Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control
I can help with this as Michael built something similar to what I designed and installed in 2001: I plumbed small irrigation sprayers every ~15' around the perimeter of my buildings under the eaves. This wets down the perimeter of the structures, particularly the combustion zone where the building meets the ground. Roof mounted sprayers leave a vulnerable dry gap between the drip edge and the building. Under eave sprayers wet this area and the siding. I have 40 of these sprayers which maxes out my well pump at 35 PSI/~15 gallons a minute creating a rainstorm of water around the 8 buildings they are plumbed on. My GVFX-3648 is easily capable of operating the well pump during a grid outage. I also have window shutters and metal roofs. I use this to activate the solenoid valve from my phone if I am gone: [ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06X6NBDFW ]( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06X6NBDFW ) It is controlled by this phone application: [ https://ewelink.cc/ ]( https://ewelink.cc/ )[ ]( https://ewelink.cc/ ) It is perplexing why Cal Fire and others do not test and recommend these kinds of systems. The best answer I have been able to come up with is they fear people prepared like this would have a tendency to "stay and defend" their homes rather than evacuating. Todd On Monday, March 13, 2023 6:37pm, "Ray Walters via RE-wrenches" said: Michael; Can you share more about your sprinkler system and the power supply for it? Over the years, at least two of my customers have lost their homes (and PV arrays) in wild fires. Ray Walters Remote Solar On 3/13/2023 2:34 PM, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote: WebRelay. I use one to turn off my WEEDS (Wind Enabled Ember Dousing System) sprinkler system via a 12V solenoid Sent from Finest Planet WebMail. ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control
Sure thing. Todd Cory turned me on to this. Thanks Todd! chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/ https://www.7thgenerationdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/fire-WEEDS.pdf I spaced sprayers 3' from corners, and then every 8' My hydro penstock feeds 10K gallons of buried concrete cisterns that sit 400' above my home. They supply the WEEDS system. When the system is activated, it uses about 30GPM. I also have a diesel water pump that drafts off of a year round creek that will "backfeed" the water supply. It is activated by a WebRelay also. Each year I invite our local wildland fire crews up and get them familiarized with the system (It can be manually actuated) and the locations of two other steel 10K tanks w/ hose reels, situated by our shops. I also have cell phone surveillance cameras, one on a mountain above us that is dialed into our drainage, and one looking out the rear door, where a fire would be coming from. This is so that if I'm out in the field and a fire takes off, either myself, family, friends, or neighbors that get notice of a fire can take a look at the camera feeds and start the system if need be. It's a sight to behold. The entire house is enveloped in a vertical wall of water. I'm including a picture showing the line circling the eaves. Not shown, are the 6" brass nipples w/ shrub heads which I was reinstalling last Spring. I remove them each fall so snow doesn't tear them off. Pro tip: There are only two manufacturers of brass shrub sprayers that offer a flat 360 pattern. Arrow and Orbit. The Orbit's are garbage. [image: sprinkler Small.jpeg] On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:37 PM Ray Walters via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Michael; > > Can you share more about your sprinkler system and the power supply for > it? Over the years, at least two of my customers have lost their homes > (and PV arrays) in wild fires. > > Ray Walters > Remote Solar > On 3/13/2023 2:34 PM, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote: > > WebRelay. I use one to turn off my WEEDS (Wind Enabled Ember Dousing > System) sprinkler system via a 12V solenoid > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:22 PM Starlight via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > >> >> https://www.amazon.com/Solenoid-Control-Wireless-Contact-T-Mobile/dp/B07Q7PKW5Z?th=1 >> >> Larry Crutcher >> Starlight Solar Power Systems >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 13, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches < >> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >> >> Hi all >> >> Any recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay? >> >> Would be off grid. There is 12v already there. >> I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex pump, only a dry dpst >> contact is required. >> >> Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so that >> one could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jay >> ___ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> >> ___ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> > > -- > > Michael Morningstar > > > Morningstar Electric > > PO Box 1494 > > Mount Shasta, CA 96067 > > 530-921-0560 > > mjmornings...@gmail.com > > > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & > settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other:https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >
Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control
Michael; Can you share more about your sprinkler system and the power supply for it? Over the years, at least two of my customers have lost their homes (and PV arrays) in wild fires. Ray Walters Remote Solar On 3/13/2023 2:34 PM, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote: WebRelay. I use one to turn off my WEEDS (Wind Enabled Ember Dousing System) sprinkler system via a 12V solenoid On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:22 PM Starlight via RE-wrenches wrote: https://www.amazon.com/Solenoid-Control-Wireless-Contact-T-Mobile/dp/B07Q7PKW5Z?th=1 Larry Crutcher Starlight Solar Power Systems On Mar 13, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote: Hi all Any recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay? Would be off grid. There is 12v already there. I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex pump, only a dry dpst contact is required. Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so that one could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc. Thanks Jay ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org -- Michael Morningstar Morningstar Electric PO Box 1494 Mount Shasta, CA 96067 530-921-0560 mjmornings...@gmail.com ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here:http://re-wrenches.org List Address:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control
Hi allI guess I didn’t use the right terminology for my question. I’m looking for a cell phone controlled relay at the remote site that can be controlled via the computer at my desk or an app. There is no local network or internet at the remote site, just cell service. The one Larry suggested looks good and I’ll check it out more. ThxJayOn Mar 13, 2023, at 2:35 PM, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote:WebRelay. I use one to turn off my WEEDS (Wind Enabled Ember Dousing System) sprinkler system via a 12V solenoidOn Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:22 PM Starlight via RE-wrencheswrote:https://www.amazon.com/Solenoid-Control-Wireless-Contact-T-Mobile/dp/B07Q7PKW5Z?th=1Larry CrutcherStarlight Solar Power Systems On Mar 13, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote:Hi allAny recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay?Would be off grid. There is 12v already there. I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex pump, only a dry dpst contact is required. Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so that one could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc. Thanks Jay___List sponsored by Redwood AlliancePay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.orgList Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.orgChange listserver email address & settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgThere are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgList rules & etiquette:http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htmCheck out or update participant bios:http://www.members.re-wrenches.org___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org -- Michael MorningstarMorningstar ElectricPO Box 1494Mount Shasta, CA 96067530-921-0560mjmornings...@gmail.com ___List sponsored by Redwood AlliancePay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.orgList Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.orgChange listserver email address & settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgThere are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgList rules & etiquette:http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htmCheck out or update participant bios:http://www.members.re-wrenches.org___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control
WebRelay. I use one to turn off my WEEDS (Wind Enabled Ember Dousing System) sprinkler system via a 12V solenoid On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:22 PM Starlight via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > https://www.amazon.com/Solenoid-Control-Wireless-Contact-T-Mobile/dp/B07Q7PKW5Z?th=1 > > Larry Crutcher > Starlight Solar Power Systems > > > > > On Mar 13, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > Hi all > > Any recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay? > > Would be off grid. There is 12v already there. > I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex pump, only a dry dpst > contact is required. > > Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so that one > could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc. > > Thanks > > Jay > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > -- Michael Morningstar Morningstar Electric PO Box 1494 Mount Shasta, CA 96067 530-921-0560 mjmornings...@gmail.com ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control
https://www.amazon.com/Solenoid-Control-Wireless-Contact-T-Mobile/dp/B07Q7PKW5Z?th=1 Larry Crutcher Starlight Solar Power Systems On Mar 13, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote: Hi all Any recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay? Would be off grid. There is 12v already there. I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex pump, only a dry dpst contact is required. Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so that one could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc. Thanks Jay ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control
Jay: Control by Web. <https://www.controlbyweb.com/> The hardware is robust. You can write code or use built-in functions. There is a smart-pone app or you can interface by browser. Here <https://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/Portfolio/Commercial/Cal_Trans/Remote/Remote_Control.html> is a link to a job we did with CBW equipment. William Miller Solar 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422 805-438-5600 www.millersolar.com CA Lic. 773985 -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jay via RE-wrenches Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 12:48 PM To: RE-wrenches Cc: Jay Subject: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control Hi all Any recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay? Would be off grid. There is 12v already there. I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex pump, only a dry dpst contact is required. Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so that one could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc. Thanks Jay ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control
Hi all Any recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay? Would be off grid. There is 12v already there. I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex pump, only a dry dpst contact is required. Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so that one could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc. Thanks Jay ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org