different experience. Please report the issues you encountered, that's the first step to fix them. All the best. Il 10 agosto 2015 18:24:28 CEST, Springfield Harrison ha scritto: >Good news! I've struggled with the mapset idea and gave up. >Actually, it >was the Group thing that finished me off. > >I'll look again in the processing tool box, I don't remember seeing it. > >I just (re)installed 2.10 but options seem to come and go at random. >For >me, QGIS is great but all the install failures and missing dependencies >have put me off. I've tried many plugins that won't run. > >Thanks . . . > >Cheers . . . . . Spring >Samsung Tab 4 >On Aug 10, 2015 3:27 AM, "Thomas Colley" > >wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile >from >> the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and >> create mapsets. >> >> This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any >more >> info let me know. >> >> Cheers >> >> Tom >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto: >> qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison >> Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 >> To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user >> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files >> >> Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve >better >> functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. >> Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. >> >> This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . . >> >> Thanks again, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison >> >> >> >> At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: >> >ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w >> >shell on Windows. >> > >> >Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into >QGIS. >> > >> >-Alex >> > >> >On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: >> > > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, >help, etc. >> > > to no avail. >> > > >> > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? >> > > >> > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new >GRASS >> > > mapset fails with no reason given. >> > > >> > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? >> > > >> > >Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: >> > >> Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves >the >> > >> current canvas. >> > >> >> > >> If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step >> > >> >> > >> Example >> > >> >> > >http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference- >> > corners-of-vector-file >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Enjoy, >> > >> Alex >> > >> >> > >> On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: >> > >> > Hello Alex, >> > >> > >> > >> > Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find >any >> > >> > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place >to >> look? >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring >> > >> > Harrison >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: >> > >> >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: >> > >> >> > Hello All, >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to >an >> > >> existing >> > >> >> > projected layer? >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that >have >> > >> >> > only >> > >> local >> > >> >> > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available >for >> > >> >> > some >> > >> >> corners. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Thank you . . . . >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison Samsung Tab 4 >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> >> My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) >> > >> >> Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to >a >> file. >> > >> >> You can then use these control points (gcps) with ogr2ogr to >> transform >> > >> >> the original vector. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> -Alex >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > >> > Qgis-user mailing list >> > >> > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >> > >> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> > > >> >> ___ >> Qgis-user mailing list >> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> >> >> > > > > >___ >Qgis-user mailing list >Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user -- Paolo Cavallini http://www.faunalia.eu___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hello Paolo, Good that you can report a different experience, hopefully a better one than mine. My operating system is W7 and I have many years of experience in GIS, mostly Manifold. I have received several suggestions for georeferencing vector files - Vector Bender, VectorGeoreference plug-ins. Both of these failed due to missing dependencies. Although the programs are experimental, should not the underlying essential files be in place? Grass V.rectify, v.transform. I believe these operate through GRASS. I have gone down so many rabbit holes lately that some of these details are beginning to blur. I believe the problem here was using GRASS itself. There seems to be a steep learning curve, particularly with the definition of a mapset. The whole thing fell apart when the process for defining a Group (why?) required a raster file for a purely vector process. I have stuck in a dummy raster file and will try again eventually. This has been hugely time-consuming with nothing to show for it. My main complaints are twofold, missing dependencies. From extensive traffic on this list over the past few weeks, the whole QGIS environment seems to be rife with missing support files. I understand that this is open source, etc. but surely all the essential pieces should be in place. When I attempt to install Vector Bender, it reports missing dependencies and packs up. Why doesn't it just install the missing dependencies, it seems to know what and where they are? Installation confusion. Again, from the above traffic there is much discussion about the two different methods of installing QGIS, one is apparently prone to problems. So why is it still available, in fact why are there two different installation processes at all? Anyway, I recently installed 2.10 using the non-standalone installer. I chose the advanced option, as I do with most programs I install, believing that I could customize the items being installed. This resulted in over 101,000 file being installed, which I found out later is the wrong approach. A better option is to use Express Install which actually does offer some customization options. This terminology is out of step with most programs where express install implies a limited feature set with no options being offered during the process. Anyway, having done that I now have 2.10 but GRASS appears to be only available as a standalone program, whereas before in 2.8 it was available under the plug-in menu option. Why is there not a consistent interface? To sum up, no software, even free, should be offered with missing dependencies. If it doesn't work, don't offer it. And the plethora of installation options is highly confusing and time wasting to say the least. I am prepared to spend countless hours learning how to use the abundant and powerful features of all these programs, but don't feel I should need an IT degree to merely install them and run the various tools. My initial enthusiasm for QGIS has been dampened considerably due to the huge number of hours I have wasted trying to use tools that actually do exist to address my particular needs. Thank you Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 10:32 Monday, Paolo Cavallini wrote: Hi. I have a different experience. Please report the issues you encountered, that's the first step to fix them. All the best. Il 10 agosto 2015 18:24:28 CEST, Springfield Harrison ha scritto: Good news! I've struggled with the mapset idea and gave up.  Actually, it was the Group thing that finished me off. I'll look again in the processing tool box, I don't remember seeing it. I just (re)installed 2.10 but options seem to come and go at random. For me, QGIS is great but all the install failures and missing dependencies have put me off.  I've tried many plugins that won't run. Thanks . . .   Cheers . . . . .  Spring Samsung Tab 4 On Aug 10, 2015 3:27 AM, "Thomas Colley" < it...@neath-porttalbot.gov.uk> wrote: Hi I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and create Mapsets. This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any more info let me know. Cheers Tom -Original Message- From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [ mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . .          Thanks again, cheers . . . .  Spring Harrison At
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hi Tom, I must be missing something. Can't see this in the Processing Toolbx - where do I look? Would it be missing in my version (W7, QGIS2.10.1)? Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 03:27 Monday, Thomas Colley wrote: Hi I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and create mapsets. This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any more info let me know. Cheers Tom -Original Message- From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . . Thanks again, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: >ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w >shell on Windows. > >Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. > >-Alex > >On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > > to no avail. > > > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? > > > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS > > mapset fails with no reason given. > > > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? > > > > Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > > > > At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the > >> current canvas. > >> > >> If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step > >> > >> Example > >> > http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference- > corners-of-vector-file > >> > >> > >> > >> Enjoy, > >> Alex > >> > >> On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > >> > Hello Alex, > >> > > >> > Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any > >> > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to look? > >> > > >> > Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring > >> > Harrison > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > >> >> > Hello All, > >> >> > > >> >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an > >> existing > >> >> > projected layer? > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have > >> >> > only > >> local > >> >> > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for > >> >> > some > >> >> corners. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thank you . . . . > >> >> > > >> >> > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison Samsung Tab 4 > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) > >> >> Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to a file. > >> >> You can then use these control points (gcps) with ogr2ogr to transform > >> >> the original vector. > >> >> > >> >> -Alex > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > Qgis-user mailing list > >> > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > >> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hello Thomas, I have hunted high and low in the Processing Toolbox and cannot find any place there to enter command line instructions. They all seem to be pre-coded tools, nothing with a command line. Should I be looking somewhere else? Thank you again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 03:27 Monday, Thomas Colley wrote: Hi I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and create mapsets. This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any more info let me know. Cheers Tom -Original Message- From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . . Thanks again, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: >ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w >shell on Windows. > >Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. > >-Alex > >On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > > to no avail. > > > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? > > > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS > > mapset fails with no reason given. > > > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? > > > > Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > > > > At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the > >> current canvas. > >> > >> If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step > >> > >> Example > >> > http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference- > corners-of-vector-file > >> > >> > >> > >> Enjoy, > >> Alex > >> > >> On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > >> > Hello Alex, > >> > > >> > Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any > >> > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to look? > >> > > >> > Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring > >> > Harrison > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > >> >> > Hello All, > >> >> > > >> >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an > >> existing > >> >> > projected layer? > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have > >> >> > only > >> local > >> >> > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for > >> >> > some > >> >> corners. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thank you . . . . > >> >> > > >> >> > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison Samsung Tab 4 > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) > >> >> Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to a file. > >> >> You can then use these control points (gcps) with ogr2ogr to transform > >> >> the original vector. > >> >> > >> >> -Alex > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > Qgis-user mailing list > >> > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > >> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hey, Did you do a search in the top part of the dock: [image: Inline image 1] Regards, Nathan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > Hello Thomas, > > I have hunted high and low in the Processing Toolbox and cannot > find any place there to enter command line instructions. They all seem to > be pre-coded tools, nothing with a command line. Should I be looking > somewhere else? > > Thank you again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > At 10-08-2015 03:27 Monday, Thomas Colley wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from >> the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and >> create mapsets. >> >> This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any >> more info let me know. >> >> Cheers >> >> Tom >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto: >> qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison >> Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 >> To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user >> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files >> >> Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better >> functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. >> Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. >> >> This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . . >> >> Thanks again, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison >> >> >> >> At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: >> >ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w >> >shell on Windows. >> > >> >Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. >> > >> >-Alex >> > >> >On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: >> > > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, >> etc. >> > > to no avail. >> > > >> > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? >> > > >> > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS >> > > mapset fails with no reason given. >> > > >> > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? >> > > >> > > Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: >> > >> Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the >> > >> current canvas. >> > >> >> > >> If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step >> > >> >> > >> Example >> > >> >> > http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference- >> > corners-of-vector-file >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Enjoy, >> > >> Alex >> > >> >> > >> On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: >> > >> > Hello Alex, >> > >> > >> > >> > Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any >> > >> > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to >> look? >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring >> > >> > Harrison >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: >> > >> >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: >> > >> >> > Hello All, >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an >> > >> existing >> > >> >> > projected layer? >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have >> > >> >> > only >> > >> local >> > >> >> > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for >> > >> >> > some >> > >> >> corners. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Thank you . . . . >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison Samsung Tab 4 >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> >> My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) >> > >> >> Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to a >> file. >> > >> >> You can then use these control points (gcps) with ogr2ogr to >> transform >> > >> >> the original vector. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> -Alex >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > >> > Qgis-user mailing list >> > >> > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >> > >> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> > > >> >> ___ >> Qgis-user mailing list >> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hey Yourself, Very interesting, this is what I get, bugger all: So what accounts for the difference? Some installation quirk no doubt. I did select GRASS as an installation option. In 2.8.3 it was listed under plug-ins, but under 2.10.1 is no longer there. But it was installed as a standalone. Consistency does not seem to be a strong point here. I do appreciate the help however, I'm sure there is an answer somewhere, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 22:10 Monday, Nathan Woodrow wrote: Hey, Did you do a search in the top part of the dock: Regards, Nathan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Springfield Harrison <stellar...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Thomas,     I have hunted high and low in the Processing Toolbox and cannot find any place there to enter command line instructions. They all seem to be pre-coded tools, nothing with a command line. Should I be looking somewhere else?         Thank you again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 03:27 Monday, Thomas Colley wrote: Hi I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and create mapsets. This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any more info let me know. Cheers Tom -Original Message- From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [ mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . .         Thanks again, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: >ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w >shell on Windows. > >Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. > >-Alex > >On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > > to no avail. > > > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? > > > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS > > mapset fails with no reason given. > > > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? > > > >    Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > > > > At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the > >> current canvas. > >> > >> If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step > >> > >> Example > >> > http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference- > corners-of-vector-file > >> > >> > >> > >> Enjoy, > >> Alex > >> > >> On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > >> > Hello Alex, > >> > > >> >   Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any > >> > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to look? > >> > > >> >       Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring > >> > Harrison > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > >> >> > Hello All, > >> >> > > >> >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an > >> existing > >> >> > projected layer? > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have > >> >> > only > >> local > >> >> > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for > >> >> > some > >> >> corners. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thank you . . . . > >> >> > > >> >> > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison Samsung Tab 4 > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> My trick, is convert the vector an image in QGIS (Save Image) > >> >> Georeference the image, saving the control point list out to
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
At the bottom of that dock there is a interface selection tool. Change it to advanced interface. [image: Inline image 1] Note: There is ongoing discussion on the dev mailing list on how we can improve this. Regards, Nathan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > Hey Yourself, > > Very interesting, this is what I get, bugger all: > > [image: Emacs!] > > So what accounts for the difference? Some installation quirk no > doubt. I did select GRASS as an installation option. In 2.8.3 it was > listed under plug-ins, but under 2.10.1 is no longer there. But it was > installed as a standalone. > > Consistency does not seem to be a strong point here. > > I do appreciate the help however, I'm sure there is an > answer somewhere, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > > At 10-08-2015 22:10 Monday, Nathan Woodrow wrote: > > Hey, > > Did you do a search in the top part of the dock: > > [image: Inline image 1] > > Regards, > Nathan > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Springfield Harrison < > stellar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Thomas, > >     I have hunted high and low in the Processing Toolbox and cannot > find any place there to enter command line instructions. They all seem to > be pre-coded tools, nothing with a command line. Should I be looking > somewhere else? > >         Thank you again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > At 10-08-2015 03:27 Monday, Thomas Colley wrote: > Hi > > I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from > the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and > create mapsets. > > This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any more > info let me know. > > Cheers > > Tom > > > -Original Message- > From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [ > mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org > ] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison > Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 > To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user > Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files > > Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better > functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. > Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. > > This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . . > >         Thanks again, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w > >shell on Windows. > > > >Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. > > > >-Alex > > > >On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > > > to no avail. > > > > > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? > > > > > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS > > > mapset fails with no reason given. > > > > > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? > > > > > >    Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > > > > > > > > At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > > >> Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the > > >> current canvas. > > >> > > >> If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step > > >> > > >> Example > > >> > > http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference- > > corners-of-vector-file > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Enjoy, > > >> Alex > > >> > > >> On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > >> > Hello Alex, > > >> > > > >> >   Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any > > >> > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to > look? > > >> > > > >> >       Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring > > > >> > Harrison > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > > >> >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > >> >> > Hello All, > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vec
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
On 08/10/2015 12:49 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > Hello Paolo, > > Good that you can report a different experience, hopefully a better one than > mine. My operating system is W7 and I have many years of experience in GIS, > mostly Manifold. > > I have received several suggestions for georeferencing vector files - > > * Vector Bender, VectorGeoreference plug-ins. Both of these failed due to > missing dependencies. Although the programs are experimental, should not > the underlying essential files be in place? > * Grass V.rectify, v.transform. I believe these operate through GRASS. I > have gone down so many rabbit holes lately that some of these details are > beginning to blur. I believe the problem here was using GRASS itself. > There seems to be a steep learning curve, particularly with the definition > of a mapset. The whole thing fell apart when the process for defining a > Group (why?) required a raster file for a purely vector process. I have > stuck in a dummy raster file and will try again eventually. This has been > hugely time-consuming with nothing to show for it. > > My main complaints are twofold, > > * missing dependencies. From extensive traffic on this list over the past > few > weeks, the whole QGIS environment seems to be rife with missing support > files. I understand that this is open source, etc. but surely all the > essential pieces should be in place. When I attempt to install Vector > Bender, it reports missing dependencies and packs up. Why doesn't it just > install the missing dependencies, it seems to know what and where they > are? Missing dependencies for Plugins are python libraries that do not ship with QGIS as they are not QGIS specific and are set by plugin authors outside the main QGIS build system. Sometime down the road we hope to be able to pull such libraries as needed during plugin install... On Windows also note that QGIS/OSGeo4w ship with their own Python separate from the system to avoid conflicts. You have to install extra python libs into this QGIS specific python. Nathan has a good blog post about it, maybe someone can recall the link, I can't seem to find it. -Alex ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hi Nathan, Now we are getting somewhere! I would just suggest that this advanced/simple option be made more prominent, probably at the top. I thought it was just a secondary title and never even saw the drop-down arrow. Make it a radio button or something obvious. And I think I see what Alex Mandel was referring to about the raster image. By pretending to Georeference the raster image, one will build a GCP file automatically. At least, I think that was the intent. Anyway, thanks for this, I may actually get somewhere now. This certainly beats jumping through all the hoops to set up a GRASS session. Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 22:40 Monday, Nathan Woodrow wrote: At the bottom of that dock there is a interface selection tool. Change it to advanced interface. Note: There is ongoing discussion on the dev mailing list on how we can improve this. Regards, Nathan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Springfield Harrison <stellar...@gmail.com> wrote: Hey Yourself,         Very interesting, this is what I get, bugger all:         So what accounts for the difference? Some installation quirk no doubt. I did select GRASS as an installation option. In 2.8.3 it was listed under plug-ins, but under 2.10.1 is no longer there. But it was installed as a standalone.         Consistency does not seem to be a strong point here.                 I do appreciate the help however, I'm sure there is an answer somewhere, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 22:10 Monday, Nathan Woodrow wrote: Hey, Did you do a search in the top part of the dock: Regards, Nathan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Springfield Harrison <stellar...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Thomas, à à à à I have hunted high and low in the Processing Toolbox and cannot find any place there to enter command line instructions.à They all seem to be pre-coded tools, nothing with a command line.à Should I be looking somewhere else? à à à à à à à à Thank you again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 03:27 Monday, Thomas Colley wrote: Hi I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and create mapsets. This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any more info let me know. Cheers Tom -Original Message- From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [ mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . . à à à à à à à à Thanks again, cheers . . . .à Spring Harrison At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: >ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w >shell on Windows. > >Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. > >-Alex > >On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > > to no avail. > > > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? > > > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS > > mapset fails with no reason given. > > > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? > > > >à à à à Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > > > > At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the > >> current canvas. > >> > >> If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step > >> > >> Example > >> > http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference- > corners-of-vector-file > >> > >> > >> > >> Enjoy, > >> Alex > >> > >> On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > >> > Hello Alex, > >> > > >> >à à à Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any > >> > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to look? > >> > > >> >à à à à à à à Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring > >> > Harrison > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> &g
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
>> I would just suggest that this advanced/simple option be made more prominent, probably at the top. I thought it was just a secondary title and never even saw the drop-down arrow. Make it a radio button or something obvious. Yeah there is on going talk about what we can do here. Maybe even killing the simplified interface, not sure yet. The progressing toolbox should do what you need and you won't have to worry about map sets and all that. Regards, Nathan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > Hi Nathan, > > Now we are getting somewhere! I would just suggest that this > advanced/simple option be made more prominent, probably at the top. I > thought it was just a secondary title and never even saw the drop-down > arrow. Make it a radio button or something obvious. > > And I think I see what Alex Mandel was referring to about the > raster image. By pretending to Georeference the raster image, one will > build a GCP file automatically. At least, I think that was the intent. > > Anyway, thanks for this, I may actually get somewhere now. This > certainly beats jumping through all the hoops to set up a GRASS session. > > Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring > Harrison > > > > At 10-08-2015 22:40 Monday, Nathan Woodrow wrote: > > At the bottom of that dock there is a interface selection tool. Change it > to advanced interface. > > [image: Inline image 1] > > Note: There is ongoing discussion on the dev mailing list on how we can > improve this. > > Regards, > Nathan > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Springfield Harrison < > stellar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Yourself, > >         Very interesting, this is what I get, bugger all: > > [image: Emacs!] > >         So what accounts for the difference? Some installation > quirk no doubt. I did select GRASS as an installation option. In 2.8.3 it > was listed under plug-ins, but under 2.10.1 is no longer there. But it was > installed as a standalone. > >         Consistency does not seem to be a strong point here. > >                 I do appreciate the help however, I'm sure > there is an answer somewhere, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > > At 10-08-2015 22:10 Monday, Nathan Woodrow wrote: > > Hey, > > Did you do a search in the top part of the dock: > > [image: Inline image 1] > > Regards, > Nathan > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Springfield Harrison < > stellar...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Thomas, > >     I have hunted high and low in the Processing Toolbox and > cannot find any place there to enter command line instructions. They all > seem to be pre-coded tools, nothing with a command line. Should I be > looking somewhere else? > >         Thank you again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring > Harrison > > > At 10-08-2015 03:27 Monday, Thomas Colley wrote: Hi > I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from > the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and > create mapsets. > This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any more > info let me know. > Cheers > Tom > > -Original Message- From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [ > > mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org > ] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison Sent: > 09 August 2015 19:51 To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user Subject: Re: > [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files > Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better > functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. > Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. > This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . . > >         Thanks again, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: >ogr2ogr is a command line > tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w >shell on Windows. > >Supposedly > the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. > >-Alex > >On > 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > Right, but where is > org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > > to no avail. > > > > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? > > > > Also, GRASS has > v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS > > mapset fails with > no reason given. > > > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? > > > > >    Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > > > > >
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
At 10-08-2015 22:47 Monday, Alex Mandel wrote: On 08/10/2015 12:49 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > Hello Paolo, > > Good that you can report a different experience, hopefully a better one than > mine. My operating system is W7 and I have many years of experience in GIS, > mostly Manifold. > > I have received several suggestions for georeferencing vector files - > > * Vector Bender, VectorGeoreference plug-ins. Both of these failed due to > missing dependencies. Although the programs are experimental, should not > the underlying essential files be in place? > * Grass V.rectify, v.transform. I believe these operate through GRASS. I > have gone down so many rabbit holes lately that some of these details are > beginning to blur. I believe the problem here was using GRASS itself. > There seems to be a steep learning curve, particularly with the definition > of a mapset. The whole thing fell apart when the process for defining a > Group (why?) required a raster file for a purely vector process. I have > stuck in a dummy raster file and will try again eventually. This has been > hugely time-consuming with nothing to show for it. > > My main complaints are twofold, > > * missing dependencies. From extensive traffic on this list over the past few > weeks, the whole QGIS environment seems to be rife with missing support > files. I understand that this is open source, etc. but surely all the > essential pieces should be in place. When I attempt to install Vector > Bender, it reports missing dependencies and packs up. Why doesn't it just > install the missing dependencies, it seems to know what and where they are? Missing dependencies for Plugins are python libraries that do not ship with QGIS as they are not QGIS specific and are set by plugin authors outside the main QGIS build system. Sometime down the road we hope to be able to pull such libraries as needed during plugin install... On Windows also note that QGIS/OSGeo4w ship with their own Python separate from the system to avoid conflicts. You have to install extra python libs into this QGIS specific python. Right, a complex process I suppose. I don't understand your second paragraph, and don't really need to. However, it does indicate to me that one needs a fair amount of very specific technical knowledge to do a full and proper install. To me, this is a major failing, as I am not an IT professional and only have rudimentary programming skills. My interest is in using the GIS tools that I need to their fullest, not in unraveling the arcane foibles and quirks of a poorly implemented installation process. As an end-user, my imperative is to do the work, not endlessly fart around trying to get all of it's parts connected and working. If I wanted to do that I would get a degree in computer science and join the development team. Perhaps the developers overestimate the technical computer skills of the end-users. I suspect that most of us don't really care what goes on under the hood, we just want to get work done. Sorry for the rant, I have wasted many evenings on what should be a very simple task. I was contemplating donating to the cause but will give that thought a rest for now. Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison Nathan has a good blog post about it, maybe someone can recall the link, I can't seem to find it. -Alex ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Most likely the algorithm is hidden by the simplified interface. Change to advanced using the drop down in the bottom of the toolbox. And yes, we are already discussing if this interface option makes sense. Best wishes Anita Hey Yourself, Very interesting, this is what I get, bugger all: [image: Emacs!] So what accounts for the difference? Some installation quirk no doubt. I did select GRASS as an installation option. In 2.8.3 it was listed under plug-ins, but under 2.10.1 is no longer there. But it was installed as a standalone. Consistency does not seem to be a strong point here. I do appreciate the help however, I'm sure there is an answer somewhere, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 22:10 Monday, Nathan Woodrow wrote: Hey, Did you do a search in the top part of the dock: [image: Inline image 1] Regards, Nathan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: Hello Thomas,     I have hunted high and low in the Processing Toolbox and cannot find any place there to enter command line instructions. They all seem to be pre-coded tools, nothing with a command line. Should I be looking somewhere else?         Thank you again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 03:27 Monday, Thomas Colley wrote: Hi I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and create mapsets. This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any more info let me know. Cheers Tom -Original Message- From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [ mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org ] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . .         Thanks again, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: >ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w >shell on Windows. > >Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. > >-Alex > >On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > > to no avail. > > > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? > > > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS > > mapset fails with no reason given. > > > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? > > > >    Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > > > > At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the > >> current canvas. > >> > >> If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step > >> > >> Example > >> > http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference- > corners-of-vector-file > >> > >> > >> > >> Enjoy, > >> Alex > >> > >> On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > >> > Hello Alex, > >> > > >> >   Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any > >> > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to look? > >> > > >> >       Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring > >> > Harrison > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > >> >> > Hello All, > >> >> > > >> >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an > >> existing > >> >> > projected layer? > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have > >> >> > only > >> local > >> >> > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available for > >> >> > some > >> >> corners. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thank you . . . . > >> >> > > >> >> > Cheers . . . . . Springfield Harrison Samsung Tab 4 > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> My trick, is convert the vector an
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hello Nathan, Right, the option may be OK, just make it prominent. Anything to avoid the mapset nightmare is welcome. That was another time waster and I never did figure it out, especially the Group option. One of the help screens showed a diagram of the umpteen levels of folders but it still seems like an arduous process. I had hoped that one could define a mapset to include a folder that already had files in it, but it seemed that one had to create empty folders and then import all the map files. Give me strength, there's only so many hours in the day! Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 23:07 Monday, Nathan Woodrow wrote: >> I would just suggest that this advanced/simple option be made more prominent, probably at the top. I thought it was just a secondary title and never even saw the drop-down arrow. Make it a radio button or something obvious. Yeah there is on going talk about what we can do here. Maybe even killing the simplified interface, not sure yet. The progressing toolbox should do what you need and you won't have to worry about map sets and all that. Regards, Nathan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Springfield Harrison <stellar...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Nathan,         Now we are getting somewhere! I would just suggest that this advanced/simple option be made more prominent, probably at the top. I thought it was just a secondary title and never even saw the drop-down arrow. Make it a radio button or something obvious.         And I think I see what Alex Mandel was referring to about the raster image. By pretending to Georeference the raster image, one will build a GCP file automatically. At least, I think that was the intent.         Anyway, thanks for this, I may actually get somewhere now. This certainly beats jumping through all the hoops to set up a GRASS session.                         Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 22:40 Monday, Nathan Woodrow wrote: At the bottom of that dock there is a interface selection tool. Change it to advanced interface. Note: There is ongoing discussion on the dev mailing list on how we can improve this. Regards, Nathanà On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Springfield Harrison <stellar...@gmail.com> wrote: Hey Yourself, à à à à à à à à Very interesting, this is what I get, bugger all:  à à à à à à à à So what accounts for the difference?à Some installation quirk no doubt.à I did select GRASS as an installation option.à In 2.8.3 it was listed under plug-ins, but under 2.10.1 is no longer there.à But it was installed as a standalone. à à à à à à à à Consistency does not seem to be a strong point here. à à à à à à à à à à à à à à à à I do appreciate the help however, I'm sure there is an answer somewhere, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 22:10 Monday, Nathan Woodrow wrote: Hey, Did you do a search in the top part of the dock:  Regards, Nathan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Springfield Harrison <stellar...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Thomas, à à à à I â I have hunted high and low in the Processing Toolbox and cannot find any place there to enter command line instructions.Ãâ They all seem to be pre-coded tools, nothing with a command line.à Should I be looking somewhere else? à à à à Ãâ à à à à Thank you ak you again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 03:27 Monday, Thomas Colley wrote: Hi I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and create mapsets. This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any more info let me know. Cheers Tom -Original Message- From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [ mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . . à à à Ãâ Ãâ à à à à Than Thanks again, cheers . . . .à Spring Harrison At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: >ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w >shell on Windows. > >Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. > >-Alex > >On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > > to no avail. > > > > Sorry to be a b
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Thanks Anita, that "hidden feature" was pointed out and it did the trick. As I mentioned earlier, the option may not be a bad idea, it just needs to be put at the top and made more obvious. Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 23:23 Monday, Anita Graser wrote: Most likely the algorithm is hidden by the simplified interface. Change to advanced using the drop down in the bottom of the toolbox. And yes, we are already discussing if this interface option makes sense. Best wishes Anita Hey Yourself,         Very interesting, this is what I get, bugger all:         So what accounts for the difference? Some installation quirk no doubt. I did select GRASS as an installation option. In 2.8.3 it was listed under plug-ins, but under 2.10.1 is no longer there. But it was installed as a standalone.         Consistency does not seem to be a strong point here.                 I do appreciate the help however, I'm sure there is an answer somewhere, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 22:10 Monday, Nathan Woodrow wrote: Hey, Did you do a search in the top part of the dock: Regards, Nathan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Springfield Harrison <stellar...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Thomas, à à à à I have hunted high and low in the Processing Toolbox and cannot find any place there to enter command line instructions.à They all seem to be pre-coded tools, nothing with a command line.à Should I be looking somewhere else? à à à à à à à à Thank you again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 03:27 Monday, Thomas Colley wrote: Hi I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and create mapsets. This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any more info let me know. Cheers Tom -Original Message- From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [ mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 To: t...@wildintellect.com; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . . à à à à à à à à Thanks again, cheers . . . .à Spring Harrison At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: >ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w >shell on Windows. > >Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. > >-Alex > >On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > > to no avail. > > > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? > > > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS > > mapset fails with no reason given. > > > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? > > > >à à à à Thanks, cheers . . . . Spring Harrison > > > > > > > > At 08-08-2015 23:20 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> Save the whole map, it's on the main File menu, it just saves the > >> current canvas. > >> > >> If you already have a list of gcps you can skip that step > >> > >> Example > >> > http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/107298/process-to-georeference- > corners-of-vector-file > >> > >> > >> > >> Enjoy, > >> Alex > >> > >> On 08/08/2015 07:26 PM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > >> > Hello Alex, > >> > > >> >à à à Further to my last, for Vector Save As, I couldn't find any > >> > option to save it as a raster file. Is there some other place to look? > >> > > >> >à à à à à à à Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring > >> > Harrison > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > At 08-08-2015 12:07 Saturday, Alex Mandel wrote: > >> >> On 08/06/2015 11:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > >> >> > Hello All, > >> >> > > >> >> > Is there a tool/plugin for georeferencing vector files to an > >> existing > >> >> > projected layer? > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm intending to bring in property survey drawings that have > >> >> > only > >> local > >> >> > coordinates but projected coordinates (UTM) are available fo
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Glad you're making some progress. I must admit I didn't know about the simplified/advanced views in the processing toolbox, it must have been by luck that I got into the advanced bit! Have you had any luck with v.transform.pointsfile? Below is an example of the points text file that you'd need to feed it. The first 2 columns are the x,y of your unreferenced drawing and the second 2 are the x,y of the correct location. I used the coordinate capture plugin to get these points. Hope this helps # Linear transformation from XY to UTM coordinates: # 4 maps corners defined # UL NW # UR NE # LR SW # LL SE -0.23631.702 273503.909 193355.703 50.880 48.355 273554.880 193372.500 90.121 20.842 273594.121 193344.697 38.861 4.190 273542.816 193328.027 P.S. It would be REALLY amazing if support could be added to the Georeferencer for vector layers. It seems that just provides a really nice interface for getting these same coordinate pairs. I would have thought that it would be a simple thing to add vector support in there (big words from someone with no idea how to do it!) and would be massively useful for us at least. From: Springfield Harrison [mailto:stellar...@gmail.com] Sent: 11 August 2015 07:28 To: Anita Graser Cc: Nathan Woodrow; Alex Mandel; Thomas Colley; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files Thanks Anita, that "hidden feature" was pointed out and it did the trick. As I mentioned earlier, the option may not be a bad idea, it just needs to be put at the top and made more obvious. Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 23:23 Monday, Anita Graser wrote: Most likely the algorithm is hidden by the simplified interface. Change to advanced using the drop down in the bottom of the toolbox. And yes, we are already discussing if this interface option makes sense. Best wishes Anita Hey Yourself,         Very interesting, this is what I get, bugger all: [Emacs!]         So what accounts for the difference? Some installation quirk no doubt. I did select GRASS as an installation option. In 2.8.3 it was listed under plug-ins, but under 2.10.1 is no longer there. But it was installed as a standalone.         Consistency does not seem to be a strong point here.                 I do appreciate the help however, I'm sure there is an answer somewhere, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 22:10 Monday, Nathan Woodrow wrote: Hey, Did you do a search in the top part of the dock: [Inline image 1] Regards, Nathan On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Springfield Harrison mailto:stellar...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello Thomas, Ã' Ã' Ã' Ã' I have hunted high and low in the Processing Toolbox and cannot find any place there to enter command line instructions.Ã' They all seem to be pre-coded tools, nothing with a command line.Ã' Should I be looking somewhere else? Ã' Ã' Ã' Ã' Ã' Ã' Ã' Ã' Thank you again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 03:27 Monday, Thomas Colley wrote: Hi I did this recently using the GRASS command v.transform.pointsfile from the Processing Toolbox in QGIS. No need to actually go into GRASS and create mapsets. This worked really well for me for unreferenced DXFs. If you need any more info let me know. Cheers Tom -Original Message- From: qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> [ <mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Springfield Harrison Sent: 09 August 2015 19:51 To: t...@wildintellect.com<mailto:t...@wildintellect.com>; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files Ok, thanks. I'm installing QGIS on W7 yet again, trying to achieve better functionality. That is a challenge in itself, prone to wrong turns. Hopefully the VectorGeoref will then work. This whole install process is a real piece of work . . . . . Ã' Ã' Ã' Ã' Ã' Ã' Ã' Ã' Thanks again, cheers . . . .Ã' Spring Harrison At 09-08-2015 10:52 Sunday, Alex Mandel wrote: >ogr2ogr is a command line tool, Terminal/Shell on Mac/Linux, OSGeo4w >shell on Windows. > >Supposedly the Vector Georef plugin wraps this functionality into QGIS. > >-Alex > >On 08/09/2015 12:08 AM, Springfield Harrison wrote: > > Right, but where is org2org? I've looked in many menu items, help, etc. > > to no avail. > > > > Sorry to be a bit thick but how is it accessed? > > > > Also, GRASS has v.transform and v.rectify but starting a new GRASS > > mapset fails with no reason given. > > > > Great tools but why are they so hard to access? > > > >Ã'
Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files
Hello Tom, Thanks for your note, sorry for the delay. Yes, the v.transform seems to work as advertised. Thanks for clarifying which XY columns are for which file. I want to do some more testing on some simple files just to confirm what is happening but it seems to be the correct tool for I'm trying to do. I agree that adding vector capability to the GeoReferencer would be great. I gather that some of these upgrades need to be funded somehow, not all of these features are free I guess. I'm fine with that concept if we know they will work when finished. The "missing dependency" problem seems to be persistent. I think it tends to blight an otherwise marvelous collection of very powerful GIS tools. Thanks Tom, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 11-08-2015 01:17 Tuesday, Thomas Colley wrote: Glad youre making some progress. I must admit I didnt know about the simplified/advanced views in the processing toolbox, it must have been by luck that I got into the advanced bit! Have you had any luck with v.transform.pointsfile? Below is an example of the points text file that youd need to feed it. The first 2 columns are the x,y of your unreferenced drawing and the second 2 are the x,y of the correct location. I used the coordinate capture plugin to get these points. Hope this helps # Linear transformation from XY to UTM coordinates: # 4 maps corners defined # UL NW # UR NE # LR SW # LL SE -0.236 31.702 273503.909 193355.703 50.880 48.355 273554.880 193372.500 90.121 20.842 273594.121 193344.697 38.861 4.190 273542.816 193328.027 P.S. It would be REALLY amazing if support could be added to the Georeferencer for vector layers. It seems that just provides a really nice interface for getting these same coordinate pairs. I would have thought that it would be a simple thing to add vector support in there (big words from someone with no idea how to do it!) and would be massively useful for us at least. From: Springfield Harrison [ mailto:stellar...@gmail.com] Sent: 11 August 2015 07:28 To: Anita Graser Cc: Nathan Woodrow; Alex Mandel; Thomas Colley; qgis-user Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Georeferencing Vector Files Thanks Anita, that "hidden feature" was pointed out and it did the trick. As I mentioned earlier, the option may not be a bad idea, it just needs to be put at the top and made more obvious. Thanks again, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 23:23 Monday, Anita Graser wrote: Most likely the algorithm is hidden by the simplified interface. Change to advanced using the drop down in the bottom of the toolbox. And yes, we are already discussing if this interface option makes sense. Best wishes Anita Hey Yourself,         Very interesting, this is what I get, bugger all:         So what accounts for the difference? Some installation quirk no doubt. I did select GRASS as an installation option. In 2.8.3 it was listed under plug-ins, but under 2.10.1 is no longer there. But it was installed as a standalone.         Consistency does not seem to be a strong point here.                 I do appreciate the help however, I'm sure there is an answer somewhere, Cheers . . . . . . . . Spring Harrison At 10-08-2015 22:10 Monday, Nathan Woodrow wrote: Hey, Did you do a search in the top part of the dock: Regards, Nathan ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user