[Samba] Re: Windows XP & greyed-out Guest user password prompt

2005-03-31 Thread Tom Schaefer
Look at the username directive in the smb.conf man page.  I
believe it could solve things for you.  In the section for a particular
share just specify "username = validuser1, validuser2" etc. and then
samba will attempt to validate whatever password the XP system with the greyed
out username field supplies against all the usernames specified in the
username directive for the share.  Username = %S is very useful for homes
shares.

Check it out, I really think it could do the trick for you. 

Tom Schaefer


On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:33:45 -0800
Jules Agee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tom Schaefer wrote:
> > It is because you are using
> > 
> > security = share
> > 
> > which is emulating the old Win9x way of sharing where the username is
> > irrelevant, which is why XP just sets it to guest and greys it out,
and> > all that matters is knowing the password to the particular share. 
> > 
> > Share a folder from Win9x using the type of sharing where you set a
> > password to access a folder and then access it from XP.  You'll see
the> > same thing - greyed out guest.
> > 
> > Tom Schaefer
> 
> I'm sure you're right. But I'm stuck using security=share, and Windows 
> 2000 clients behave just fine with the exact same server and the same 
> shares, prompting the user for a username *and* password if using the 
> local system authentication data fails.
> 
> Right now, the only idea I have is to force people to use the same 
> username and password on their local config as in our ldap database, and
> train them to keep the info in sync themselves. Setting up a domain 
> server isn't an option.
> 
> Thanks for your time!
> -Jules
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[Samba] Re: Windows XP & greyed-out Guest user password prompt

2005-03-30 Thread Jules Agee
Tom Schaefer wrote:
It is because you are using
security = share
which is emulating the old Win9x way of sharing where the username is
irrelevant, which is why XP just sets it to guest and greys it out, and
all that matters is knowing the password to the particular share. 

Share a folder from Win9x using the type of sharing where you set a
password to access a folder and then access it from XP.  You'll see the
same thing - greyed out guest.
Tom Schaefer
I'm sure you're right. But I'm stuck using security=share, and Windows 
2000 clients behave just fine with the exact same server and the same 
shares, prompting the user for a username *and* password if using the 
local system authentication data fails.

Right now, the only idea I have is to force people to use the same 
username and password on their local config as in our ldap database, and 
train them to keep the info in sync themselves. Setting up a domain 
server isn't an option.

Thanks for your time!
-Jules
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[Samba] Re: Windows XP & greyed-out Guest user password prompt

2005-03-30 Thread Tom Schaefer
It is because you are using

security = share

which is emulating the old Win9x way of sharing where the username is
irrelevant, which is why XP just sets it to guest and greys it out, and
all that matters is knowing the password to the particular share. 

Share a folder from Win9x using the type of sharing where you set a
password to access a folder and then access it from XP.  You'll see the
same thing - greyed out guest.

Tom Schaefer


On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:01:49 -0800
Jules Agee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tony Earnshaw wrote:
> > Jules Agee:
> > 
> > 
> >>(replying to self again)
> >>Update:
> >>The Windows XP (SP2, BTW) client tries three times to log in to the
> >>Samba server with the Windows username, which is different from the
> >>Samba username. As one would expect, Samba replies to each of the
three> >>requests with a "STATUS_WRONG_PASSWORD" message, and in the same
packets> >>the Action segment reads 0x0001 "Guest: Logged in as GUEST". If
a new XP> >>user is created with the same username and password as the
Samba account,> >>the problem goes away. But if either the XP username or
the XP password> >>differs from Samba's info, the user is never prompted
for the real> >>username or password.
> > 
> > 
> > I don't understand. One either logs onto the domain (which has a name)
or> > onto the local machine (which has a different name). One can't logon
to> > both at the same time, the choice is given at logon time. The
advantage of> > the domain logon is, that users can move from machine to
machine (for> > example in a teachers' common room, as I have) and just
carry on with> > their work in a familiar environment. Why would you want
to synchronize> > local and domain accounts?
> 
> There is no domain, and no domain server. Due to circumstances out of my
> control, we are only using workgroup shares. The samba servers are set 
> "security = share" in smb.conf. They share authentication data via an 
> LDAP server, but that information is not accessible to or synchronized 
> with the local desktop logins at this time.
> 
> I don't want to synchronize them. What I want is for Windows XP to 
> *prompt* the user for which username they would like to use to access 
> the share on the Samba server, since the local Windows username will 
> always fail for the Samba server login. Instead, they are only presented
> with a prompt for the Guest password.
> 
> I should have been clearer in my earlier message. Here is the 
> blow-by-blow for the authentication dialog:
> 
> XP: Negotiate Protocol Request, what are your capabilities?
> Samba: Negotiate Protocol Response, I can do this and this and this
> XP: I'd like to make an anonymous connection to the $IPC share, please.
> Samba: OK, no problem. You're successfully connected as Guest.
> XP: How about you let me log in as (local XP uid, local XP pw) instead 
> of Guest?
> Samba: Nope, sorry, STATUS_WRONG_PASSWORD but Action = 0x0001 (you're 
> still logged in as Guest)
> XP: Aww, c'mon, lemme log in as (local XP userid, local XP pw)
> Samba: Nope, sorry, STATUS_WRONG_PASSWORD but you're still logged in as 
> Guest
> XP: PLEZE let me log in as (local XP userid, local XP pw)
> Samba: Uh-uh. STATUS_WRONG_PASSWORD. You're still logged in as Guest
> 
> The local XP userid doesn't exist in Samba's authentication data source,
> and it's not supposed to. When XP is unsuccessful doing the above 
> negotiation with a Windows 2000 or 2003 server, then it prompts the user
> for a different username and password. But when the user does the exact 
> same thing with a Samba server, it doesn't allow the user to choose a 
> different username. It just presents a dialog asking for the Guest login
> password.
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[Samba] Re: Windows XP & greyed-out Guest user password prompt

2005-03-30 Thread Urs Rau
Jules Agee wrote:
(replying to self)
Jules Agee wrote:
Hi, we've been using Samba for a while, and are just now starting to 
switch our desktop computers to Windows XP. We are having a problem 
where connections to our Samba server fail, and the user is presented 
with a password prompt asking for a password for user Guest. They 
can't select a different user.


From what I have seen is that samba often doesn't allow you to change 
the username if it already has even just one single smb connection to 
the samba server. And there are a number of reports of win xp (in 
particular) caching some info about connections to a server.

In order to find your problem you could try doing:
net use * /del
followed by a net use to double check that all network connections are gone.
Your description sounds as if samba already has that workstation as 
being "connected" as the user "guest" (maybe?) and now only needs the 
credentials for the guest account to allow access.

The other way would be to query the server as to what user it thinks is 
connected to the "updates" share at the time of the error.

HTH
Urs Rau

Sorry, forgot to mention that we're running Samba 3.0.7 on Debian GNU/Linux
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