Re: Another item to add to your list perhaps?
On 23.09.07 18:19:40, Matt Rogers wrote: > On Sunday 23 September 2007 15:12:20 Andreas Pakulat wrote: > > On 23.09.07 14:26:04, Troy Unrau wrote: > > > Hey guys, perhaps this should go on your list at > > > http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Beta_Goals > > > > > > KWin Composite has performance issues (big ones) on hardware where > > > other 3D compositing programs run perfectly smoothly. Perhaps we just > > > need to optimize for some hardware or something, and it's not a > > > showstopper (since composite can be disabled), but it will ruin a lot > > > of first impressions of KWin 4 in it's current state. > > > > Speaking about kwin: > > > > Not necessarily for the beta-goals, but for the final release somebody > > should sit down and fix the xinerama issues in kwin as well. I'm rather > > astonished that xinerama is basically completely broken, because I was > > under the impression that the "standard" kwin code didn't change that > > much (i.e. the non-compositing stuff)... > > How do you propose we do that when few, if any, of the kwin developers use > xinerama? This belongs to a kwin list really, but they should have at least a remote idea what they changed that completely broke xinerama - I'm not only talking about windows not being on the screen where I want them. I'm talking about menus always popping up on the first screen, no matter where the application window is and about KWin not even knowing there are more than 1 screens attached. Andreas, who will now subscribe to yet another ML just to get a usable KDE4.0 -- Your business will go through a period of considerable expansion. ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: Goals for the beta release.
A Diumenge 23 Setembre 2007, Tom Albers va escriure: > Hi, > > As discussed in a thread last week, here is an overview of goals for the > beta cycle: > > http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Beta_Goals > > As soon as all is green we can continue to the release candidate cycle. > > I will update the page as soon as I receive the info from the remaining > projects. > > Toma In my opinion we should add having SSL/https support (Which thiago says we don't have at the moment) Albert ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: Another item to add to your list perhaps?
On Sunday 23 September 2007 15:12:20 Andreas Pakulat wrote: > On 23.09.07 14:26:04, Troy Unrau wrote: > > Hey guys, perhaps this should go on your list at > > http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Beta_Goals > > > > KWin Composite has performance issues (big ones) on hardware where > > other 3D compositing programs run perfectly smoothly. Perhaps we just > > need to optimize for some hardware or something, and it's not a > > showstopper (since composite can be disabled), but it will ruin a lot > > of first impressions of KWin 4 in it's current state. > > Speaking about kwin: > > Not necessarily for the beta-goals, but for the final release somebody > should sit down and fix the xinerama issues in kwin as well. I'm rather > astonished that xinerama is basically completely broken, because I was > under the impression that the "standard" kwin code didn't change that > much (i.e. the non-compositing stuff)... > > Andreas How do you propose we do that when few, if any, of the kwin developers use xinerama? -- Matt ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: Another item to add to your list perhaps?
On 23.09.07 14:26:04, Troy Unrau wrote: > Hey guys, perhaps this should go on your list at > http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Beta_Goals > > KWin Composite has performance issues (big ones) on hardware where > other 3D compositing programs run perfectly smoothly. Perhaps we just > need to optimize for some hardware or something, and it's not a > showstopper (since composite can be disabled), but it will ruin a lot > of first impressions of KWin 4 in it's current state. Speaking about kwin: Not necessarily for the beta-goals, but for the final release somebody should sit down and fix the xinerama issues in kwin as well. I'm rather astonished that xinerama is basically completely broken, because I was under the impression that the "standard" kwin code didn't change that much (i.e. the non-compositing stuff)... Andreas -- It's lucky you're going so slowly, because you're going in the wrong direction. ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Another item to add to your list perhaps?
Hey guys, perhaps this should go on your list at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Beta_Goals KWin Composite has performance issues (big ones) on hardware where other 3D compositing programs run perfectly smoothly. Perhaps we just need to optimize for some hardware or something, and it's not a showstopper (since composite can be disabled), but it will ruin a lot of first impressions of KWin 4 in it's current state. Cheers folks -- Troy Unrau Geophysics Student - University of Manitoba KDE Gearhead ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Goals for the beta release.
Hi, As discussed in a thread last week, here is an overview of goals for the beta cycle: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Beta_Goals As soon as all is green we can continue to the release candidate cycle. I will update the page as soon as I receive the info from the remaining projects. Toma___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: Tagging beta 3.
Hello; > I just wanted to let you know that currently there is no panel and no start > menu. That means everything has to be done by krunner. A lot of plasma > applets I tried made plasma crash and alt-tab was barely usable. I know > kde4 is about much more that plasma, but the user experience is currently > not very good. In my opinion it would be a mistake to tag KDE in this > state. And I'm almost crying when I say this. Yes I agree with you, for next beta having a menu to launch other KDE4 applications is a must have. And about KDE4 is much more that plasma, it's also the only thing an user might be able to test if he doesn't have the sense to right-click on the desktop. My first attempt to run KDE4 desktop was with last beta, and at first I couldn't find how to launch application, so I just played with a few applets and that's all. Last week I tried again (with my own build), that's only then I found out that right click on the desktop allows me to run an application (I know that's also the case in KDE3, but I never use kdesktop's popup menu). So, I wonder how many people try KDE4's beta and didn't know how to launch applications, and just played with plasma (and probably found it nice), and so couldn't even try other applications (which is a shame as quiet a few are nearly ready, I am thinking kdegames and kdeedu). -- Cyrille Berger ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: Tagging beta 3.
Am Sonntag, 23. September 2007 16:58 schrieb Mario Fux: Good morning [snip] > So if you think I could help anywhere in the communication and coordination > process I'd love to help and so finally me whole "kde mailinglist > subscription fullness" would be of any use ;-). I think this sentence is barely understandable: I meant: my whole "kde mailinglist subscription foolness"... [snip] griits Mario ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: Tagging beta 3.
Am Sonntag, 23. September 2007 14:31 schrieb Tom Albers: > Hi, Good morning I'm lurking on this list since some time (approx. March this year) and several other KDE lists and I think that my overview over your release and tagging process is not that bad and hope the following will be seen as constructive criticism (considering my bad english as well ;-). I appreciate your work very much and if you think I'm too harsh or something like this, just ignore me. > In an effort to see how things look just before the tagging (beta 3 is > planned to be tagged the 26th), I checked out and build KDE4. > > I just wanted to let you know that currently there is no panel and no start > menu. That means everything has to be done by krunner. A lot of plasma > applets I tried made plasma crash and alt-tab was barely usable. I know > kde4 is about much more that plasma, but the user experience is currently > not very good. In my opinion it would be a mistake to tag KDE in this > state. And I'm almost crying when I say this. There are always the same or similar things before a release. Some particular things which are needed don't work. It's recognized here on this list but seldomly communicated to the corresponding project or its mailinglist respectively. I think there should from time to time some better and more coordinated communication which means e.g. for this case the you (we) communicate this problem to the Plasma project and see what they think about it and what they can do to solve "our" problem. As you see I sometimes wrote "we" or "our" which means that I would be willing and like to help in this particular communication work. I'm subscribed to the following mailinglist which I think I can estimate the current status of these projects: - kde-announce - kde-core-devel (don't have a full overview) - kde-devel (same as above) - kde-edu (more or less overview) - kde-hardware-devel (overview, atm low traffic) - kde-multimedia (overview, atm low traffic) - kde-pim (more or less overview) - kde-promo (more or less overview) - kde-quality (more or less overview) - kde-release-team (overview) - kde-windows (more or less overview) - kfm-devel (more or less overview) - koffice-devel (more or less overview) - panel-devel (plasma, more or less overview) In general I think I have a quite good overview over the current project state even if it's quite superficial (and not that technical). So if you think I could help anywhere in the communication and coordination process I'd love to help and so finally me whole "kde mailinglist subscription fullness" would be of any use ;-). My first work could be the communication with the plasma project about what they think of the panel and kmenu stuff. > Best, > Toma Griits from Switzerland and thanks for everything ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Tagging beta 3.
Hi, In an effort to see how things look just before the tagging (beta 3 is planned to be tagged the 26th), I checked out and build KDE4. I just wanted to let you know that currently there is no panel and no start menu. That means everything has to be done by krunner. A lot of plasma applets I tried made plasma crash and alt-tab was barely usable. I know kde4 is about much more that plasma, but the user experience is currently not very good. In my opinion it would be a mistake to tag KDE in this state. And I'm almost crying when I say this. Best, Toma___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: KDE 3.5.8
Am Sonntag 23 September 2007 schrieb Albert Astals Cid: > A Divendres 21 Setembre 2007, Stephan Kulow va escriure: > > Hi! > > > > It's been a while since KDE 3.5.7 (released may 22nd) and a lot has > > changed in the 3.5 branch since then, so I would like to release another > > service pack. > > > > As the translators requested some clean up time, I suggest we go with > > October 7th as tagging date and release on 15th. > > > > Any objections? If not, I let everyone know :) > > As a matter of saying "i agree" i created the changelog page up to r715588 > > http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_7to3_5_8.php > Wow. Thanks for an impressive argument to do the release :) Greetings, Stephan ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
Re: KDE 3.5.8
A Divendres 21 Setembre 2007, Stephan Kulow va escriure: > Hi! > > It's been a while since KDE 3.5.7 (released may 22nd) and a lot has changed > in the 3.5 branch since then, so I would like to release another service > pack. > > As the translators requested some clean up time, I suggest we go with > October 7th as tagging date and release on 15th. > > Any objections? If not, I let everyone know :) As a matter of saying "i agree" i created the changelog page up to r715588 http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_7to3_5_8.php Albert P.S: We should hide it in few time or pages will start linking to it saying 3.5.8 is out, though. > > Greetings, Stephan > ___ > release-team mailing list > release-team@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
