[RBW] Re: New Year's Day, NBD!

[Kim H.]

Congratulations Joe on your NBD on New Year's Day !  

The RBW Blue is such a fantastic color. She is a beauty !  I am sure that 
you are, if not already have fallen in love with it. Every time I walk by 
mine here in my home,  a 52cm Blue Clem, I admire it every time. I am very 
delighted to own one. 

What size is it ?  59cm ? ..or ?

I am certain that you will find it a real fun bike on and off road.

I'm looking forward to your periodical ride reports in and around Clear 
Lake.

Long my you ride with smiles and joy in your heart.

All my best,
Kim Hetzel.


On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 9:03:48 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Surprise! And happy NBD. You really know how to ring in the new year. From 
> NYC, to Las Vegas, to Michigan and now to California this bike has lived 
> quite a life and doesn’t look any worse for the wear, I’d say.
>
> Enjoy and put some marks on that thing.
> Leah
>
> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 11:40:17 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Remember Leah's lovely shimmery blue Clem L? Now it's MY lovely shimmery 
>> blue Clem L! This is pre-racked and bagged and all that (and there's an 
>> errant black brake cable cuz I'm waiting for a long gray one) but I wanted 
>> to show off my new-to-me bike. It's wonderful, I love it 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> Lake County CA
>>
>> [image: Screenshot_20240101_203513.jpg][image: 
>> Screenshot_20240101_203538.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Year's Day, NBD!

[Joe Bernard]

Leah: It's a wonderful bike whose journey I've followed for years, it feels 
like an old friend arrived at my doorstep. Thanks so much!

Kim: It's a 52, it just looks huge in the photos with 42mm tires. But it's 
a loong 52, I've owned shorter recumbents! 

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 9:27:53 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Congratulations Joe on your NBD on New Year's Day !  
>
> The RBW Blue is such a fantastic color. She is a beauty !  I am sure that 
> you are, if not already have fallen in love with it. Every time I walk by 
> mine here in my home,  a 52cm Blue Clem, I admire it every time. I am very 
> delighted to own one. 
>
> What size is it ?  59cm ? ..or ?
>
> I am certain that you will find it a real fun bike on and off road.
>
> I'm looking forward to your periodical ride reports in and around Clear 
> Lake.
>
> Long my you ride with smiles and joy in your heart.
>
> All my best,
> Kim Hetzel.
>
>
> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 9:03:48 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Surprise! And happy NBD. You really know how to ring in the new year. 
>> From NYC, to Las Vegas, to Michigan and now to California this bike has 
>> lived quite a life and doesn’t look any worse for the wear, I’d say.
>>
>> Enjoy and put some marks on that thing.
>> Leah
>>
>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 11:40:17 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Remember Leah's lovely shimmery blue Clem L? Now it's MY lovely shimmery 
>>> blue Clem L! This is pre-racked and bagged and all that (and there's an 
>>> errant black brake cable cuz I'm waiting for a long gray one) but I wanted 
>>> to show off my new-to-me bike. It's wonderful, I love it 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>> Lake County CA
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot_20240101_203513.jpg][image: 
>>> Screenshot_20240101_203538.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: ROADINI in South Pasadena

[Tony Lockhart]

Apologies if flashing GIF is annoying; you can tell that both bikes are 
VERY similar in size. The Leo rides just as predictably as the Sam, with 
minimal differences. Out of the saddle climbs are more efficient on the 
Leo, and it's not as squirrely with steering as the Sam on slow rolls. The 
Leo tracks a lot better. I will say that the Leo was immediately familiar 
with all of the best riding characteristics just like the Sam. Very curious 
to see how the Leo handles on 40mm tires.


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[RBW] Re: New Year's Day, NBD!

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Surprise! And happy NBD. You really know how to ring in the new year. From 
NYC, to Las Vegas, to Michigan and now to California this bike has lived 
quite a life and doesn’t look any worse for the wear, I’d say.

Enjoy and put some marks on that thing.
Leah

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 11:40:17 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Remember Leah's lovely shimmery blue Clem L? Now it's MY lovely shimmery 
> blue Clem L! This is pre-racked and bagged and all that (and there's an 
> errant black brake cable cuz I'm waiting for a long gray one) but I wanted 
> to show off my new-to-me bike. It's wonderful, I love it 
>
> Joe Bernard
> Lake County CA
>
> [image: Screenshot_20240101_203513.jpg][image: 
> Screenshot_20240101_203538.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Black Mountain Cycles V5.5 Monstercross 60 cm Olive Oil

[Mike Godwin]

I have the opposite Ian, a lot of the cool bikes I see FS or trade are on 
the small side for me. 

Mike SLO CA

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 3:39:14 PM UTC-8 ian m wrote:

> Why are all the cool bikes too large? Great price wish it could be mine
>
> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 2:38:42 PM UTC-5 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks
>> Reposted my bike to San Luis Obispo craigslist.  Black Mountain Cycles 
>> Monstercross 60 cm - bicycles - by owner - bike sale - craigslist 
>> 
>>
>> Bike build details in the CL ad. Typical parts bin build, rather from 
>> parts bins of Riv list or ibob list people.  Currently shod with Maxxis 
>> Refuse 700x40 smooth tires. 
>>
>> All offers accepted, not willing to part out at this time.
>>
>> Mike SLO CA 
>>
>> On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 9:16:02 PM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks
>>>
>>> I have a Monstercross from 2016. I don't ride it as much anymore, so I'd 
>>> like it to go to a new home. $1500 entire bike sans saddle. On San Luis 
>>> Obispo CL. Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross 60 cm - bicycles - by 
>>> owner - bike sale - craigslist 
>>> 
>>>
>>> I have roadie wheelset, for $350 extra:  Red Bitex hubs, black Pacenti 
>>> Forza rims, 14-17 Sapim spokes, 32 hole.
>>>
>>> Pump peg, one set of eyelets on the front dropouts, two sets of eyelets 
>>> on the rear dropouts, mid-fork rack eyelets, rack eyelets on seatstays, 
>>> three sets of water bottle bosses, M5 bosses on the chainstay bridge and 
>>> seat stay bridge for fender mounting.  
>>>
>>> Axle spacing, 100 mm front, 130 mm rear, takes conventional quick 
>>> release wheels. Clearance for 29 x 2.1 tires (700 x 52), but equally at 
>>> home with 700x35-38 tires.
>>>
>>> Seat tube – 60 cm center to center 
>>>
>>> Top tube – 58.5 cm / 22.5 inches center to center
>>>
>>> Standover height – 85 cm / about 33 inches with 700 x 52 tires 
>>>
>>> 27.2 mm Velo Orange Gran Cru 2-bolt seat post
>>>
>>> No-name sealed bottom bracket
>>>
>>> Cane Creek 1 1/8 inch headset
>>>
>>> Specialized eccentric 9 cm stem, Salsa Cowchipper bars 57 cm
>>>
>>> Paul Components canti brakes with Kool Stop pads 
>>>
>>> TRP brake levers with QR button
>>>
>>> Rivendell Silver V1 bar end shifters
>>>
>>> Shimano 105 RD
>>>
>>> Campagnolo Centaur 10-spd FD
>>>
>>> Sugino 170 crank 48-36-24, mix of Ritchey, IRD and TA chainrings
>>>
>>> LX or somesuch 10-spd cogset 32-11t
>>>
>>> Shimano 105 hubs, H-SON Plus TB-14 rims, 14 g DT spokes
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

[SeanMac]

Hi everyone.  Happy New Year!

I am the proud owner of a grey Cheviot.  One of the reasons that I 
purchased that bike was to ride on bike trails near me (such as the Erie 
Canal Trail) with my wife.  She and I have done a bit of riding together.  
However, as I am a more experienced cyclists, she sometimes gets frustrated 
with me.  Happily, riding my Cheviot has helped me to slow down and enjoy 
the ride with her.

My wife has been riding a Trek hybrid bike that is at least 30 years old.  
I would love for her to get something new for our rides together.  She is 
on-board with this idea (much to my delight).  A new Rivendell seems to be 
just the ticket to more quality bike time - for her alone and for us 
together.  The question, of course, is which model would be the best choice.

Given that I have a Cheviot, a Platypus for her was my first suggestion.  I 
sense that it rides pretty similarly to my Cheviot - plush, stable and 
relatively quick once it gets going.  However, my wife was a bit surprised 
by the price tag of the Platty, and began to focus on the Clem.  When she 
asked why the Clem was less expensive I spoke about the lugs, but didn't 
know what else really differentiated the two bikes.  This is why I am 
reaching out to the group.

I would be grateful if folks on the list who are familiar with both the 
Clem and Platypus would provide some additional insight into the 
differences between the two models.  I think that either bike would meet my 
wife's needs.  However, thoughts on which would best meet those needs are 
much appreciated.

Thanks,
Sean
Buffalo, NY

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[RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2023-2024 Ride Photos

[Bill Lindsay]

I did a couple rides around and up Mount Diablo to finish up 2023.  The 
ride around Mount Diablo actually features steeper climbing than the ride 
up Mount Diablo, but they are both a good day's work.  I'm going to take a 
run at a Mount Diablo summit on Thursday.  

Here's a shot of the Morgan Territory ride on 
12/29: https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53428571996/in/datetaken/

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 2:37:28 PM UTC-8 DavidP wrote:

> Thanks, for getting us going Ted! 
>
> My last ride of 2023 and first ride of 2024 were both on a new single 
> speed / fixed gear build I finished up last week (a Handsome Devil).
>
> Yesterday was a shakedown ride of a few miles.
>
> [image: GR001-05061_handsome-1800.jpg]
>
> Today I got out for a mostly road ride with my son who is getting my 
> previous single speed bike for the time being
>
> [image: GR001-05068_nat-1800.jpg]
>
> Happy New Year all!
>
> -Dave (near Boston)
>
>
> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 5:04:03 PM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> Well, I guess I'm back up for starting the thread.
>>
>> We haven't had much winter weather here, meaning no real snow, yet. A 
>> couple of days ago we had a beautiful, sunny day, temps around 40, and (for 
>> us) not a lot of wind. I took advantage and did the 
>> round-the-city-mostly-bike-paths loop. This is on the Hank Aaron trail. 
>> American Family Field isn't seeing much use these days, but it's just a 
>> handful of weeks before pitchers and catchers report down south.
>> [image: IMG_1825.jpeg]
>>
>> A bit more blustery and a bit of sleet yesterday, but I managed to sneak 
>> in a bit of a ride. Today pal Kurt and I did a 100km effort. Forecast was 
>> for temps around 30 and some sunshine. You can see how that turned out. 
>> I'll take 100km on 1/1, though! Kurt's riding his Gunnar Sport. I bet that 
>> bike has over 30,000 kms on it, including an epic 200km on a bitter cold 
>> January 31st, to get him an R-12 just under the wire.
>> [image: IMG_1829.jpeg]
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA
>>
>

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[RBW] Is this you in Sacramento?

[luckyturnip]

Are you the man with a beard who rode past me on a green Platypus in Land Park 
Sacramento?
I’d love to check out your Platy some time.

Liz on an Atlantis in Sacramento 

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[RBW] Re: ISO 32h dyno hub

[Bones]

PM sent.

Bones

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:

> Does anyone happen to have a 32h 100mm dyno hub lying around? Want to 
> rebuild the wife's new Platyups front wheel. Silver would be preferred. 
> Thanks 

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[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

[Johnny Alien]

I used the word perhaps a LOT of times there

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 7:51:39 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

>
> For the type of riding you describe either will work. Since it is for her 
> she should go with whichever speaks to her more. Perhaps a higher price 
> will make her treat it more delicately and perhaps ride it less OR perhaps 
> because the Platy is fancier she will wan to ride it much more. Either way 
> there is no wrong answer as far as quality of product or ride.
> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 7:04:07 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Sean, I can't respond fully to your question --  I've not ridden a Clem. 
>> I have seen one up close and personal though. RBW describes the Clem as 
>> MTB-ish, and the example I saw was an exceptional build; big RH knobbies 
>> and polished Paul brakes and levers (I want one just like it!!!).
>>
>> I find my Platypus to be exactly as Rivendell describes it. Back to your 
>> question -- 
>> I don't know your wife, but here's the thing with the Platypus, if you 
>> think she would appreciate a bicycle that she falls in love with all over 
>> again every time she rides it, then go with the Platypus!
>>
>> Steve in Asheville, NC
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: 251A34BC-59A6-4FEA-AA29-F3A25879C6F4.jpeg] if 
>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 5:29:59 PM UTC-5 SeanMac wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone.  Happy New Year!
>>>
>>> I am the proud owner of a grey Cheviot.  One of the reasons that I 
>>> purchased that bike was to ride on bike trails near me (such as the Erie 
>>> Canal Trail) with my wife.  She and I have done a bit of riding together.  
>>> However, as I am a more experienced cyclists, she sometimes gets frustrated 
>>> with me.  Happily, riding my Cheviot has helped me to slow down and enjoy 
>>> the ride with her.
>>>
>>> My wife has been riding a Trek hybrid bike that is at least 30 years 
>>> old.  I would love for her to get something new for our rides together.  
>>> She is on-board with this idea (much to my delight).  A new Rivendell seems 
>>> to be just the ticket to more quality bike time - for her alone and for us 
>>> together.  The question, of course, is which model would be the best choice.
>>>
>>> Given that I have a Cheviot, a Platypus for her was my first 
>>> suggestion.  I sense that it rides pretty similarly to my Cheviot - plush, 
>>> stable and relatively quick once it gets going.  However, my wife was a bit 
>>> surprised by the price tag of the Platty, and began to focus on the Clem.  
>>> When she asked why the Clem was less expensive I spoke about the lugs, but 
>>> didn't know what else really differentiated the two bikes.  This is why I 
>>> am reaching out to the group.
>>>
>>> I would be grateful if folks on the list who are familiar with both the 
>>> Clem and Platypus would provide some additional insight into the 
>>> differences between the two models.  I think that either bike would meet my 
>>> wife's needs.  However, thoughts on which would best meet those needs are 
>>> much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sean
>>> Buffalo, NY
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

[Johnny Alien]

For the type of riding you describe either will work. Since it is for her 
she should go with whichever speaks to her more. Perhaps a higher price 
will make her treat it more delicately and perhaps ride it less OR perhaps 
because the Platy is fancier she will wan to ride it much more. Either way 
there is no wrong answer as far as quality of product or ride.
On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 7:04:07 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> Sean, I can't respond fully to your question --  I've not ridden a Clem. I 
> have seen one up close and personal though. RBW describes the Clem as 
> MTB-ish, and the example I saw was an exceptional build; big RH knobbies 
> and polished Paul brakes and levers (I want one just like it!!!).
>
> I find my Platypus to be exactly as Rivendell describes it. Back to your 
> question -- 
> I don't know your wife, but here's the thing with the Platypus, if you 
> think she would appreciate a bicycle that she falls in love with all over 
> again every time she rides it, then go with the Platypus!
>
> Steve in Asheville, NC
>
>
>
> [image: 251A34BC-59A6-4FEA-AA29-F3A25879C6F4.jpeg] if 
> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 5:29:59 PM UTC-5 SeanMac wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone.  Happy New Year!
>>
>> I am the proud owner of a grey Cheviot.  One of the reasons that I 
>> purchased that bike was to ride on bike trails near me (such as the Erie 
>> Canal Trail) with my wife.  She and I have done a bit of riding together.  
>> However, as I am a more experienced cyclists, she sometimes gets frustrated 
>> with me.  Happily, riding my Cheviot has helped me to slow down and enjoy 
>> the ride with her.
>>
>> My wife has been riding a Trek hybrid bike that is at least 30 years 
>> old.  I would love for her to get something new for our rides together.  
>> She is on-board with this idea (much to my delight).  A new Rivendell seems 
>> to be just the ticket to more quality bike time - for her alone and for us 
>> together.  The question, of course, is which model would be the best choice.
>>
>> Given that I have a Cheviot, a Platypus for her was my first suggestion.  
>> I sense that it rides pretty similarly to my Cheviot - plush, stable and 
>> relatively quick once it gets going.  However, my wife was a bit surprised 
>> by the price tag of the Platty, and began to focus on the Clem.  When she 
>> asked why the Clem was less expensive I spoke about the lugs, but didn't 
>> know what else really differentiated the two bikes.  This is why I am 
>> reaching out to the group.
>>
>> I would be grateful if folks on the list who are familiar with both the 
>> Clem and Platypus would provide some additional insight into the 
>> differences between the two models.  I think that either bike would meet my 
>> wife's needs.  However, thoughts on which would best meet those needs are 
>> much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sean
>> Buffalo, NY
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 68cm Toyo Rivendell Atlantis

[Jim A]

Price drop: $2100

Standover height is 940mm at middle of top tube with 700c x 45mm actual 
tires.

Still hoping to sell mostly complete. Let me know what parts combination 
you might want and I can let you know price.

Can be professionally packaged for no cost to buyer, but buyer pays for 
shipping if needed.

Jim
PDX, OR

On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 4:48:37 AM UTC Jim A wrote:

> I believe the 68cm was made only in the initial runs in the early 2000s by 
> Toyo in Japan. 62cm top tube, 44cm chain stays? The geometry sheet exists 
> online, I'm sure you can find it.
>
> This frame was repaired before my time by Rivendell (chain stay), and then 
> a few years ago I had a local professional add internal generator wire 
> capability (inc. a nice continuous brass tube through the fork blade), seat 
> stay pump peg, kickstand plate, hourglass rack mounts on fork blades. The 
> frame was then powder coated British racing green. I can give more 
> information on all of this.
>
> The build is (I think) pretty classic if somewhat nerdy. Nitto noodle bar 
> / Nitto Deluxe stem. 180mm Shimano XT 94/58bcd triple cranks with UN7X 
> square taper BB. SON widebody deluxe front hub, B+M IQ-XS front light and 
> chrome Spanninga rear. 7 speed Ultegra downtube shifters mounted to Kelly 
> Take Offs, Shimano DX 7 speed freehub rear wheel. Ultegra rear derailleur, 
> Suntour front. Velo Orange fluted fenders, Nitto Campee 27F front rack 
> (detachable lowriders included but not pictured) Etc. Etc. I can provide a 
> complete parts list to potential purchasers.
>
> Looking to sell complete or mostly complete at this time. Would prefer 
> local pickup from Portland, Oregon so you can see/test ride, but could also 
> professionally pack and ship at buyer's expense.
>
> Asking $2500 net.
>
> Jim 
> PDX
>
> [image: IMG_2857.JPG][image: IMG_2860.JPG][image: IMG_2859.JPG]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: New 57cm Sergio Green Roadini Frameset

[Brenton Eastman]

Dibs! Sent you an email.

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 4:44:48 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:

> Here is a picture of the partial build. 
>
> On Monday 1 January 2024 at 16:41:35 UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>
>> I purchased this frameset last Oct. and never built it into a complete 
>> bicycle but did place some wheels, stem and a seat post on it to check out 
>> a potential build. With an 89cm PBH I was on the tall side for this frame. 
>> Then Rivendell had a 20% off the A. Homer Hilsen and I went for the 61.5cm 
>> frameset. Now I'm on the short side of sizing but works better for me. The 
>> wheels removed a little paint on the inside of the rear dropouts, otherwise 
>> new condition. Email me directly for more information and photos. $1100  
>> plus shipping from Eugene Oregon. Thanks, Paul
>>
>> st- 57.5cm c-t
>> tt- 59cm c-c effective
>> ht- 205mm
>> wb- 41.5"
>> cs- 44.5cm
>> 100/130mm spacing
>> standover- 33.25"
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Vintage Rivendell hooded sweatshirt

[Eric Marth]

Sold, thank you :o) 

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 2:56:56 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hi all — I have a Rivendell sweatshirt for sale. Asking $45 plus shipping 
> to you. 
>
> It's labeled an XXL, manufactured by the Cotton Bureau, made in USA and 
> 95% cotton, 5% poly. It's heavyweight cotton and very similar to Champion 
> Reverse Weave sweatshirts. 
>
> [image: IMG_9659.JPG]
>
> Laid flat it's 27-1/2" pit to pit and 27-1/2" top of shoulder to bottom 
> hem. It fits a bit smaller than the measurements suggest. I'd say it fits 
> between a large and extra large. It almost works for me but it's a bit 
> long. I'm 5'10" and 175.  
>
> There is some staining and discoloration at the cuffs and collar. It's 
> definitely seen some wear, there are holes at the cuffs and a small hole at 
> the front pocket. Drawstring is missing. 
>
> [image: IMG_9661.JPG]
>
> [image: IMG_9666.JPG]
>
> I think this is from around the early 2000s, I found a listing on the 
> Rivendell site through archive.org date 2004. 
>
> [image: Screenshot 2023-12-27 at 2.22.57 PM.png]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville BagBoy SaddleSack

[Lance Terry]

Bag is sold. Thanks Glen. 

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 2:47:27 PM UTC-7 Glen wrote:

> message sent
>
> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 11:34:13 AM UTC-7 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've had this for about a year or more and only used it a handful of 
>> times. Time to pass it on.
>> $140 plus $15 shipping CONUS. Or pick up in the Denver Area. Thanks 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] ISO 32h dyno hub

[Josh C]

Does anyone happen to have a 32h 100mm dyno hub lying around? Want to 
rebuild the wife's new Platyups front wheel. Silver would be preferred. 
Thanks 

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[RBW] Touring tire & Happy new year

[Bernard Duhon]

I first, wish my biker friends a happy new year!

I am new to the list and enjoy the tales & profit from the advice.

On the touring tire subject I was over thinking it. Just cause I have a great 
set up my touring bike  (26 inch Marathon Supremes)  Doesn't mean the 
Gravelkings sitting in the garage won't do just fine and fresh tires are always 
a good idea.

Happy riding

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[RBW] FS - Two used large canvas saddlebags

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey all, I have a serious bike bag addiction. So, bumping these two fine 
but overlapping ones out of the nest in order to buy more! Both show some 
age and usage, but are in fine condition with no problems. Either will 
serve you well. (I'd put my money on the Carradice outlasting you unless 
you are 20 yrs old!) 
PM me if any questions or comments. And, forgive my cross-posting on 
another list.
Thanks,
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

*FS - Acorn Large Black Waxed Canvas* saddlebag with tan leather straps, 
ca. 2014 (model). I am original owner. Approx. 7L capacity, 15"w x 7"h x 
6"d, 30 oz. / 850 g. In very good shape with a minimum of fade, no scuffs 
or tears. A number of places on the outer flap were pierced for state park 
pins, noticeable outside and inside the flap, upon close inspection. This 
2014 model included a leather standoff to keep bag off the seat post and 
two side pockets with turnbuckle closures. I have priced it at 1/2 the 2014 
price (without shipping costs).
$70, net to me, shipping cost paid by buyer. (From zip 23113) Prefer Zelle 
payment but could do Pay Pal.
Images: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720313738268/

*FS - Carradice Junior Saddlebag*, black canvas, white leather straps. No 
outside pockets on this model. I am original owner of this bag, purchased 
from Harris Cyclery in 2007.  9L capacity, 30cm wide x 18cm high x 15 cm 
deep. Weight, 440g.  A number of places on the outer flap were pierced for 
state park pins, noticeable outside and inside the flap, upon close 
inspection. In very good shape with a minimum of fade and no scuffs or 
tears. The white leather straps show superficial cracking on the outside 
surface, which is usual for all the Carradice bags I have owned. 
$45, net to me, shipping cost paid by buyer. (From zip 23113) Prefer Zelle 
payment but could do Pay Pal.
Images: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720313729416

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[RBW] Re: FS - Two used large canvas saddlebags

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Both saddlebags are spoken for, pending payment. 
Thanks to all on the list.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 10:34:51 AM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Hey all, I have a serious bike bag addiction. So, bumping these two fine 
> but overlapping ones out of the nest in order to buy more! Both show some 
> age and usage, but are in fine condition with no problems. Either will 
> serve you well. (I'd put my money on the Carradice outlasting you unless 
> you are 20 yrs old!) 
> PM me if any questions or comments. And, forgive my cross-posting on 
> another list.
> Thanks,
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> *FS - Acorn Large Black Waxed Canvas* saddlebag with tan leather straps, 
> ca. 2014 (model). I am original owner. Approx. 7L capacity, 15"w x 7"h x 
> 6"d, 30 oz. / 850 g. In very good shape with a minimum of fade, no scuffs 
> or tears. A number of places on the outer flap were pierced for state park 
> pins, noticeable outside and inside the flap, upon close inspection. This 
> 2014 model included a leather standoff to keep bag off the seat post and 
> two side pockets with turnbuckle closures. I have priced it at 1/2 the 2014 
> price (without shipping costs).
> $70, net to me, shipping cost paid by buyer. (From zip 23113) Prefer Zelle 
> payment but could do Pay Pal.
> Images: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720313738268/
>
> *FS - Carradice Junior Saddlebag*, black canvas, white leather straps. No 
> outside pockets on this model. I am original owner of this bag, purchased 
> from Harris Cyclery in 2007.  9L capacity, 30cm wide x 18cm high x 15 cm 
> deep. Weight, 440g.  A number of places on the outer flap were pierced for 
> state park pins, noticeable outside and inside the flap, upon close 
> inspection. In very good shape with a minimum of fade and no scuffs or 
> tears. The white leather straps show superficial cracking on the outside 
> surface, which is usual for all the Carradice bags I have owned. 
> $45, net to me, shipping cost paid by buyer. (From zip 23113) Prefer Zelle 
> payment but could do Pay Pal.
> Images: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720313729416
>
>

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[RBW] Re: ROADINI in South Pasadena

[Ted Durant]

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 5:21:42 PM UTC-6 Neale S. wrote:

 from Glassell Park, hope to see you out there. Sounds like we need 
another L.A. Riv Ride soon.


I will be in San Gabriel 2/11-2/17 and my West Coast Sam would enjoy 
meeting some relatives.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA 

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[RBW] Re: Berthoud Decaleur

[RichS]

Ron,

Thank you for posting this. I have always like the Berthoud decaleur; good 
to know they're available. Might be time time to lose the cords that attach 
to the drops on my hbars. Also, great looking handlebar/bag setup and a 
gorgeous Mercian!

Happy New Year!
Rich in ATL 

On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 7:55:40 PM UTC-5 Ron Mc wrote:

> Hi, 
> Haven't posted here in awhile, but this group ought to appreciate the 
> heads up.  
> Berthoud decaleur is back in stock in all varitions - it's been absent for 
> 10 years.  
> I just ordered one I need, horizontal stem bolt and 90-mm reach.  
> Their Christmas sale was still in effect today - free DHL Express from 
> France.  
> With VAT subtracted, mine is coming home for 97 euro.  
>
> https://berthoudcycles.fr/en/883-899-handlebar-bag-decaleur.html#/186-length-50mm/187-stem_type-ahead_4_bolt_faceplate
>
> IMO, best decaleur design ever.  
> [image: tSF2Er6.jpg]
>
> Since I'm here, my '85  Mercian, Gran Compe CPs with Ene-mini 
> front-brake-bolt rack and Berthoud Singer mini front bag.  
> [image: a8PA290006.JPG]
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

[Kim H.]

There is another related thread about this:
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/ho2ri9Tm6jQ/m/mVKYtqAIAQAJ

Kim Hetzel.

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 4:52:04 PM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I used the word perhaps a LOT of times there
>
> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 7:51:39 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>>
>> For the type of riding you describe either will work. Since it is for her 
>> she should go with whichever speaks to her more. Perhaps a higher price 
>> will make her treat it more delicately and perhaps ride it less OR perhaps 
>> because the Platy is fancier she will wan to ride it much more. Either way 
>> there is no wrong answer as far as quality of product or ride.
>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 7:04:07 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Sean, I can't respond fully to your question --  I've not ridden a Clem. 
>>> I have seen one up close and personal though. RBW describes the Clem as 
>>> MTB-ish, and the example I saw was an exceptional build; big RH knobbies 
>>> and polished Paul brakes and levers (I want one just like it!!!).
>>>
>>> I find my Platypus to be exactly as Rivendell describes it. Back to your 
>>> question -- 
>>> I don't know your wife, but here's the thing with the Platypus, if you 
>>> think she would appreciate a bicycle that she falls in love with all over 
>>> again every time she rides it, then go with the Platypus!
>>>
>>> Steve in Asheville, NC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: 251A34BC-59A6-4FEA-AA29-F3A25879C6F4.jpeg] if 
>>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 5:29:59 PM UTC-5 SeanMac wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone.  Happy New Year!

 I am the proud owner of a grey Cheviot.  One of the reasons that I 
 purchased that bike was to ride on bike trails near me (such as the Erie 
 Canal Trail) with my wife.  She and I have done a bit of riding together.  
 However, as I am a more experienced cyclists, she sometimes gets 
 frustrated 
 with me.  Happily, riding my Cheviot has helped me to slow down and enjoy 
 the ride with her.

 My wife has been riding a Trek hybrid bike that is at least 30 years 
 old.  I would love for her to get something new for our rides together.  
 She is on-board with this idea (much to my delight).  A new Rivendell 
 seems 
 to be just the ticket to more quality bike time - for her alone and for us 
 together.  The question, of course, is which model would be the best 
 choice.

 Given that I have a Cheviot, a Platypus for her was my first 
 suggestion.  I sense that it rides pretty similarly to my Cheviot - plush, 
 stable and relatively quick once it gets going.  However, my wife was a 
 bit 
 surprised by the price tag of the Platty, and began to focus on the Clem.  
 When she asked why the Clem was less expensive I spoke about the lugs, but 
 didn't know what else really differentiated the two bikes.  This is why I 
 am reaching out to the group.

 I would be grateful if folks on the list who are familiar with both the 
 Clem and Platypus would provide some additional insight into the 
 differences between the two models.  I think that either bike would meet 
 my 
 wife's needs.  However, thoughts on which would best meet those needs are 
 much appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Sean
 Buffalo, NY

>>>

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