Re: [qubes-users] Backup while VMs are running??

2019-05-28 Thread unman
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:51:02PM -0700, Claudio Chinicz wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I make few backups because I fear doing backups while using my VMs, specially 
> Windows 10 and Linux Mint HVMs. So, I do it once in a while, when I have have 
> some free time and can spen not using the computer while it prepares the 
> backups, after having shut down the VMs.
> 
> All the discussion about updates breaking Qubes makes me wonder I should do 
> backups more often.
> 
> Is it possible to do backups of HVMs and VMs in general while using them? I'm 
> afraid I may have an issue when restoring.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Claudio
> 

If you backup a running qube with Qubes backup, it will backup the state before 
you
started it. May or may not be what you want.

You can use file backups to capture anything since qube started.

btrfs will let you snapshot running systems.

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Re: [qubes-users] Backup while VMs are running??

2019-05-28 Thread Chris Laprise

On 5/28/19 2:51 AM, Claudio Chinicz wrote:

Hi All,

I make few backups because I fear doing backups while using my VMs, specially 
Windows 10 and Linux Mint HVMs. So, I do it once in a while, when I have have 
some free time and can spen not using the computer while it prepares the 
backups, after having shut down the VMs.

All the discussion about updates breaking Qubes makes me wonder I should do 
backups more often.

Is it possible to do backups of HVMs and VMs in general while using them? I'm 
afraid I may have an issue when restoring.


If you installed Qubes with the disk/storage defaults, which uses LVM 
snapshots – or if you manually set it to install with Btrfs – then its 
safe to backup while VMs are running. The backup will simply use the 
snapshot from the last time the VM was shut down.


OTOH, if you manually changed the Qubes install to use Ext4 filesystem, 
there might be a problem in that case.


The disk usage widget in the system tray will tell you what kind of 
storage system your Qubes is using; if you used the default LVM it will 
say "lvm" with the usage stats to the right.


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[qubes-users] Backup while VMs are running??

2019-05-28 Thread Claudio Chinicz
Hi All,

I make few backups because I fear doing backups while using my VMs, specially 
Windows 10 and Linux Mint HVMs. So, I do it once in a while, when I have have 
some free time and can spen not using the computer while it prepares the 
backups, after having shut down the VMs.

All the discussion about updates breaking Qubes makes me wonder I should do 
backups more often.

Is it possible to do backups of HVMs and VMs in general while using them? I'm 
afraid I may have an issue when restoring.

Thanks in advance,
Claudio

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