[RBW] Re: brake levers on albastache bars

[Jim S.]

Thank you all for the information. This is very helpful!

On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 3:06:11 PM UTC-5 Jim S. wrote:

> Hi, I was hoping to tap in on this group's knowledge yet again. I am 
> mounting TRP road-brake levers on Albastache bars. My questions are as 
> follows:
>
> 1.  Does anyone have a recommended location on the bar to mount them? I 
> understand that I should mount them wherever comfortable, but I'm hoping 
> someone can just tell me a reasonable place to mount them, and if it works 
> for most, it'll probably work for me.
>
> 2. Having identified the right place to mount them, how do I make sure 
> that they are exactly symmetrical, as I am OCD about handlebar issues?
>
> 3.  These levers come with a plastic insert. I couldn't figure out what to 
> do with the inserts, as I can't even get the levers on to the bars if I 
> leave them in there. Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks as always for any information.
>
> Jim S.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: brake levers on albastache bars

[Joe Bernard]

Update, I'm overthinking it. If you use my idea of laying the bar against 
the wall, do this: Have the levers slid far in, bar flat against smooth 
wall, slide lever over until it's just brushing the wall, then slide back 
towards the stem about a centimeter. Repeat on other side, done! 



On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 1:06:11 PM UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:

> Hi, I was hoping to tap in on this group's knowledge yet again. I am 
> mounting TRP road-brake levers on Albastache bars. My questions are as 
> follows:
>
> 1.  Does anyone have a recommended location on the bar to mount them? I 
> understand that I should mount them wherever comfortable, but I'm hoping 
> someone can just tell me a reasonable place to mount them, and if it works 
> for most, it'll probably work for me.
>
> 2. Having identified the right place to mount them, how do I make sure 
> that they are exactly symmetrical, as I am OCD about handlebar issues?
>
> 3.  These levers come with a plastic insert. I couldn't figure out what to 
> do with the inserts, as I can't even get the levers on to the bars if I 
> leave them in there. Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks as always for any information.
>
> Jim S.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: brake levers on albastache bars

[Erik Wright]

I just snagged some of those levers as well and mounted them on some 
Noodles. The inserts are to adjust the angle of the lever/hoods in relation 
to the bar. On a drop bar, they change how much the hoods tilt back towards 
you vs how far forward they tilt. They came in pretty handy with the Noodle 
bars I installed them on, because the curve of the Noodle's bend to the 
drops is much different than, say, a more modern ergo bar with a sharper 
angled bend. The inserts allowed my to set the levers up with a flat 
bar-to-hood position. I agree that they were very difficult to mount with 
the inserts inside the levers- not sure why this is. Once they were past 
the end of the bar, they moved smoothly. I just kinda muscled them on there 
with the clamp fully loose.

Strange to explain without images, and maybe that's all gibberish. Google 
didn't turn up much image-wise, but on an Albastache I'd recommend leaving 
the inserts aside. They seem more necessary when top-of-the-hoods is a 
riding position; less so on an Albastache where the levers are turned 
sideways.

Erik, Philly

On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 4:21:26 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I like to mount them with the ends of the levers a smidge inside of the 
> plane of the grips, such that if you learned the bar flat against a wall 
> the levers wouldn't touch it. 
>
> For symmetry you can get one lever mounted, then get a piece of masking 
> tape cut to the exact length from the inside of the hood to the stem. Move 
> that piece over to the other side and slide your lever on to the same spot. 
> Not sure about getting them positioned at the same level..maybe use a tape 
> measure from the floor to the lever? 
>
> I can't help with the inserts, sorry. Maybe you can post a pic?
>
> Joe "my wrists can't ride these bars but they sure look cool" Bernard
>
> On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 1:06:11 PM UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> Hi, I was hoping to tap in on this group's knowledge yet again. I am 
>> mounting TRP road-brake levers on Albastache bars. My questions are as 
>> follows:
>>
>> 1.  Does anyone have a recommended location on the bar to mount them? I 
>> understand that I should mount them wherever comfortable, but I'm hoping 
>> someone can just tell me a reasonable place to mount them, and if it works 
>> for most, it'll probably work for me.
>>
>> 2. Having identified the right place to mount them, how do I make sure 
>> that they are exactly symmetrical, as I am OCD about handlebar issues?
>>
>> 3.  These levers come with a plastic insert. I couldn't figure out what 
>> to do with the inserts, as I can't even get the levers on to the bars if I 
>> leave them in there. Am I doing something wrong?
>>
>> Thanks as always for any information.
>>
>> Jim S.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: brake levers on albastache bars

[Joe Bernard]

I like to mount them with the ends of the levers a smidge inside of the 
plane of the grips, such that if you learned the bar flat against a wall 
the levers wouldn't touch it. 

For symmetry you can get one lever mounted, then get a piece of masking 
tape cut to the exact length from the inside of the hood to the stem. Move 
that piece over to the other side and slide your lever on to the same spot. 
Not sure about getting them positioned at the same level..maybe use a tape 
measure from the floor to the lever? 

I can't help with the inserts, sorry. Maybe you can post a pic?

Joe "my wrists can't ride these bars but they sure look cool" Bernard

On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 1:06:11 PM UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:

> Hi, I was hoping to tap in on this group's knowledge yet again. I am 
> mounting TRP road-brake levers on Albastache bars. My questions are as 
> follows:
>
> 1.  Does anyone have a recommended location on the bar to mount them? I 
> understand that I should mount them wherever comfortable, but I'm hoping 
> someone can just tell me a reasonable place to mount them, and if it works 
> for most, it'll probably work for me.
>
> 2. Having identified the right place to mount them, how do I make sure 
> that they are exactly symmetrical, as I am OCD about handlebar issues?
>
> 3.  These levers come with a plastic insert. I couldn't figure out what to 
> do with the inserts, as I can't even get the levers on to the bars if I 
> leave them in there. Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Thanks as always for any information.
>
> Jim S.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?

[Garth]

Bar end brake levers and thumbshifters mounted about the same place as the 
former brake lever mount (on the top-inside-the-curve).  I have all my Alba 
bars setup this way and I'd do the same with Albastache bars.   

I simply prefer to "reach out" for a shifter than a brake lever. 

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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?

[Garth]

   As I mentioned, I do this on Alba bars , here's a pic of one bike .  
With a Albastache and it's larger diameter bars I'd first use some Falcon 
friction thumbshifters that I bought years ago and are still for sale. They 
are rather generic in that I've seen the same shifter under a different 
name. These are a plastic ratcheting mechanism so I don't expect SunTour 
durability. 
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/shifting-freewheels-cassettes/shifters/falcon-friction-thumb-shifters.html
http://www.amazon.com/EVO-E-Thumb-Friction-Shifter/dp/B00ZINPZUO

  These have a decidedly low tech clamp that can be used for mtn. or road 
bars . Otherwise I'd use the VO thumbie mounts Zed linked with some Suntour 
power ratchet levers I've have.  A stem mount would be another option but 
I've never done that.  With those shifter it would like kinds like this, a 
link to a lovelybicycle photo stream. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lovely_bicycle/5556919523/in/photostream/


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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?

[drew]

Garth, I'm intrigued. Any pics of this setup?

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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Garth, what thumbshifters do you have that fit Albastaches? They are a road 
diameter bar, and all of the thumbshifters I know of are for mtb diameter bars.

Eamon

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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?

[drew]

i think paul made a 26 thumbie for a while.

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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?

[Zed Martinez]

VO's new thumbie mounts will also work for all types of bars, they 
say: 
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/shifting-freewheels-cassettes/shifters/vo-thumb-shifter-mounts-22-2-23-8.html

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 11:16:46 AM UTC-5, Eamon Nordquist wrote:
>
> Garth, what thumbshifters do you have that fit Albastaches? They are a 
> road diameter bar, and all of the thumbshifters I know of are for mtb 
> diameter bars. 
>
> Eamon

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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?

[drew]

I have the trp levers. The brakes work great, but I had to mount them upside 
down because the ergo style design has the lever flayed out for use with drops, 
and they angled oddly up when horizontally mounted. I'll probably change them 
when I can justify a cockpit overhaul, but right now everything is pretty 
nicely tuned in. I prefer aero levers, but zed is right, the cable routing is a 
bit wonky on albastache

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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?

[Zed Martinez]

Are you talking just brake levers, or integrated? For just brakes, I like 
the Dia Compe Gran Compe 202 on mine 
(http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/brakes/levers/gran-compe-202-non-aero-brake-levers-drilled.html),
 
though, if I was doing it again I'd get the cheaper non-drilled versions 
(http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/brakes/levers/gran-compe-brake-levers.html).
 
I like the smaller bodies a lot more than the aero Tektro RL340s I used 
previously, and I definitely like old style non-aero cable routing a lot 
more on the albastache. The aero routing always made it hard to run new 
cables through the housing once I wrapped it under shellacked cotton.

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