Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-03-05 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Friday 02 of March 2012 13:35:24 Dirk Mueller wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 February 2012, Harald Sitter wrote:
> > Phonon only does xz tarballs, so dep-wise xz is required anyway... you
> > might just as well do the kde release tars in xz too ;)
> 
> I'm fine with switching to xz. anyone having a problem with that?



Please do so.



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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-03-02 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Friday 02 March 2012 18:45:15 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El Divendres, 2 de març de 2012, a les 13:35:24, Dirk Mueller va escriure:
> > On Tuesday 28 February 2012, Harald Sitter wrote:
> > > Phonon only does xz tarballs, so dep-wise xz is required anyway... you
> > > might just as well do the kde release tars in xz too ;)
> > 
> > I'm fine with switching to xz. anyone having a problem with that?
> 
> I feel that switching from gz to xz from 4.8.0 to 4.8.1 is a bit weird.
> 
> But if packagers like it...

Wearing my Debian hat I have no problems with it.

Personally I have the same weird feeling as Albert. But don't let that stop 
progress this time.

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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-03-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Friday 02 March 2012, Eric Hameleers wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Mar 2012, Dirk Mueller wrote:
> > On Tuesday 28 February 2012, Harald Sitter wrote:
> >> Phonon only does xz tarballs, so dep-wise xz is required anyway... you
> >> might just as well do the kde release tars in xz too ;)
> > 
> > I'm fine with switching to xz. anyone having a problem with that?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Dirk
> 
> Slackware's preferred archive compression is xz. So, you have my
> blessing.

Same in Fedora. The order of preference is xz > bz2 > gz (the smaller, the 
better, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SourceURL , so in 
practice we'll normally want xz, and it's also what our binary RPMs use).

Kevin Kofler
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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-03-02 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Divendres, 2 de març de 2012, a les 13:35:24, Dirk Mueller va escriure:
> On Tuesday 28 February 2012, Harald Sitter wrote:
> > Phonon only does xz tarballs, so dep-wise xz is required anyway... you
> > might just as well do the kde release tars in xz too ;)
> 
> I'm fine with switching to xz. anyone having a problem with that?

I feel that switching from gz to xz from 4.8.0 to 4.8.1 is a bit weird.

But if packagers like it...

Albert

> 
> Thanks,
> Dirk
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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-03-02 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Friday 02 March 2012 05:44:52 Eric Hameleers wrote:
> Slackware's preferred archive compression is xz. So, you have my 
> blessing.
Same in Arch. +1 for xz

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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-03-02 Thread Rex Dieter

On 03/02/2012 06:35 AM, Dirk Mueller wrote:

On Tuesday 28 February 2012, Harald Sitter wrote:


Phonon only does xz tarballs, so dep-wise xz is required anyway... you
might just as well do the kde release tars in xz too ;)


I'm fine with switching to xz. anyone having a problem with that?


no objection

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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-03-02 Thread Eric Hameleers

On Fri, 2 Mar 2012, Dirk Mueller wrote:


On Tuesday 28 February 2012, Harald Sitter wrote:


Phonon only does xz tarballs, so dep-wise xz is required anyway... you
might just as well do the kde release tars in xz too ;)


I'm fine with switching to xz. anyone having a problem with that?

Thanks,
Dirk


Slackware's preferred archive compression is xz. So, you have my 
blessing.


Cheers, Eric

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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-03-02 Thread Dirk Mueller
On Tuesday 28 February 2012, Harald Sitter wrote:

> Phonon only does xz tarballs, so dep-wise xz is required anyway... you
> might just as well do the kde release tars in xz too ;)

I'm fine with switching to xz. anyone having a problem with that?

Thanks,
Dirk
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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-02-27 Thread Harald Sitter
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Philip Muskovac  wrote:
> More than splitting the package, I would rather like to have a sane
> compression applied to it

+1

Phonon only does xz tarballs, so dep-wise xz is required anyway... you
might just as well do the kde release tars in xz too ;)

HS
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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-02-27 Thread Philip Muskovac

On 02/27/2012 01:20 AM, Max Brazhnikov wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:47:11 +0100, Sune Vuorela wrote:

On Sunday 26 February 2012 23:29:37 Max Brazhnikov wrote:

Does debian's oxygen-icon-theme package, which contains only png icons,
violate the license?


No. just like debian's systemsettings package, which contains compiled code
also doesn't violate the license.


Why oxygen-icons split on two tarballs, one with png icons and another with svg 
only, will violate the license, while systemsettings debian package + 
kde-workspaces source tarball don't?


In both cases, the sources is a apt-get source away. In both cases you get the
tarball created by Dirk


What's the difference then?


that's hopefully obvious.


Not for me apparently :). Could you clarify it or point me at good explanation?


/Sune



More than splitting the package, I would rather like to have a sane 
compression applied to it

as I mentioned previously:
359M oxygen-icons-4.8.0.tar.bz2
203M oxygen-icons-4.8.0.tar.xz

using xz -9 cuts of "just" 156M for me. Such a huge tarball is a bit of 
a pain to handle, even if I agree with Sune that having all icons in one 
place is handy.


Philip
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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-02-26 Thread Max Brazhnikov
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:47:11 +0100, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On Sunday 26 February 2012 23:29:37 Max Brazhnikov wrote:
> > Does debian's oxygen-icon-theme package, which contains only png icons,
> > violate the license? 
> 
> No. just like debian's systemsettings package, which contains compiled code 
> also doesn't violate the license.

Why oxygen-icons split on two tarballs, one with png icons and another with svg 
only, will violate the license, while systemsettings debian package + 
kde-workspaces source tarball don't?

> In both cases, the sources is a apt-get source away. In both cases you get 
> the 
> tarball created by Dirk
> 
> > What's the difference then?
> 
> that's hopefully obvious.

Not for me apparently :). Could you clarify it or point me at good explanation?

> /Sune
> 

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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-02-26 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Sunday 26 February 2012 23:29:37 Max Brazhnikov wrote:
> Does debian's oxygen-icon-theme package, which contains only png icons,
> violate the license? 

No. just like debian's systemsettings package, which contains compiled code 
also doesn't violate the license.

In both cases, the sources is a apt-get source away. In both cases you get the 
tarball created by Dirk

> What's the difference then?

that's hopefully obvious.

/Sune
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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-02-26 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Sunday 26 February 2012 21:24:16 Max Brazhnikov wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can you please stop packing scalable icons or pack them in a separate
> tarball? They are not needed for building anyway and downloading them is
> just a waste of time, bandwidth and disk space for those who build KDE
> from sources.
They're needed for license compliance, and it is really nice that they are in 
the same source tarball like the rest. Please keep it this way.

/Sune
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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-02-26 Thread Max Brazhnikov
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:39:48 +0100, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On Sunday 26 February 2012 21:24:16 Max Brazhnikov wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Can you please stop packing scalable icons or pack them in a separate
> > tarball? They are not needed for building anyway and downloading them is
> > just a waste of time, bandwidth and disk space for those who build KDE
> > from sources.
> They're needed for license compliance, and it is really nice that they are in 
> the same source tarball like the rest. Please keep it this way.
> 
> /Sune
> 

Does debian's oxygen-icon-theme package, which contains only png icons, violate 
the license? What's the difference then?
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Re: Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-02-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
On Sunday 26 February 2012, Max Brazhnikov wrote:
> Can you please stop packing scalable icons or pack them in a separate
> tarball? They are not needed for building anyway and downloading them is
> just a waste of time, bandwidth and disk space for those who build KDE
> from sources.

This has already been discussed and rejected (the SVGs are the source code, 
they have to be shipped to comply with the license), please read the mailing 
list archives.

Kevin Kofler
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Request for splitting oxygen-icons tarball

2012-02-26 Thread Max Brazhnikov
Hi,

Can you please stop packing scalable icons or pack them in a separate tarball? 
They are not needed for building anyway and downloading them is just a waste of 
time, bandwidth and disk space for those who build KDE from sources.

Thanks,
Max


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