RE: CS Reply
sota pulser isn't much of a CS generator ... handy for a travel kit maybe. it's a Beck type blood cleaner, NOT a zapper _ From: Phil Morrison [mailto:philmorrison...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 2:52 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS Reply I am much obliged to silver-list member for posting referral to Vince Goetsch Colloidal Silver Analysis and Theoretical Overview. Really great study. Sota Instrument offers top notch silver pulser and CS generator combo in one small package. This unit makes excellent CS and provides pulser (zapper) for the special situations.
Re: CSGM crops
Good luck Joe. I love change.org, and I think it is a very useful tool that many of us could use for such issues. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote: Hi! I just signed the petition Take a close look at the adverse effects of GM crops on Change.org. It's important. Will you sign it too? Here's the link: http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/take-a-close-look- at-the-adverse-effects-of-gm-crops-2?share_id=dEefKHAubt utm_campaign=signature_receiptutm_medium=emailutm_source=share_petition Thanks! Joe -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/ maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Some updates from me...
Hi folks, Following up on some of your questions and comments... While I haven't participated as much as I would like to have, nor have I read every post, I do regularly keep tabs on traffic and topics. Which is why it has happened so often that a topic comes up that I needed just then. That's the case with CMO and Malcolm's remarks yesterday and this morning: Malcolm wrote: pain in shoulders makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier than a half gallon of milk Try just lifting the arm! ouchie! I'd given up on finding it again years ago but it looks like Jarrow has something possibly the same or similar. I'm gonna give it a try; I'll let you know what comes of it. I had no help from the powder from beyond a century, The powdered CMO from BaC was one of my disappointments as well. I did a course of it late last year that didn't seem to do anything. At least some of what I'm possibly dealing with should be T-cell mediated, so it ought to have had some effect. This gives me an incentive to try again. Thank you! PT wrote: About the zapper, how are you avoiding burns? I don't know. I'm very quick to move it if I get the slightest bite. Other than that, I tend to keep it pretty tight against the skin to maximize contact area. It's usually strapped to my calf with the top of a men's sock, or my upper arm with an ACE elastic bandage. Per directions I polish the electrodes almost daily to remove tarnish. That would also prevent hot-spots forming that would concentrate current in a small area. It doesn't help if you sweat, either! Have you considered frequency treatments for the joint and inflammation issues? Haven't gotten to that. So far the anti-inflammatories (Bromelain, Boswelliaa, Turmeric, fish oil, Beta-Sitosterol) have gotten me on top of the joint issues. I'm still working a number of other strategies that I'm more familiar with and that are less costly. I stand reminded, and if you have specific suggestions for me to check into I'd like to hear them. Scott wrote: Mike have you ruled out Chronic Lyme disease or one of its co-infections? Your symptoms sound very similar to ones I hear frequently on my lyme rife list. Pretty much, but not definitely? I've done a lot of things that should have affected anything bacterial, even late stage Lyme. I also have mercury toxicity as a candidate for an underlying cause. The loci seem to be connective tissue and lymphatic system. I have negligible neurological issues, none that are serious or debilitating. None of the characteristic brain fog, for instance. It's still something I consider. If as I tell more of my story over time you've seen similar patterns in others, please let me know. Thank you for being here, everyone. Be well! Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...
I believe it was hydrolyzed collagen that was used in the protocol. Have you found a new source of CMO? PT From: Malcolm s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:49 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Some updates from me... Hi Joe, So have I but it isn't the same as the stuff I've originally used. Beyond a century sells a powder which probably contains some/many of the constituents, but CMO has about 9 - guess you could call them analogs - with varying properties and various concentrations. The stuff I used successfully was in a (possibly) tallow-like base but with a fairly low melting point; I think the base was actually a reacting medium of/for the compound itself. At any rate it worked. I followed the original protocol using the CMO MSM and ??? (was it glucosamine? durn!, can't remember at this moment). Anyway, three doses a day for ten days, avoid fats for at least a couple of hours around taking the pills, and no alcohol for the entire ten days. - And no coffee either, but I cheated on that one. I'm afraid the stuff has acquired the mystique of a miracle substance, and so is of course sold shrouded in mystery, manufactured in proprietary fashion - even by Harry Diehl's family. So it goes. Malcolm On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 09:49 -0500, Joe Huard wrote: I have bought cetyl myristoleate from Beyond a Century, but it's not there anymore. Hmm? Joe On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote: Hi Mike, What wonderful news! You are addressing a couple of the chronic problems I face; the blood pressure, and more recently pain in shoulders makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier than a half gallon of milk and now in my right hip makes walking chancy for 'ouch!' too. Thanks for sharing, I'll be checking out Don Croft's zapper and Brooks' protocol as well. In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become unavailable - at least I couldn't find it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS Some updates from me...
I have certainly heard of Chronic Lyme folks with exactly what you are referring to, no brain fog but joint/collagen and lymph issues. One thing you might try Mike is a course of salt/c for a few weeks and see if a Herx develops. Usually an excellent indication that chronic lyme exists is the Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction to treatment. It is like feeling you have the flu without the runny nose or cough. Salt/c is an extremely simple and cheap regimen that many Chronic Lyme sufferers use to good effect. I can send more details if interested. Scott Adams I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet! www.lyme-resource.com -Original Message- From: M.G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 6:46 AM To: silver-list Subject: Re: CS Some updates from me... Hi folks, Following up on some of your questions and comments... While I haven't participated as much as I would like to have, nor have I read every post, I do regularly keep tabs on traffic and topics. Which is why it has happened so often that a topic comes up that I needed just then. That's the case with CMO and Malcolm's remarks yesterday and this morning: Malcolm wrote: pain in shoulders makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier than a half gallon of milk Try just lifting the arm! ouchie! I'd given up on finding it again years ago but it looks like Jarrow has something possibly the same or similar. I'm gonna give it a try; I'll let you know what comes of it. I had no help from the powder from beyond a century, The powdered CMO from BaC was one of my disappointments as well. I did a course of it late last year that didn't seem to do anything. At least some of what I'm possibly dealing with should be T-cell mediated, so it ought to have had some effect. This gives me an incentive to try again. Thank you! PT wrote: About the zapper, how are you avoiding burns? I don't know. I'm very quick to move it if I get the slightest bite. Other than that, I tend to keep it pretty tight against the skin to maximize contact area. It's usually strapped to my calf with the top of a men's sock, or my upper arm with an ACE elastic bandage. Per directions I polish the electrodes almost daily to remove tarnish. That would also prevent hot-spots forming that would concentrate current in a small area. It doesn't help if you sweat, either! Have you considered frequency treatments for the joint and inflammation issues? Haven't gotten to that. So far the anti-inflammatories (Bromelain, Boswelliaa, Turmeric, fish oil, Beta-Sitosterol) have gotten me on top of the joint issues. I'm still working a number of other strategies that I'm more familiar with and that are less costly. I stand reminded, and if you have specific suggestions for me to check into I'd like to hear them. Scott wrote: Mike have you ruled out Chronic Lyme disease or one of its co-infections? Your symptoms sound very similar to ones I hear frequently on my lyme rife list. Pretty much, but not definitely? I've done a lot of things that should have affected anything bacterial, even late stage Lyme. I also have mercury toxicity as a candidate for an underlying cause. The loci seem to be connective tissue and lymphatic system. I have negligible neurological issues, none that are serious or debilitating. None of the characteristic brain fog, for instance. It's still something I consider. If as I tell more of my story over time you've seen similar patterns in others, please let me know. Thank you for being here, everyone. Be well! Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...
My family and I have used CMO from here a number of times with very good results: http://cmo-usa.com/ Marshall On 12/4/2013 12:38 AM, Malcolm wrote: Thanks Joe, I'd given up on finding it again years ago but it looks like Jarrow has something possibly the same or similar. I'm gonna give it a try; I'll let you know what comes of it. M. On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:07 -0500, Joe Huard wrote: I found it listed here, http://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=cetyl+myristoleate Joe On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote: In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become unavailable - at least I couldn't find it. Thanks again! Malcolm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3222/6390 - Release Date: 12/04/13
Re: CSGM crops
Yes, and Avaaz is also offering to spread your petitions to their members. http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/start_a_petition/?cl=3604078836v=31678source=blast Joe On 04/12/2013 6:43 AM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: Good luck Joe. I love change.org http://change.org, and I think it is a very useful tool that many of us could use for such issues. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca mailto:joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote: Hi! I just signed the petition Take a close look at the adverse effects of GM crops on Change.org. It's important. Will you sign it too? Here's the link: http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/take-a-close-look-at-the-adverse-effects-of-gm-crops-2?share_id=dEefKHAubtutm_campaign=signature_receiptutm_medium=emailutm_source=share_petition Thanks! Joe -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCroft zapper
Congratulations on your success with this device. If your experience is anything like mine then your benefits are just beginning. The pain of a devilish heel spur (one which the physician described as a whopper and for which I had 2 cortisone shots (refused a third), was gone in about one hour of use of the zapper. I had sat down to read while using the device for the first time and when I arose to get water, I was half way to the kitchen when I realized that I was not holding onto things to lessen the pain. Whoop te do!! I zapped day and night after that and actually thought that might be the only benefit I would get. However, after 2 to 3 weeks the extreeeme fatigue I had been experiencing for some time was gone. I am much stronger now, but the unbelievable fatigue was gone quickly. My son's acne which was pretty bad,, was gone in less than a week. Redness gone in about one hour and the rest was healed up in less than a week. My uncertainty about time involved is mostly because it has been close to 15 years since these things took place. I have used a zapper nearly every day since then. My first one was his original one--$50.00 and a 30 day money back guarantee. Best money I ever spent. I keep a spare on hand at all times and keep a large supply of 9 volt batteries at all times. I refer to the zapper as my immortality device. So far, so good. :) Best wishes to all. pj
Re: CSCroft zapper
Thanks for sharing this. I don't think he sells a $50 zapper anymore, does he? Do you know the specs on this zapper? (eg. frequency, voltage, current) On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com wrote: Congratulations on your success with this device. If your experience is anything like mine then your benefits are just beginning. The pain of a devilish heel spur (one which the physician described as a whopper and for which I had 2 cortisone shots (refused a third), was gone in about one hour of use of the zapper. I had sat down to read while using the device for the first time and when I arose to get water, I was half way to the kitchen when I realized that I was not holding onto things to lessen the pain. Whoop te do!! I zapped day and night after that and actually thought that might be the only benefit I would get. However, after 2 to 3 weeks the extreeeme fatigue I had been experiencing for some time was gone. I am much stronger now, but the unbelievable fatigue was gone quickly. My son's acne which was pretty bad,, was gone in less than a week. Redness gone in about one hour and the rest was healed up in less than a week. My uncertainty about time involved is mostly because it has been close to 15 years since these things took place. I have used a zapper nearly every day since then. My first one was his original one--$50.00 and a 30 day money back guarantee. Best money I ever spent. I keep a spare on hand at all times and keep a large supply of 9 volt batteries at all times. I refer to the zapper as my immortality device. So far, so good. :) Best wishes to all. pj -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
CSReply
Sota Instrument silver pulser is a blood energizer. Blood cells might be under performing. Pulser whips cells back to normal again.
Re: CSCroft zapper
I went to Don Croft's site and his site endorses this site for basic $35 zappers: http://www.ctbusters.com/shop/store/product/basic_zapper/ On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for sharing this. I don't think he sells a $50 zapper anymore, does he? Do you know the specs on this zapper? (eg. frequency, voltage, current) On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com wrote: Congratulations on your success with this device. If your experience is anything like mine then your benefits are just beginning. The pain of a devilish heel spur (one which the physician described as a whopper and for which I had 2 cortisone shots (refused a third), was gone in about one hour of use of the zapper. I had sat down to read while using the device for the first time and when I arose to get water, I was half way to the kitchen when I realized that I was not holding onto things to lessen the pain. Whoop te do!! I zapped day and night after that and actually thought that might be the only benefit I would get. However, after 2 to 3 weeks the extreeeme fatigue I had been experiencing for some time was gone. I am much stronger now, but the unbelievable fatigue was gone quickly. My son's acne which was pretty bad,, was gone in less than a week. Redness gone in about one hour and the rest was healed up in less than a week. My uncertainty about time involved is mostly because it has been close to 15 years since these things took place. I have used a zapper nearly every day since then. My first one was his original one--$50.00 and a 30 day money back guarantee. Best money I ever spent. I keep a spare on hand at all times and keep a large supply of 9 volt batteries at all times. I refer to the zapper as my immortality device. So far, so good. :) Best wishes to all. pj -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSCroft zapper
There are several on eBay, ranging from about $35 to $135. Beth T On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Alan Jones wrote: Thanks for sharing this. I don't think he sells a $50 zapper anymore, does he? Do you know the specs on this zapper? (eg. frequency, voltage, current) On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com wrote: Congratulations on your success with this device. If your experience is anything like mine then your benefits are just beginning. The pain of a devilish heel spur (one which the physician described as a whopper and for which I had 2 cortisone shots (refused a third), was gone in about one hour of use of the zapper. I had sat down to read while using the device for the first time and when I arose to get water, I was half way to the kitchen when I realized that I was not holding onto things to lessen the pain. Whoop te do!! I zapped day and night after that and actually thought that might be the only benefit I would get. However, after 2 to 3 weeks the extreeeme fatigue I had been experiencing for some time was gone. I am much stronger now, but the unbelievable fatigue was gone quickly. My son's acne which was pretty bad,, was gone in less than a week. Redness gone in about one hour and the rest was healed up in less than a week. My uncertainty about time involved is mostly because it has been close to 15 years since these things took place. I have used a zapper nearly every day since then. My first one was his original one--$50.00 and a 30 day money back guarantee. Best money I ever spent. I keep a spare on hand at all times and keep a large supply of 9 volt batteries at all times. I refer to the zapper as my immortality device. So far, so good. :) Best wishes to all. pj -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSCroft zapper
Alan wrote: I don't think [Don Croft] sells a $50 zapper anymore, does he? Yeah, as you point out in answer to your own question, he endorses a few people who are making zappers of the same basic electrical and physical design without the metaphysical components whose value one can argue 'til the cows come home but could only be tested by careful studies (and possibly not even then! grin). Do you know the specs on this zapper? (eg. frequency, voltage, current) I know it runs off a 9V battery, puts out a 15 Hertz square wave, and open circuit voltage is supposed to be a bit less than 4.5 volts, indicating slightly less than a 50% duty cycle, If I am remembering correctly what I've read on Don's site. I assume there is at least a current limiting resistor in series with the output to keep the current in a safe and comfortable range. You'd have to test that assumption by, for instance, putting your voltmeter across the electrodes and then maybe touching both with your dampened fingers and seeing how much the voltage drops. If it does drop, then there's at least a resistor in line. Find the value of resistance that drops the voltage by half and you've got the value of the current limiter. For any more detail than that I'd have to take mine apart, which I'm not planning to do any time soon. smile Even I wouldn't baulk at one of the units for less than $40, though. It'd be easier than building one unless you already have the electronics skills and a well stuffed junk box. Be well! Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMMS testimonials
I know lots of people aren't on board with MMS, but there's some pretty nice testimonials on this Youtube channel. I think the newer protocols they came up with help a lot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMxDVGHL2NMfeature=em-uploademail -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)