Re: [qubes-users] bluetooth support in dom0
On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 10:06:29 AM UTC+1, Rune Philosof wrote: > On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 at 4:40:16 PM UTC-6, danf...@gmail.com wrote: > > Any update regarding this? > > I have chosen to do this, it is a terrible downgrade of security from a > normal Qubes system, but I think it is better than the alternative of using > Ubuntu. > In my case I am also not using the usb cube. Also, this is on a Qubes 4.0rc3 > system. I just started using sys-usb. Follow https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb/#how-to-use-a-usb-keyboard and the mouse part if you need that. Do `sudo dnf install blueman` in the sys-usb templateVM (probably fedora-26), shut it and sys-usb down. Then start sys-usb again. You should now see a bluetooth applet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e348f691-a002-4b5e-adda-deefa39f8c83%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] bluetooth support in dom0
On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 at 4:40:16 PM UTC-6, danf...@gmail.com wrote: > Any update regarding this? I have chosen to do this, it is a terrible downgrade of security from a normal Qubes system, but I think it is better than the alternative of using Ubuntu. In my case I am also not using the usb cube. Also, this is on a Qubes 4.0rc3 system. In a dom0 terminal: ``` qubes-dom0-update blueman systemctl enable bluetooth ``` Then reboot the computer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f1d64dc0-6127-45f9-b6e7-00cac5db7261%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] bluetooth support in dom0
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 3:08:59 AM UTC-5, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 2:36:43 AM UTC-5, John Smith wrote: > > On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 12:26:21 AM UTC-7, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 2:23:16 AM UTC-5, John Smith wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 at 4:40:16 PM UTC-6, danf...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know much about the security side of things, but I'm > > > > > > > happy to > > > > > > > > > > > > > blindly ignore any "in my local neighbourhood" kind of attacks if > > > > > > > > > > > > > that was the only issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not use Windows then? Or Mac? :) > > > > > > > > > > Because they don't offer the other nice features such as the app > > > > > domains and disposable VMs. Which I assume would still help against > > > > > remote threats such as web browser exploits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or should I be avoiding Qubes if I can't figure this stuff out > > > > > > > > > > > > > myself? ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just an amateur Linux user mildly interested in increased > > > > > > > > > > > > > security/privacy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Side musing: Have the developers considered allowing *optional* > > > > > > > > > > > > > support for things that have security issues, in the spirit of > > > > > > > > > > > > > compromise...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Qubes OS is an open platform, you can configure it however you like, > > > > > > > > > > > > disabling potentially all security feature, if you really want. The > > > > > > user > > > > > > > > > > > > is the ultimate boss. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I should rephrase that as "easy to use", even GUI based, > > > > > configurability. Perhaps you aren't targeting such "novice" users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance, I absolutely do choose convenience and > > > > > > > > > > > > > even necessity over security (to the tune of bluetooth, full > > > > > > > graphics > > > > > > > > > > > > > card support for game dev work), yet wouldn't there still be > > > > > > > > > > > > > something to be gained by using Qubes even with those security > > > > > > > holes? > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the choice is Qubes with these holes vs just any regular > > > > > > > Linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > distro. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Modern Windows and OSX offer a "reasonable compromise" of security, > > > > > > I heard. > > > > > > > > > > Haha! > > > > > > > > Any update regarding this? > > > > > > hahaha > > > > You manage to figure it out lol? > > I'm sorry i was laughing at Joanna's comments. Do you mean how to enable it > manually, or if Qubes is going to support it? I personally wouldn't want > bluetooth either man. > Maybe you hold your phone too close to it one day haha. Or someone uses some > booster outside your house to reach it who knows. i mean anything can > happen and taking over dom0 is game over. defeats the purpose of using Qubes > which tries to isolate hardware from dom0. > > It is recommended to use usb with a computer that has the Qubes hardware > requirements to be able to isolate the usb controllers from dom0. or at least isolate a controller to dom0 dedicated to only your mouse and keyboard. Just don't use wireless. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e2af9a2e-e791-4eb4-a206-576a0328d222%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] bluetooth support in dom0
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 2:36:43 AM UTC-5, John Smith wrote: > On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 12:26:21 AM UTC-7, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 2:23:16 AM UTC-5, John Smith wrote: > > > On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 at 4:40:16 PM UTC-6, danf...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know much about the security side of things, but I'm happy > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > blindly ignore any "in my local neighbourhood" kind of attacks if > > > > > > > > > > > that was the only issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not use Windows then? Or Mac? :) > > > > > > > > Because they don't offer the other nice features such as the app > > > > domains and disposable VMs. Which I assume would still help against > > > > remote threats such as web browser exploits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or should I be avoiding Qubes if I can't figure this stuff out > > > > > > > > > > > myself? ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just an amateur Linux user mildly interested in increased > > > > > > > > > > > security/privacy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Side musing: Have the developers considered allowing *optional* > > > > > > > > > > > support for things that have security issues, in the spirit of > > > > > > > > > > > compromise...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Qubes OS is an open platform, you can configure it however you like, > > > > > > > > > > disabling potentially all security feature, if you really want. The > > > > > user > > > > > > > > > > is the ultimate boss. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I should rephrase that as "easy to use", even GUI based, > > > > configurability. Perhaps you aren't targeting such "novice" users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance, I absolutely do choose convenience and > > > > > > > > > > > even necessity over security (to the tune of bluetooth, full > > > > > > graphics > > > > > > > > > > > card support for game dev work), yet wouldn't there still be > > > > > > > > > > > something to be gained by using Qubes even with those security > > > > > > holes? > > > > > > > > > > > When the choice is Qubes with these holes vs just any regular Linux > > > > > > > > > > > distro. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Modern Windows and OSX offer a "reasonable compromise" of security, I > > > > > heard. > > > > > > > > Haha! > > > > > > Any update regarding this? > > > > hahaha > > You manage to figure it out lol? I'm sorry i was laughing at Joanna's comments. Do you mean how to enable it manually, or if Qubes is going to support it? I personally wouldn't want bluetooth either man. Maybe you hold your phone too close to it one day haha. Or someone uses some booster outside your house to reach it who knows. i mean anything can happen and taking over dom0 is game over. defeats the purpose of using Qubes which tries to isolate hardware from dom0. It is recommended to use usb with a computer that has the Qubes hardware requirements to be able to isolate the usb controllers from dom0. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/fbc29b17-6576-4228-a29e-c5cb0a60eee9%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] bluetooth support in dom0
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 12:26:21 AM UTC-7, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 2:23:16 AM UTC-5, John Smith wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 at 4:40:16 PM UTC-6, danf...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > I don't know much about the security side of things, but I'm happy to > > > > > > > > > blindly ignore any "in my local neighbourhood" kind of attacks if > > > > > > > > > that was the only issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not use Windows then? Or Mac? :) > > > > > > Because they don't offer the other nice features such as the app domains > > > and disposable VMs. Which I assume would still help against remote > > > threats such as web browser exploits. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or should I be avoiding Qubes if I can't figure this stuff out > > > > > > > > > myself? ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just an amateur Linux user mildly interested in increased > > > > > > > > > security/privacy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Side musing: Have the developers considered allowing *optional* > > > > > > > > > support for things that have security issues, in the spirit of > > > > > > > > > compromise...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Qubes OS is an open platform, you can configure it however you like, > > > > > > > > disabling potentially all security feature, if you really want. The user > > > > > > > > is the ultimate boss. > > > > > > > > > > I should rephrase that as "easy to use", even GUI based, configurability. > > > Perhaps you aren't targeting such "novice" users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance, I absolutely do choose convenience and > > > > > > > > > even necessity over security (to the tune of bluetooth, full graphics > > > > > > > > > card support for game dev work), yet wouldn't there still be > > > > > > > > > something to be gained by using Qubes even with those security holes? > > > > > > > > > When the choice is Qubes with these holes vs just any regular Linux > > > > > > > > > distro. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Modern Windows and OSX offer a "reasonable compromise" of security, I > > > > heard. > > > > > > Haha! > > > > Any update regarding this? > > hahaha You manage to figure it out lol? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/6adb884e-31c6-48d6-9380-adc26a20b706%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] bluetooth support in dom0
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 2:23:16 AM UTC-5, John Smith wrote: > On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 at 4:40:16 PM UTC-6, danf...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > I don't know much about the security side of things, but I'm happy to > > > > > > > blindly ignore any "in my local neighbourhood" kind of attacks if > > > > > > > that was the only issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not use Windows then? Or Mac? :) > > > > Because they don't offer the other nice features such as the app domains > > and disposable VMs. Which I assume would still help against remote threats > > such as web browser exploits. > > > > > > > > > Or should I be avoiding Qubes if I can't figure this stuff out > > > > > > > myself? ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just an amateur Linux user mildly interested in increased > > > > > > > security/privacy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Side musing: Have the developers considered allowing *optional* > > > > > > > support for things that have security issues, in the spirit of > > > > > > > compromise...? > > > > > > > > > > > > Qubes OS is an open platform, you can configure it however you like, > > > > > > disabling potentially all security feature, if you really want. The user > > > > > > is the ultimate boss. > > > > > > > I should rephrase that as "easy to use", even GUI based, configurability. > > Perhaps you aren't targeting such "novice" users. > > > > > > > > > > > For instance, I absolutely do choose convenience and > > > > > > > even necessity over security (to the tune of bluetooth, full graphics > > > > > > > card support for game dev work), yet wouldn't there still be > > > > > > > something to be gained by using Qubes even with those security holes? > > > > > > > When the choice is Qubes with these holes vs just any regular Linux > > > > > > > distro. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Modern Windows and OSX offer a "reasonable compromise" of security, I > > > heard. > > > > Haha! > > Any update regarding this? hahaha -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20acfdfc-4dbf-4ca9-83c1-7d27d00bd628%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] bluetooth support in dom0
On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 at 4:40:16 PM UTC-6, danf...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > I don't know much about the security side of things, but I'm happy to > > > > > blindly ignore any "in my local neighbourhood" kind of attacks if > > > > > that was the only issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not use Windows then? Or Mac? :) > > Because they don't offer the other nice features such as the app domains and > disposable VMs. Which I assume would still help against remote threats such > as web browser exploits. > > > > > > Or should I be avoiding Qubes if I can't figure this stuff out > > > > > myself? ;) > > > > > > > > > > I'm just an amateur Linux user mildly interested in increased > > > > > security/privacy. > > > > > > > > > > Side musing: Have the developers considered allowing *optional* > > > > > support for things that have security issues, in the spirit of > > > > > compromise...? > > > > > > > > Qubes OS is an open platform, you can configure it however you like, > > > > disabling potentially all security feature, if you really want. The user > > > > is the ultimate boss. > > > > I should rephrase that as "easy to use", even GUI based, configurability. > Perhaps you aren't targeting such "novice" users. > > > > > > > For instance, I absolutely do choose convenience and > > > > > even necessity over security (to the tune of bluetooth, full graphics > > > > > card support for game dev work), yet wouldn't there still be > > > > > something to be gained by using Qubes even with those security holes? > > > > > When the choice is Qubes with these holes vs just any regular Linux > > > > > distro. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Modern Windows and OSX offer a "reasonable compromise" of security, I heard. > > Haha! Any update regarding this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/4ddfbecd-6d72-449c-b27a-c4cacaa6a1cf%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
