[sage-support] Re: mathjax big braces not rendering properly on sagenb nor publishing properly

2012-01-29 Thread LFS
Thanks! Both of these tips are very important to me so extra thanks.
Linda

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[sage-support] Re: mathjax big braces not rendering properly on sagenb nor publishing properly

2012-01-28 Thread LFS
Found problem. The mathjax works great if all equations are properly
input!

However in sage editor, if you have an open span tag and you edit
before the end /span tag, it will sometimes do a dreamweaver thing
of closing the spantag and reopening it. You cannot see this in the
editor.
This may happen even if you are inside jsmath / mathjax delimiters.

So then you get span tags INSIDE your equation.  In jsmath, this
still renders properly, in mathjax it does not.

Recommendation: Do not edit equations in editor. ALWAYS edit in html
mode. (I have had similar problem in wikispaces too.)




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[sage-support] Re: mathjax big braces not rendering properly on sagenb nor publishing properly

2012-01-28 Thread LFS
Just adding one more comment for search purposes:

If you see your equation being cut off from text field into sage
field, it means your translator is using 3 braces in a row {{{

Sage interprets {{{ as the beginning of a sage field. So check your
translation.

I had this problem using my equation editor mathjax translator. I
FINALLY figured out the problem.
It had translated the arc length function as sqrt {{{\dot x}^2} +
{{\dot y}^2} + {{\dot z}^2}} .   Notice the 3 braces in a row.

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[sage-support] Re: mathjax big braces not rendering properly on sagenb nor publishing properly

2012-01-28 Thread Jason Grout

On 1/27/12 1:39 PM, LFS wrote:

Yeah - thot that might be cryptic after I posted. Hard to write in
this forum. Editors tend to try to help you.
I would NOT worry unless someone else complains since:
* I have been moving stuff from the sagenb site to the canterbury site
and now back again. Each has different editors. The canterbury editor
has limited html options.
* I tend to color my text usingspan  tags. The canterbury site had
some problems with that (e.g. it would ignore aspan  tag followed by
astrong  tag).
* I am working with vectors and the (now standard) notation for
vectors is usinga,b,c  and of course html uses  and  as tags.
* I am an interminable reviser which drives editors crazy.
=
Anyway what happened is:span  tags were added  inside  the mathjax
code:

Example: $x=2$  became $xspan=2$.

jsmath would ignore this addition and process, mathjax would not.
You could not see this addition in the editor, only in the html and of
course my latex was much, much more complex than this example 



I'm trying to understand.  So someone (not sage notebook) was adding a 
span to the tex?  Well, if I typed $xspan=2$, I'd expect it to be 
interpreted as x less than span greater than equal 2.  If you want to 
color output, I think using the latex color package inside the dollar 
signs (which is supposed to be latex) would be better.




=
This MAY have been the ONLY problem, but (a) I don't know when they
got added and (b) other editing was happening.
=
For sure, the test.sagenb editor does this:
For, I always write \lt which is latex for the less than symbol. The
editor changes this tolt; which is html for this symbol.

 Arrays in latex have  between the elements in a row. The editor
 changes this toamp;

When I type $x\lt y$ in a text cell, then look at the html by clicking 
on the Edit button on the right side of the worksheet, I see:


p$x\lt y$/p

When I type

p$\begin{matrix} 3 amp; 4 \\ 5 amp; 6\end{matrix}$/p

But that's okay; Mathjax correctly recognizes amp; as a latex .  In 
fact, that is what has to happen, since the browser will get confused 
with the  if that occurs in the html.




=
However, these replacements seem to work in mathjax, but I really wish
editors did not want to help me :)


It sounds like you may want to either click on the HTML button in the 
editor, or just go to the edit view of the worksheet that lets you 
just type in straight html.  Then no editor is getting in the way.


But be aware that you have to encode ampersands as amp; and  as lt; 
(or \lt, of course), since otherwise the browser will get all confused 
when trying to render the html.


Thanks,

Jason

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[sage-support] Re: mathjax big braces not rendering properly on sagenb nor publishing properly

2012-01-28 Thread Jason Grout

On 1/28/12 4:56 AM, LFS wrote:

Just adding one more comment for search purposes:

If you see your equation being cut off from text field into sage
field, it means your translator is using 3 braces in a row {{{

Sage interprets {{{ as the beginning of a sage field. So check your
translation.

I had this problem using my equation editor mathjax translator. I
FINALLY figured out the problem.
It had translated the arc length function as sqrt {{{\dot x}^2} +
{{\dot y}^2} + {{\dot z}^2}} .   Notice the 3 braces in a row.



Yes; this has bit me before too.  Putting a space between two of the 
braces works, IIRC.


By the way, earlier today I was looking at your worksheets, and they 
look fantastic!


I did note on one worksheet that you defined a vector-valued function 
like this: r=vector((t,t^2,t^3)).  You can also define a vector-valued 
function like this:


r(t)=(t,t^2,t^3).

Thanks,

Jason


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[sage-support] Re: mathjax big braces not rendering properly on sagenb nor publishing properly

2012-01-27 Thread Jason Grout

On 1/27/12 8:34 AM, LFS wrote:

Hiya - we are looking at an array inside big left brace ...

On my wikispaces page (you have to open the + details ...), big brace
renders properly.
http://sagemath.wikispaces.com/Surface+integral+function

However
On the sagenb page, you get encoding problems: http://sagenb.org/home/pub/4147/
 (you get top, middle and bottom; sometimes you lose
these too).

Couple of ideas (caveat: I know NOTHING, please forgive if stupid).
Latest mathjax hub thing not done.
Encoding problem.


Mathjax is not used on sagenb.org (jsmath is there), but it *is* 
experimentally used on test.sagenb.org.  Can you try on test.sagenb.org?


Thanks,

Jason



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[sage-support] Re: mathjax big braces not rendering properly on sagenb nor publishing properly

2012-01-27 Thread LFS
Hiya Jason
Thanks Jason for reply!

http://test.sagenb.org/home/pub/27

Everything seems to work fine.
However, I had to go into the html and fix it a zillion times. I
highly recommend keeping the html as simple as possible and always
COPYING IT (not the WYSIWYG since sagenb editor seems to add tags that
mathjax cannot understand (and you don't see here, but do see in the
html)).

On Jan 27, 4:04 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
 On 1/27/12 8:34 AM, LFS wrote:

  Hiya - we are looking at an array inside big left brace ...

  On my wikispaces page (you have to open the + details ...), big brace
  renders properly.
     http://sagemath.wikispaces.com/Surface+integral+function

  However
  On the sagenb page, you get encoding 
  problems:http://sagenb.org/home/pub/4147/
                   (you get top, middle and bottom; sometimes you lose
  these too).

  Couple of ideas (caveat: I know NOTHING, please forgive if stupid).
      Latest mathjax hub thing not done.
      Encoding problem.

 Mathjax is not used on sagenb.org (jsmath is there), but it *is*
 experimentally used on test.sagenb.org.  Can you try on test.sagenb.org?

 Thanks,

 Jason

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[sage-support] Re: mathjax big braces not rendering properly on sagenb nor publishing properly

2012-01-27 Thread Jason Grout

On 1/27/12 11:11 AM, LFS wrote:

Hiya Jason
Thanks Jason for reply!

http://test.sagenb.org/home/pub/27

Everything seems to work fine.
However, I had to go into the html and fix it a zillion times. I
highly recommend keeping the html as simple as possible and always
COPYING IT (not the WYSIWYG since sagenb editor seems to add tags that
mathjax cannot understand (and you don't see here, but do see in the
html)).




I don't understand what you mean in those last few sentences.  Can you 
give an example of what was happening?


Thanks,

Jason

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[sage-support] Re: mathjax big braces not rendering properly on sagenb nor publishing properly

2012-01-27 Thread LFS
Yeah - thot that might be cryptic after I posted. Hard to write in
this forum. Editors tend to try to help you.
I would NOT worry unless someone else complains since:
* I have been moving stuff from the sagenb site to the canterbury site
and now back again. Each has different editors. The canterbury editor
has limited html options.
* I tend to color my text using span tags. The canterbury site had
some problems with that (e.g. it would ignore a span tag followed by
a strong tag).
* I am working with vectors and the (now standard) notation for
vectors is using a,b,c and of course html uses  and  as tags.
* I am an interminable reviser which drives editors crazy.
=
Anyway what happened is:  span tags were added  inside  the mathjax
code:

Example: $x=2$  became $xspan=2$.

jsmath would ignore this addition and process, mathjax would not.
You could not see this addition in the editor, only in the html and of
course my latex was much, much more complex than this example 
=
This MAY have been the ONLY problem, but (a) I don't know when they
got added and (b) other editing was happening.
=
For sure, the test.sagenb editor does this:
For , I always write \lt which is latex for the less than symbol. The
editor changes this to lt; which is html for this symbol.
Arrays in latex have  between the elements in a row. The editor
changes this to amp;
=
However, these replacements seem to work in mathjax, but I really wish
editors did not want to help me :)

Best, Linda

On Jan 27, 7:55 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
 On 1/27/12 11:11 AM, LFS wrote:

  Hiya Jason
  Thanks Jason for reply!

 http://test.sagenb.org/home/pub/27

  Everything seems to work fine.
  However, I had to go into the html and fix it a zillion times. I
  highly recommend keeping the html as simple as possible and always
  COPYING IT (not the WYSIWYG since sagenb editor seems to add tags that
  mathjax cannot understand (and you don't see here, but do see in the
  html)).

 I don't understand what you mean in those last few sentences.  Can you
 give an example of what was happening?

 Thanks,

 Jason

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