RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of "Retarded"

2010-02-06 Thread Martin Baxter

My bad. He was thumping the ground under my feet something fierce right after I 
posted that.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:45:15 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End   
Usage of "Retarded"


















 



  



  
  
  Hey! Stop insulting Rasputin!


On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:


























I consider Ms Palin about as saintly as Rasputin.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 00:08:21 +

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
of "Retarded"


















 



  



  
  
  
Saw that a while ago. The string of words I released over the hypocrisy would 
surely make the saintly Palin blush, and the sleazy Limbaugh laugh.


- Original Message -
From: "Martin Baxter" 
To: "SciFiNoir2" 

Sent: Friday, February 5, 2010 6:58:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
of "Retarded"








 



  



  
  
  


A bit more on the matter, this time courtesy of Ms Palin and the Drugster...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1114

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 15:28:19 -0500
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
of "Retarded"



















 



  



  
  
  


That's certainly at least two of us. Again, seeing crap like this, I wonder 
what historians will think of us years hence, the level of influence one sad 
little quitter from Wasilla had on the world.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:37:48 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of 
"Retarded"



















 



  



  
  
  The best comeback was from Keith Olbermann who found multiple instances 
of Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck either using the word retard or disparaging 
mentally challenged people on air. Where's the outrage over that? I'm sick of 
this woman using her child and the rest of her family to try and score cheap 
points with the Fox news crowd. 




--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:

>

> 

> Them insensitive comic-book 'ritin' folk... Ms Palin gon' git her gun on 'em, 
> iff'n they ain't careful.

> 

> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

> 

> 

> 

> 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> From: keithbjohn...@...

> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 23:55:46 +

> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
> of "Retarded"

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> As an aside, i was reading an issue of the Fantastic Four comic earlier 
> today. Reed and Sue Richards have two children now: the

> older, their son Franklin, who has normal intelligence, and their young

> daughter Valeria, who at the age of four is already a supergenius on

> the level of her father Reed.  In playing around with Franklin about a

> question he was asking, Valeria says "Oh Franklin, you're such a

> retard!"

> 

> Do we need to alert Sarah Palin so she can get Marvel

> comics censured? Demand an apology from the creative staff? Maybe get

> the FF canceled?

> 

> - Original Message -

> From: "Martin Baxter" 

> To: "SciFiNoir2" 

> Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 3:13:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Sig

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of "Retarded"

2010-02-05 Thread Mr. Worf
Hey! Stop insulting Rasputin!

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> I consider Ms Palin about as saintly as Rasputin.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 00:08:21 +0000
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End
> Usage of "Retarded"
>
>
>
> Saw that a while ago. The string of words I released over the hypocrisy
> would surely make the saintly Palin blush, and the sleazy Limbaugh laugh.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> To: "SciFiNoir2" 
> Sent: Friday, February 5, 2010 6:58:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End
> Usage of "Retarded"
>
>
>  A bit more on the matter, this time courtesy of Ms Palin and the
> Drugster...
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1114
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 15:28:19 -0500
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End
> Usage of "Retarded"
>
>
>  That's certainly at least two of us. Again, seeing crap like this, I
> wonder what historians will think of us years hence, the level of influence
> one sad little quitter from Wasilla had on the world.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
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>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:37:48 +
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage
> of "Retarded"
>
>
>  The best comeback was from Keith Olbermann who found multiple instances
> of Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck either using the word retard or disparaging
> mentally challenged people on air. Where's the outrage over that? I'm sick
> of this woman using her child and the rest of her family to try and score
> cheap points with the Fox news crowd.
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Them insensitive comic-book 'ritin' folk... Ms Palin gon' git her gun on
> 'em, iff'n they ain't careful.
> >
> > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > From: keithbjohn...@...
> > Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 23:55:46 +
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End
> Usage of "Retarded"
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> > As an aside, i was reading an issue of the Fantastic Four comic earlier
> today. Reed and Sue Richards have two children now: the
> > older, their son Franklin, who has normal intelligence, and their young
> > daughter Valeria, who at the age of four is already a supergenius on
> > the level of her father Reed. In playing around with Franklin about a
> > question he was asking, Valeria says "Oh Franklin, you're such a
> > retard!"
> >
> > Do we need to alert Sarah Palin so she can get Marvel
> > comics censured? Demand an apology from the creative staff? Maybe get
> > the FF canceled?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Martin Baxter" 
> > To: "SciFiNoir2" 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 3:13:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End
> Usage of "Retarded"
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> &g

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of "Retarded"

2010-02-05 Thread Martin Baxter

I consider Ms Palin about as saintly as Rasputin.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 00:08:21 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
of "Retarded"


















 



  



  
  
  
Saw that a while ago. The string of words I released over the hypocrisy would 
surely make the saintly Palin blush, and the sleazy Limbaugh laugh.

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Baxter" 
To: "SciFiNoir2" 
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2010 6:58:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
of "Retarded"








 



  



  
  
  


A bit more on the matter, this time courtesy of Ms Palin and the Drugster...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1114

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 15:28:19 -0500
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
of "Retarded"


















 



  



  
  
  


That's certainly at least two of us. Again, seeing crap like this, I wonder 
what historians will think of us years hence, the level of influence one sad 
little quitter from Wasilla had on the world.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:37:48 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of 
"Retarded"


















 



  



  
  
  The best comeback was from Keith Olbermann who found multiple instances 
of Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck either using the word retard or disparaging 
mentally challenged people on air. Where's the outrage over that? I'm sick of 
this woman using her child and the rest of her family to try and score cheap 
points with the Fox news crowd. 



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:

>

> 

> Them insensitive comic-book 'ritin' folk... Ms Palin gon' git her gun on 'em, 
> iff'n they ain't careful.

> 

> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

> 

> 

> 

> 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> From: keithbjohn...@...

> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 23:55:46 +

> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
> of "Retarded"

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> As an aside, i was reading an issue of the Fantastic Four comic earlier 
> today. Reed and Sue Richards have two children now: the

> older, their son Franklin, who has normal intelligence, and their young

> daughter Valeria, who at the age of four is already a supergenius on

> the level of her father Reed.  In playing around with Franklin about a

> question he was asking, Valeria says "Oh Franklin, you're such a

> retard!"

> 

> Do we need to alert Sarah Palin so she can get Marvel

> comics censured? Demand an apology from the creative staff? Maybe get

> the FF canceled?

> 

> - Original Message -

> From: "Martin Baxter" 

> To: "SciFiNoir2" 

> Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 3:13:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
> of "Retarded"

> 

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> (another standing ovation)

> 

> When I first heard this story reported, I gave myself a headache when my eyes 
> rolled back into my head too fast.

> 

> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of "Retarded"

2010-02-05 Thread Keith Johnson
Saw that a while ago. The string of words I released over the hypocrisy would 
surely make the saintly Palin blush, and the sleazy Limbaugh laugh. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: "SciFiNoir2"  
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2010 6:58:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
of "Retarded" 






A bit more on the matter, this time courtesy of Ms Palin and the Drugster... 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1114 

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 15:28:19 -0500 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
of "Retarded" 




That's certainly at least two of us. Again, seeing crap like this, I wonder 
what historians will think of us years hence, the level of influence one sad 
little quitter from Wasilla had on the world. 

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 






To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com 
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:37:48 +0000 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of 
"Retarded" 




The best comeback was from Keith Olbermann who found multiple instances of Rush 
Limbaugh and Glen Beck either using the word retard or disparaging mentally 
challenged people on air. Where's the outrage over that? I'm sick of this woman 
using her child and the rest of her family to try and score cheap points with 
the Fox news crowd. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter  wrote: 
> 
> 
> Them insensitive comic-book 'ritin' folk... Ms Palin gon' git her gun on 'em, 
> iff'n they ain't careful. 
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> From: keithbjohn...@... 
> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 23:55:46 + 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
> of "Retarded" 
> 
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> As an aside, i was reading an issue of the Fantastic Four comic earlier 
> today. Reed and Sue Richards have two children now: the 
> older, their son Franklin, who has normal intelligence, and their young 
> daughter Valeria, who at the age of four is already a supergenius on 
> the level of her father Reed. In playing around with Franklin about a 
> question he was asking, Valeria says "Oh Franklin, you're such a 
> retard!" 
> 
> Do we need to alert Sarah Palin so she can get Marvel 
> comics censured? Demand an apology from the creative staff? Maybe get 
> the FF canceled? 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Martin Baxter"  
> To: "SciFiNoir2" < scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > 
> Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 3:13:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
> of "Retarded" 
> 
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> 
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> 
> (another standing ovation) 
> 
> When I first heard this story reported, I gave myself a headache when my eyes 
> rolled back into my head too fast. 
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> From: keithbjohn...@... 
> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:33:52 + 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of 
> "Retarded" 
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> I'm sorry, but I don't see this as a firing offense. "Retarded" has many 
> meanings and connotations. When you call a person "retarded" for doing 
> something stupid, it's not in any way meant to suggest that person has Downs 
> or Autism or any other developmental condition. It means the perso

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of "Retarded"

2010-02-05 Thread Martin Baxter

A bit more on the matter, this time courtesy of Ms Palin and the Drugster...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1114

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: truthseeker...@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 15:28:19 -0500
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
of "Retarded"


















 



  



  
  
  


That's certainly at least two of us. Again, seeing crap like this, I wonder 
what historians will think of us years hence, the level of influence one sad 
little quitter from Wasilla had on the world.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:37:48 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of 
"Retarded"


















 



  



  
  
  The best comeback was from Keith Olbermann who found multiple instances 
of Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck either using the word retard or disparaging 
mentally challenged people on air. Where's the outrage over that? I'm sick of 
this woman using her child and the rest of her family to try and score cheap 
points with the Fox news crowd. 



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:

>

> 

> Them insensitive comic-book 'ritin' folk... Ms Palin gon' git her gun on 'em, 
> iff'n they ain't careful.

> 

> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

> 

> 

> 

> 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> From: keithbjohn...@...

> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 23:55:46 +

> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
> of "Retarded"

> 

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>  

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> 

> 

>   

> 

> 

> 

>   

>   

>   

> As an aside, i was reading an issue of the Fantastic Four comic earlier 
> today. Reed and Sue Richards have two children now: the

> older, their son Franklin, who has normal intelligence, and their young

> daughter Valeria, who at the age of four is already a supergenius on

> the level of her father Reed.  In playing around with Franklin about a

> question he was asking, Valeria says "Oh Franklin, you're such a

> retard!"

> 

> Do we need to alert Sarah Palin so she can get Marvel

> comics censured? Demand an apology from the creative staff? Maybe get

> the FF canceled?

> 

> - Original Message -

> From: "Martin Baxter" 

> To: "SciFiNoir2" 

> Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 3:13:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
> of "Retarded"

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>  

> 

> 

> 

>   

> 

> 

> 

>   

>   

>   

> 

> 

> (another standing ovation)

> 

> When I first heard this story reported, I gave myself a headache when my eyes 
> rolled back into my head too fast.

> 

> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> From: keithbjohn...@...

> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:33:52 +

> Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of 
> "Retarded"

> 

> 

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> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>  

> 

> 

> 

>   

> 

> 

> 

>   

>   

>   

> I'm sorry, but I don't see this as a firing offense. "Retarded" has many 
> meanings and connotations. When you call a person "retarded" for doing 
> something stupid, it's not in any way meant to suggest that person has Downs 
> or Autism or any other developmental condition. It means the person is an 
> idiot, pure and simple. The words "simpleton", "geek", "cretin", and actually 
> even, "idiot", could be tagged as equally offensive in this light

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of "Retarded"

2010-02-05 Thread Martin Baxter

That's certainly at least two of us. Again, seeing crap like this, I wonder 
what historians will think of us years hence, the level of influence one sad 
little quitter from Wasilla had on the world.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:37:48 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of 
"Retarded"


















 



  



  
  
  The best comeback was from Keith Olbermann who found multiple instances 
of Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck either using the word retard or disparaging 
mentally challenged people on air. Where's the outrage over that? I'm sick of 
this woman using her child and the rest of her family to try and score cheap 
points with the Fox news crowd. 



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:

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> Them insensitive comic-book 'ritin' folk... Ms Palin gon' git her gun on 'em, 
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> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

> From: keithbjohn...@...

> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 23:55:46 +

> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
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> As an aside, i was reading an issue of the Fantastic Four comic earlier 
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> daughter Valeria, who at the age of four is already a supergenius on

> the level of her father Reed.  In playing around with Franklin about a

> question he was asking, Valeria says "Oh Franklin, you're such a

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> Do we need to alert Sarah Palin so she can get Marvel

> comics censured? Demand an apology from the creative staff? Maybe get

> the FF canceled?

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> - Original Message -

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> To: "SciFiNoir2" 

> Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 3:13:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
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> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:33:52 +

> Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of 
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> I'm sorry, but I don't see this as a firing offense. "Retarded" has many 
> meanings and connotations. When you call a person "retarded" for doing 
> something stupid, it's not in any way meant to suggest that person has Downs 
> or Autism or any other developmental condition. It means the person is an 
> idiot, pure and simple. The words "simpleton", "geek", "cretin", and actually 
> even, "idiot", could be tagged as equally offensive in this light. This is a 
> tempest in a teapot, especially seeing as this took place behind closed doors.

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> I'm not saying people don't have a right to be upset. Had he used the n-word 
> behind closed doors, even, I'd be pissed. If some hate "retarded" on this 
> level, i respect that. But I do think we need to do some serious examination 
> of how much stuff said in private can and should be used to evaluate a 
> person's character. No single one of us could bear the scrutiny if everything 
> we said in private were publ

[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of "Retarded"

2010-02-05 Thread B Smith
The best comeback was from Keith Olbermann who found multiple instances of Rush 
Limbaugh and Glen Beck either using the word retard or disparaging mentally 
challenged people on air. Where's the outrage over that? I'm sick of this woman 
using her child and the rest of her family to try and score cheap points with 
the Fox news crowd. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
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> Them insensitive comic-book 'ritin' folk... Ms Palin gon' git her gun on 'em, 
> iff'n they ain't careful.
> 
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: keithbjohn...@...
> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 23:55:46 +
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
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> As an aside, i was reading an issue of the Fantastic Four comic earlier 
> today. Reed and Sue Richards have two children now: the
> older, their son Franklin, who has normal intelligence, and their young
> daughter Valeria, who at the age of four is already a supergenius on
> the level of her father Reed.  In playing around with Franklin about a
> question he was asking, Valeria says "Oh Franklin, you're such a
> retard!"
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> Do we need to alert Sarah Palin so she can get Marvel
> comics censured? Demand an apology from the creative staff? Maybe get
> the FF canceled?
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> To: "SciFiNoir2" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 3:13:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage 
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> When I first heard this story reported, I gave myself a headache when my eyes 
> rolled back into my head too fast.
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> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
> hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: keithbjohn...@...
> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:33:52 +
> Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Emanuel Apologizes, Signs Pledge to End Usage of 
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> I'm sorry, but I don't see this as a firing offense. "Retarded" has many 
> meanings and connotations. When you call a person "retarded" for doing 
> something stupid, it's not in any way meant to suggest that person has Downs 
> or Autism or any other developmental condition. It means the person is an 
> idiot, pure and simple. The words "simpleton", "geek", "cretin", and actually 
> even, "idiot", could be tagged as equally offensive in this light. This is a 
> tempest in a teapot, especially seeing as this took place behind closed doors.
> 
> I'm not saying people don't have a right to be upset. Had he used the n-word 
> behind closed doors, even, I'd be pissed. If some hate "retarded" on this 
> level, i respect that. But I do think we need to do some serious examination 
> of how much stuff said in private can and should be used to evaluate a 
> person's character. No single one of us could bear the scrutiny if everything 
> we said in private were publicized. If my private utterings around the house 
> ever got out, I think a lot of conservative white religious fanatics would 
> probably want to have me drawn and quartered!
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> End of the day, I don't think he at all was thinking of people with true 
> developmental problems, but now that it got out, an apology was the right 
> thing to do. Past that, let this die, and let's move on. The bigger problem 
> is a new Internet/Twitter/Facebook world where every single thing is 
> instantly universal, without any benefit of filtering, explanation, or real 
> analysis. 
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> And the biggest problem? A world in which that idiot Sarah Palin is still 
> being quoted for her opinion on anything of substance.  With apologies to the 
> idiots of the world for that comparison
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> Yahoo News
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> Dating back to the time he worked in the Clinton administration, White House 
> Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel has developed an almost notorious reputation in 
> Washington for being a brash personality with a penchant for profanity-laced 
> diatribes. Conversely, his intense nature, in addition to his sharp mind, are 
> what many attribute to his success and effectiveness as a Washington power 
> player. But a recently revealed remark he made in a closed-door meeting 
> attended by White House aides and leaders of liberal special-interest groups 
> has irked many, prompting him to issue an ap