Re: [Samba] AD in Samba 3

[Harald Milz]

David Hargreave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Samba 3 based solutions cannot provide the following enterprise 
> services used by  the most recent releases of Microsoft products (XP, 
> Office 2003 etc)

A good example is the German Parliament - who gives a damn about this
AD featuritis, and they have 6000+ IT seats. ... You should discuss with
your management what you actually need. If all you need is NT4
functionality, Samba is Just Fine [TM].

Before anybody asks your management, come up with a suggestion for software
distribution and patch management for your XP machines. There are several
options that do work on Linux but SMS isn't one.  

> 1.  Active Directory Server support for Microsoft desktop operating 
> systems  and desktop applications ? some features will not be available 
> in office etc  without AD.

Correct - but do you need them? If you don't use M$ Exchange there is
little actual need for AD. 

> 2.  Group Policy Objects ? assist in reducing the effort required to 
> maintain a  secure network.

Which is more a question of your security policy than of M$ offerings. 

> 3.  Machine Policy Objects ? assist in reducing the effort required to 
> manage  the user desktop and workstation environments.
> 4.  Logon Scripts stored in Active Directory ? provides a single point 
> of  management for all critical user resources.

As do login scripts stored on a Samba server. This is a silly one. 

> 5.  Software Application and Access Controls in Active Directory ? 
> provides a  single point of management for all network security 
> settings.

Again - what are your actual security requirements. Don't buy (and pay!)
something you don't need. 

> 6.  Out of the box automated distributed directory services ? allows a 
> single  team to remotely manage servers and workstations in branch 
> offices and  provides disaster recovery capabilities.

...

Don't let these consultants bully you. Apparently, they do have a clue
about Windows and AD but ask them if they understand your actual needs. 

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[Samba] AD in Samba 3

[David Hargreave]

Hi,
I have a small issue that I hope I can get some help with.  Our company 
was just about to role out Samba 3.  We have about 300 employees and 
multiple offices (4 offices).  Unfortunately an "independant" 
consultancy company has done an audit which criticises this desision.

Could someone with a very good understanding of Samba (preferrably 
someone on the development team) assist me in responding to the points 
raised below?

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Samba 3 based solutions cannot provide the following enterprise 
services used by  the most recent releases of Microsoft products (XP, 
Office 2003 etc)
1.  Active Directory Server support for Microsoft desktop operating 
systems  and desktop applications – some features will not be available 
in office etc  without AD.
2.  Group Policy Objects – assist in reducing the effort required to 
maintain a  secure network.
3.  Machine Policy Objects – assist in reducing the effort required to 
manage  the user desktop and workstation environments.
4.  Logon Scripts stored in Active Directory – provides a single point 
of  management for all critical user resources.
5.  Software Application and Access Controls in Active Directory – 
provides a  single point of management for all network security 
settings.
6.  Out of the box automated distributed directory services – allows a 
single  team to remotely manage servers and workstations in branch 
offices and  provides disaster recovery capabilities.

8< CUT HERE 8< Extract from the document 8< CUT 
HERE 8<

I appreciate the assistance very much.
David
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