Re: [Samba] filesystem of choice?
On 6/26/2011 17:18, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 6/26/2011 5:13 PM, Jeremy Allison wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 01:09:38AM -0700, Christ Schlacta wrote: ZFSonLinux is very nearly production ready, and I'm preparing to deploy it soon on a home server. Just a few minor niceties missing for now, but all the essential features are in place, and the bugs are only trickling in and nothing major's come up in a while. I'd certainly not trust it to a ~100TB multi server multi SAN environment yet, but soon~ zvol has been there from zfs for a while, so if you want xfs on ZFS in your environment, that's the closest I'd trust it in production yet. Is this the ZFS port to the Linux kernel ? If so it's interesting but rather limiting as the CDDL license makes it impossible for anyone to distribute as a combined work - rules out adoption by and Linux distros or commercial entities for example :-(. Shame, really does seem like a nice filesystem. Exactly. What puzzles me is that Oracle released BTRFS under GPL. Oracle now owns ZFS as well. Why aren't they GPL'ing ZFS for full inclusion in Linux, and filesystem licensing consistency? Do they fear this eroding SPARC box sales? Other market forces have almost killed SPARC already so I can't see that as a legitimate concern. Ellison obviously has some $$ reason for not GPL'ing ZFS, whether based in market reality or not. they're trying to un-entrench their company in all the philanthropy, so they bought some stuff that wasn't encumbered with the GPL. (my personal opinion on their perspective, not official in any capacity) -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] filesystem of choice?
On 6/26/2011 15:13, Jeremy Allison wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 01:09:38AM -0700, Christ Schlacta wrote: ZFSonLinux is very nearly production ready, and I'm preparing to deploy it soon on a home server. Just a few minor niceties missing for now, but all the essential features are in place, and the bugs are only trickling in and nothing major's come up in a while. I'd certainly not trust it to a ~100TB multi server multi SAN environment yet, but soon~ zvol has been there from zfs for a while, so if you want xfs on ZFS in your environment, that's the closest I'd trust it in production yet. Is this the ZFS port to the Linux kernel ? If so it's interesting but rather limiting as the CDDL license makes it impossible for anyone to distribute as a combined work - rules out adoption by and Linux distros or commercial entities for example :-(. Shame, really does seem like a nice filesystem. Jeremy. just requires some special consideration. I still install through apt-get install, and it works flawlessly. it's much like a lot of driver packages where you still have to compile them to make them work, it just does it auto-magically. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Code? or Test Pattern?
Hi Volker. The response became late. Why is it necessary to use old Samba? Size? License? Yes, a license is a thing which must be GPLv2. Although modification is contained in the source code (source code of GPLv3) after "3.0x", it cannot use on the problem of a license. Kenji -- Kenji Ichinoseki (ichinos...@sei-networks.com) At 11/06/24 18:35, Volker Lendecke wrote: On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 06:23:11PM +0900, Kenji Ichinoseki wrote: > >Again, I would highly recommend using a much later version > >of Samba than 3.0.37. Many, many fixes have been made, in > >particular for compatibility to more modern Windows > >releases. > > Since it is necessary to use surely old samba, it corresponds. > # New samba will be used at a my house. :-p Why is it necessary to use old Samba? Size? License? Volker -- SerNet GmbH, Bahnhofsallee 1b, 37081 G\x8B\xD5tingen phone: +49-551-37-0, fax: +49-551-37-9 AG G\x8B\xD5tingen, HRB 2816, GF: Dr. Johannes Loxen -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] filesystem of choice?
On 6/26/2011 5:13 PM, Jeremy Allison wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 01:09:38AM -0700, Christ Schlacta wrote: >> ZFSonLinux is very nearly production ready, and I'm preparing to >> deploy it soon on a home server. Just a few minor niceties missing >> for now, but all the essential features are in place, and the bugs >> are only trickling in and nothing major's come up in a while. >> >> I'd certainly not trust it to a ~100TB multi server multi SAN >> environment yet, but soon~ zvol has been there from zfs for a >> while, so if you want xfs on ZFS in your environment, that's the >> closest I'd trust it in production yet. > > Is this the ZFS port to the Linux kernel ? If so it's interesting > but rather limiting as the CDDL license makes it impossible for > anyone to distribute as a combined work - rules out adoption by > and Linux distros or commercial entities for example :-(. > > Shame, really does seem like a nice filesystem. Exactly. What puzzles me is that Oracle released BTRFS under GPL. Oracle now owns ZFS as well. Why aren't they GPL'ing ZFS for full inclusion in Linux, and filesystem licensing consistency? Do they fear this eroding SPARC box sales? Other market forces have almost killed SPARC already so I can't see that as a legitimate concern. Ellison obviously has some $$ reason for not GPL'ing ZFS, whether based in market reality or not. -- Stan -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] Problem getting Samba fully working
> -Original Message- > From: Linda Walsh [mailto:sa...@tlinx.org] > Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2011 8:02 PM > To: Moe, John > Cc: Samba mailing list > Subject: Re: Problem getting Samba fully working > > Moe, John wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > Relevant info up front: Gentoo PC, using 2.6.38 kernel and Samba > 3.4.12. > > > > I'm trying to get a FreeRadius instance working for our Windows > network. > > To do so, I need a Linux box running Samba. I've installed and > > configured Kerberos, Samba and FreeRadius, and can get most things to > > work. I can get a Kerberos key using kinit, and "sudo net ads keytab > > list" shows me tickets. I can use things like "net ads user myuser - > U > > myuser" to get info about my user account. I can use "sudo wbinfo - > t" > > to show the secret trust is OK, and "sudo net ads testjoin" works as > > well. I can even log on to my switch using RADIUS authentication to > my > > AD account (using ntlm_auth). So a lot of the pieces are working > > correctly. > > > [2011/06/21 07:12:21, 1] > > rpc_client/cli_pipe.c:949(cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu) > > cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu: RPC fault code > > DCERPC_FAULT_ACCESS_DENIED received from host MYGC.my.domain.name! > > > > > I am not sure the above messages are from your > ssh... And I know nothing about configuration with Free Radius or > Kerberos, so your problems may be completely different from ones > I've had but... > > > > I take it you are running ssh on the Win7 workstation and trying to > login to the linux samba server. > > > if your username in the domain is 'user' (i.e. you are 'domain\user'), > and your linux account is 'user', > then on the ssh line, you might try > > 'ssh user@linux-server' instead of the "normal" 'ssh linux-server' > > If that works, then your 'sshd' server on your linux server > is probably receiving 'domain\user' as the username, (not just 'user') > and doesn't know what to do with that. > > > Theoretically should be resolvable via proper pam and config files > (all the file ops map my 'domain\user' => 'user' on the PDC), but, > a _*hack*_ I use (but would find a better solution in a production > environment) is to create a 2nd /etc/passwd & /etc/shadow entry > that dups my 'user' but has the username field changed to > 'DOMAIN\user'. > (getting the capitalization to agree with what the workstation think's > it is, is important in this case; upper case is norm, so unless you've > customized things in the win registry, shouldn't be a prob (not that I > would have any knowledge of this, of course...) > > But I'd try to get 'winbind' config'ed with pam to map the username > properly for a best fix (on my 'todo list') ... just hasn't > been that important ... > > Best short term: > > specify the username with the hostname when using the 'ssh' (or scp, > i.e. 'scp file user@remote:/tmp' ) ... > > In any event, using kerberos/freeradius, there should be some way > to make sure that a 'domain\user' is mapped to 'user' on a PDC... > > Or it might be the 'ssh' client that "shouldn't" be prepending the > windows domainname not sure. > > But hopefully gives you some ideas where to look... > Thanks for the reply. Maybe I haven't made myself clear in the first post. I'm not asking for any help relating to FreeRadius; I just want to get basic Samba working properly. Share browsing via guest access works, and I get a number of other successes from other tests, but I can't seem to get login using AD username working, neither locally nor via SSH. To get integration with a native Windows 2003 AD domain, I was to understand I needed Kerberos; was that wrong? Maybe I've complicated things a bit here. As to the login problem: I'm using OpenSSH on Cygwin on my Win7 PC, and it doesn't matter if I try: ssh servername ssh user@servername ssh domain\user@servername ssh 'u...@my.domain.name'@servername They all return the same things in /var/log/messages: Jun 27 09:58:05 servername sshd[27461]: SSH: Server;Ltype: Version;Remote: 10.73.24.60-18606;Protocol: 2.0;Client: OpenSSH_5.8 Jun 27 09:58:05 servername sshd[27461]: Invalid user usern...@my.domain.name from 10.73.24.60 Jun 27 09:58:05 servername sshd[27463]: pam_tally2(sshd:auth): pam_get_uid; no such user Jun 27 09:58:08 servername sshd[27463]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): check pass; user unknown Jun 27 09:58:08 servername sshd[27463]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost= mypcname.my.domain.name Jun 27 09:58:08 servername sshd[27463]: pam_winbind(sshd:auth): getting password (0x0090) Jun 27 09:58:08 servername sshd[27463]: pam_winbind(sshd:auth): pam_get_item returned a password Jun 27 09:58:09 servername sshd[27461]: error: PAM: Authentication failure for illegal user from mypcname.my.domain.name Jun 27 09:58:09 servername sshd[27461]: Failed keyboard-interactive/pam for invalid user from 10.73.24.60 port 18606 ssh2 Jun 27 09:58:09 servername ssh
Re: [Samba] filesystem of choice?
On 6/26/2011 3:09 AM, Christ Schlacta wrote: > ZFSonLinux is very nearly production ready, and I'm preparing to deploy > it soon on a home server. Just a few minor niceties missing for now, > but all the essential features are in place, and the bugs are only > trickling in and nothing major's come up in a while. I think your personal definition of "production ready" is very different from that of most folks WRT their production servers. Case in point, from: http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html "The ZFS code can be modified to build as a CDDL licensed kernel module which is not distributed as part of the Linux kernel. This makes a Native ZFS on Linux implementation possible if you are willing to download and build it yourself." Carefully note the last sentence. Most SAs aren't going to be comfortable with such a situation, for many glaringly obvious reasons. As long as it's tied to the CDDL, requires manual installation, and has no support from distros (RedHat/SuSE), ZFS Linux will never be production ready, at least not for the majority. -- Stan -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] filesystem of choice?
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 01:09:38AM -0700, Christ Schlacta wrote: > ZFSonLinux is very nearly production ready, and I'm preparing to > deploy it soon on a home server. Just a few minor niceties missing > for now, but all the essential features are in place, and the bugs > are only trickling in and nothing major's come up in a while. > > I'd certainly not trust it to a ~100TB multi server multi SAN > environment yet, but soon~ zvol has been there from zfs for a > while, so if you want xfs on ZFS in your environment, that's the > closest I'd trust it in production yet. Is this the ZFS port to the Linux kernel ? If so it's interesting but rather limiting as the CDDL license makes it impossible for anyone to distribute as a combined work - rules out adoption by and Linux distros or commercial entities for example :-(. Shame, really does seem like a nice filesystem. Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
Re: [Samba] filesystem of choice?
ZFSonLinux is very nearly production ready, and I'm preparing to deploy it soon on a home server. Just a few minor niceties missing for now, but all the essential features are in place, and the bugs are only trickling in and nothing major's come up in a while. I'd certainly not trust it to a ~100TB multi server multi SAN environment yet, but soon~ zvol has been there from zfs for a while, so if you want xfs on ZFS in your environment, that's the closest I'd trust it in production yet. On 6/25/2011 17:48, Charles Weber wrote: I have a ~100 TB multi server multi SAN XFS/Samba deployment and have been using it since early fedora core days. EXT4 is now where I would consider using it instead of XFS. But with XFS and LVM I have trivial and very quick formatting, partition resizing and partition duplicating. It has been great. I would like some of the ZFS/BTRFS or GFS2 advantages but hey on a UPS, XFS just works and it is proven. On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Grant wrote: On Jun 25, 2011, at 1:32 AM, Christian PERRIER wrote: Quoting Linda W (sa...@tlinx.org): I regret misinforming anyone. I don't think you did..:-) You mentioned xfs as a very well supported FS and we later were reminded that its support was developed by Jeremy. I think this is compliant with "XFS is very well supported and one can rely on this code"... -- Thanks everyone for a most interesting and useful thread. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/options/samba
