Re: [R] Why is the R mailing list so hard to figure out?

2007-06-05 Thread Martin Maechler
> "VE" == Vladimir Eremeev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> on Tue, 5 Jun 2007 01:39:47 -0700 (PDT) writes:

VE> irishhacker wrote:
>> 
>> Why does the R mailing list need such an unusual and
>> customized user interface?

Well, that's  VERY MUCH a matter of point of view, and the view
is most probably very highly dependent on your year of birth.
For many old timers like me, e-mail is at least as natural as
web browsing.  I see that such an attitude becomes more and more
outdated.


VE> There was a discussion of this some time ago on the
VE> list.  I believe, RSiteSearch("r-help mailing list
VE> forum") or some other similar keywords will find it.

VE> irishhacker wrote:
>> 
>> What's the best way to view and read discussions in this
>> group for recent days? Can I view the postings for the
>> current day via Google Groups?

 Well, one way is still *subscribing* to R-help and
 occasionally helping each other,
 instead of just perusing it as a resource ...

>> GMANE was mentioned already.

VE> I use the Nabble interface
VE> (http://www.nabble.com/R-f13819.html), it seems more
VE> convenient to me, but it collects less lists than Gmane.

Yes, but it appends its silly footer (aka "advertizement") to
all mails sent out, luring people to use it.

I (as mailing list manager) have considered more than once to
just evaporate such footers as I evaporate most other
spam-footers (as e.g. from hotmail, yahoo, gmx, ...).

Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich


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Re: [R] Why is the R mailing list so hard to figure out?

2007-06-05 Thread Vladimir Eremeev



irishhacker wrote:
> 
> Why does the R mailing list need such an unusual and customized user
> interface?
> 
There was a discussion of this some time ago on the list.
I believe, RSiteSearch("r-help mailing list forum") or some other similar
keywords will find it.


irishhacker wrote:
> 
> What's the best way to view and read discussions in this group for
> recent days? Can I view the postings for the current day via Google
> Groups?
> 

GMANE was mentioned already.
I use the Nabble interface (http://www.nabble.com/R-f13819.html), it seems
more convenient to me, but it collects less lists than Gmane.

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Re: [R] Why is the R mailing list so hard to figure out?

2007-06-05 Thread Gavin Simpson
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 18:25 -0500, Robert Wilkins wrote:
> Why does the R mailing list need such an unusual and customized user 
> interface?
> 
> Last January, I figured out how to read Usenet mailing lists ( or
> Usenet groups ) and they all pretty much work the same, learn to use
> one, you've learned to use them all ( gnu.misc.discuss ,
> comp.lang.lisp , and so on ).
> 
> What's the best way to view and read discussions in this group for
> recent days? Can I view the postings for the current day via Google
> Groups?
> 
> I hope I'm posting correctly.

Having never used Google Groups or Usenet I have no idea if this is the
same/similar, but the R mailing lists are archived via the Gmane service
(amongst others), which you can view, threaded in your browser (over
http), or point your favourite news (nntp) or RSS feed collator at it.

The entry page is:
http://gmane.org/info.php?group=gmane.comp.lang.r.general

In the Groups section, you'll find links to the various options. If
using a news reader (nntp) or RSS feed collator, just copy the relevant
links into your application of choice.

A threaded web view of the latest posts, for example, is at (via the
"threaded HTTP" link in the Groups section of the above mentioned link):

http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.r.general

I personally let my emailer manage the posting for me as I find that the
easiest way to work...

HTH

G

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Re: [R] Why is the R mailing list so hard to figure out?

2007-06-04 Thread Benilton Carvalho
Well, I have my email client to organize everything by thread...  
which does the work for me...

ethz: Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule Zürich
ch: Confœderatio Helvetica

best,
b

On Jun 4, 2007, at 7:25 PM, Robert Wilkins wrote:

> Why does the R mailing list need such an unusual and customized  
> user interface?
>
> Last January, I figured out how to read Usenet mailing lists ( or
> Usenet groups ) and they all pretty much work the same, learn to use
> one, you've learned to use them all ( gnu.misc.discuss ,
> comp.lang.lisp , and so on ).
>
> What's the best way to view and read discussions in this group for
> recent days? Can I view the postings for the current day via Google
> Groups?
>
> I hope I'm posting correctly.
>
> What does "ethz" and "ch" stand for? Is "ch" for Switzerland?
>
>
> Robert

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[R] Why is the R mailing list so hard to figure out?

2007-06-04 Thread Robert Wilkins
Why does the R mailing list need such an unusual and customized user interface?

Last January, I figured out how to read Usenet mailing lists ( or
Usenet groups ) and they all pretty much work the same, learn to use
one, you've learned to use them all ( gnu.misc.discuss ,
comp.lang.lisp , and so on ).

What's the best way to view and read discussions in this group for
recent days? Can I view the postings for the current day via Google
Groups?

I hope I'm posting correctly.

What does "ethz" and "ch" stand for? Is "ch" for Switzerland?


Robert

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