RE: CS Reply

2013-12-04 Thread bob Larson
sota pulser isn't much of a CS generator ... handy for a travel kit maybe.
it's a Beck type blood cleaner, NOT a zapper


  _  

From: Phil Morrison [mailto:philmorrison...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 2:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS Reply



I am much obliged to silver-list member for posting referral to

Vince Goetsch Colloidal Silver Analysis and Theoretical Overview.


Really great study.


Sota Instrument offers top notch silver pulser and CS generator combo

in one small package.   This unit makes excellent CS and provides

pulser (zapper) for the special situations.   




Re: CSGM crops

2013-12-04 Thread Victor Cozzetto
Good luck Joe. I love change.org, and I think it is a very useful tool that
many of us could use for such issues.


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote:

 Hi!

 I just signed the petition Take a close look at the adverse effects of GM
 crops on Change.org.

 It's important. Will you sign it too? Here's the link:

 http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/take-a-close-look-
 at-the-adverse-effects-of-gm-crops-2?share_id=dEefKHAubt
 utm_campaign=signature_receiptutm_medium=emailutm_source=share_petition

 Thanks!

 Joe


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Re: CS Some updates from me...

2013-12-04 Thread M.G. Devour
Hi folks,

Following up on some of your questions and comments...

While I haven't participated as much as I would like to have, nor have I
read every post, I do regularly keep tabs on traffic and topics. Which
is why it has happened so often that a topic comes up that I needed
just then. That's the case with CMO and Malcolm's remarks yesterday
and this morning:

Malcolm wrote:
 pain in shoulders makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible
 for anything heavier than a half gallon of milk

Try just lifting the arm! ouchie!

 I'd given up on finding it again years ago but it looks like Jarrow
 has something possibly the same or similar.  I'm gonna give it a try;
 I'll
 let you know what comes of it.

 I had no help from the powder from beyond a century, 

The powdered CMO from BaC was one of my disappointments as well. I did a
course of it late last year that didn't seem to do anything. At least
some of what I'm possibly dealing with should be T-cell mediated, so it
ought to have had some effect. This gives me an incentive to try again.
Thank you!

PT wrote:
 About the zapper, how are you avoiding burns?

I don't know. I'm very quick to move it if I get the slightest bite.
Other than that, I tend to keep it pretty tight against the skin to
maximize contact area. It's usually strapped to my calf with the top of
a men's sock, or my upper arm with an ACE elastic bandage. Per
directions I polish the electrodes almost daily to remove tarnish. That
would also prevent hot-spots forming that would concentrate current in a
small area. It doesn't help if you sweat, either!

 Have you considered frequency treatments for the joint and
 inflammation issues?

Haven't gotten to that. So far the anti-inflammatories (Bromelain,
Boswelliaa, Turmeric, fish oil, Beta-Sitosterol) have gotten me on top
of the joint issues. I'm still working a number of other strategies that
I'm more familiar with and that are less costly.

I stand reminded, and if you have specific suggestions for me to check
into I'd like to hear them.

Scott wrote:
 Mike have you ruled out Chronic Lyme disease or one of its
 co-infections?
 Your symptoms sound very similar to ones I hear frequently on my lyme
 rife
 list.

Pretty much, but not definitely? I've done a lot of things that should
have affected anything bacterial, even late stage Lyme. I also have
mercury toxicity as a candidate for an underlying cause.

The loci seem to be connective tissue and lymphatic system. I have
negligible  neurological issues, none that are serious or debilitating.
None of the characteristic brain fog, for instance.

It's still something I consider. If as I tell more of my story over time
you've seen similar patterns in others, please let me know.

Thank you for being here, everyone.

Be well!

Mike D.


 








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Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-04 Thread PT Ferrance
I believe it was hydrolyzed collagen that was used in the protocol.
Have you found a new source of CMO?
PT





 From: Malcolm s...@asis.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...
 

Hi Joe,
So have I but it isn't the same as the stuff I've originally used.
Beyond a century sells a powder which probably contains some/many of the
constituents, but CMO has about 9 - guess you could call them analogs -
with varying properties and various concentrations.  The stuff I used
successfully was in a (possibly) tallow-like base but with a fairly low
melting point; I think the base was actually a reacting medium of/for
the compound itself.  At any rate it worked. I followed the original
protocol using the CMO MSM and ??? (was it glucosamine? durn!, can't
remember at this moment).  Anyway, three doses a day for ten days, avoid
fats for at least a couple of hours around taking the pills, and no
alcohol for the entire ten days. - And no coffee either, but I cheated
on that one.

I'm afraid the stuff has acquired the mystique of a miracle substance,
and so is of course sold shrouded in mystery, manufactured in
proprietary fashion - even by Harry Diehl's family.

So it goes.
Malcolm

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 09:49 -0500, Joe Huard wrote:
 I have bought cetyl myristoleate from Beyond a Century, but it's not 
 there anymore. Hmm?
 Joe
 On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote:
  Hi Mike,
  What wonderful news!  You are addressing a couple of the chronic
  problems I face; the blood pressure, and more recently pain in shoulders
  makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier
  than a half gallon of milk and now in my right hip makes walking chancy
  for 'ouch!' too.
 
  Thanks for sharing, I'll be checking out Don Croft's zapper and Brooks'
  protocol as well.
 
  In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also
  relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely
  unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become
  unavailable - at least I couldn't find it.
 
 
 
 
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RE: CS Some updates from me...

2013-12-04 Thread Scott Adams
I have certainly heard of Chronic Lyme folks with exactly what you are 
referring to, no brain fog but joint/collagen and lymph
issues. 

One thing you might try Mike is a course of salt/c for a few weeks and see if a 
Herx develops. Usually an excellent indication that
chronic lyme exists is the Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction to treatment. It is like 
feeling you have the flu without the runny nose or
cough. Salt/c is an extremely simple and cheap regimen that many Chronic Lyme 
sufferers use to good effect.

I can send more details if interested.

Scott Adams
I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet!
www.lyme-resource.com 


 -Original Message-
 From: M.G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 6:46 AM
 To: silver-list
 Subject: Re: CS Some updates from me...
 
 Hi folks,
 
 Following up on some of your questions and comments...
 
 While I haven't participated as much as I would like to have, nor have I read 
 every post, I do regularly keep tabs on traffic and
topics.
 Which is why it has happened so often that a topic comes up that I needed 
 just then. That's the case with CMO and Malcolm's
 remarks yesterday and this morning:
 
 Malcolm wrote:
  pain in shoulders makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible
  for anything heavier than a half gallon of milk
 
 Try just lifting the arm! ouchie!
 
  I'd given up on finding it again years ago but it looks like Jarrow
  has something possibly the same or similar.  I'm gonna give it a try;
  I'll let you know what comes of it.
 
  I had no help from the powder from beyond a century,
 
 The powdered CMO from BaC was one of my disappointments as well. I did a 
 course of it late last year that didn't seem to do
 anything. At least some of what I'm possibly dealing with should be T-cell 
 mediated, so it ought to have had some effect. This
gives me
 an incentive to try again.
 Thank you!
 
 PT wrote:
  About the zapper, how are you avoiding burns?
 
 I don't know. I'm very quick to move it if I get the slightest bite.
 Other than that, I tend to keep it pretty tight against the skin to maximize 
 contact area. It's usually strapped to my calf with
the top of
 a men's sock, or my upper arm with an ACE elastic bandage. Per directions I 
 polish the electrodes almost daily to remove tarnish.
That
 would also prevent hot-spots forming that would concentrate current in a 
 small area. It doesn't help if you sweat, either!
 
  Have you considered frequency treatments for the joint and
  inflammation issues?
 
 Haven't gotten to that. So far the anti-inflammatories (Bromelain, 
 Boswelliaa, Turmeric, fish oil, Beta-Sitosterol) have gotten me
on
 top of the joint issues. I'm still working a number of other strategies that 
 I'm more familiar with and that are less costly.
 
 I stand reminded, and if you have specific suggestions for me to check into 
 I'd like to hear them.
 
 Scott wrote:
  Mike have you ruled out Chronic Lyme disease or one of its
  co-infections?
  Your symptoms sound very similar to ones I hear frequently on my lyme
  rife list.
 
 Pretty much, but not definitely? I've done a lot of things that should have 
 affected anything bacterial, even late stage Lyme. I
also
 have mercury toxicity as a candidate for an underlying cause.
 
 The loci seem to be connective tissue and lymphatic system. I have negligible 
  neurological issues, none that are serious or
debilitating.
 None of the characteristic brain fog, for instance.
 
 It's still something I consider. If as I tell more of my story over time 
 you've seen similar patterns in others, please let me
know.
 
 Thank you for being here, everyone.
 
 Be well!
 
 Mike D.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-04 Thread Marshall
My family and I have used CMO from here a number of times with very good 
results:


http://cmo-usa.com/

Marshall

On 12/4/2013 12:38 AM, Malcolm wrote:

Thanks Joe,
I'd given up on finding it again years ago but it looks like Jarrow has
something possibly the same or similar.  I'm gonna give it a try; I'll
let you know what comes of it.
M.

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:07 -0500, Joe Huard wrote:

I found it listed here,
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=cetyl+myristoleate

Joe
On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote:

In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also
relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely
unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become
unavailable - at least I couldn't find it.

Thanks again!
Malcolm




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Re: CSGM crops

2013-12-04 Thread Joe Huard

Yes, and Avaaz is also offering to spread your petitions to their members.
http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/start_a_petition/?cl=3604078836v=31678source=blast

Joe
On 04/12/2013 6:43 AM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
Good luck Joe. I love change.org http://change.org, and I think it 
is a very useful tool that many of us could use for such issues.



On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca 
mailto:joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote:


Hi!

I just signed the petition Take a close look at the adverse
effects of GM crops on Change.org.

It's important. Will you sign it too? Here's the link:


http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/take-a-close-look-at-the-adverse-effects-of-gm-crops-2?share_id=dEefKHAubtutm_campaign=signature_receiptutm_medium=emailutm_source=share_petition

Thanks!

Joe


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CSCroft zapper

2013-12-04 Thread Shirley Reed
Congratulations on your success with this device.  If your experience is 
anything like mine then your benefits are just beginning.  The pain of a 
devilish heel spur (one which the physician described as a whopper and for 
which I had 2 cortisone shots (refused a third), was gone in about one hour of 
use of the zapper.  I had sat down to read while using the device for the first 
time and when I arose to get water, I was half way to the kitchen when I 
realized that I was not holding onto things to lessen the pain.  Whoop te do!!  
I zapped day and night after that and actually thought that might be the only 
benefit I would get.  However, after 2 to 3 weeks the extreeeme fatigue I had 
been experiencing for some time was gone.  I am much stronger now, but the 
unbelievable fatigue was gone quickly.   My son's acne which was pretty bad,, 
was gone in less than a week.  Redness gone in about one hour and the rest was 
healed up in less than a week.  My
 uncertainty about time involved is mostly because it has been close to 15 
years since these things took place.  I have used a zapper nearly every day 
since then.  My first one was his original one--$50.00 and a 30 day money back 
guarantee.  Best money I ever spent.  I keep a spare on hand at all times and 
keep a large supply of 9 volt batteries at all times.  I refer to the zapper as 
my immortality device.  So far, so good.  :)  Best wishes to all.   pj

Re: CSCroft zapper

2013-12-04 Thread Alan Jones
Thanks for sharing this.  I don't think he sells a $50 zapper anymore, does
he?

Do you know the specs on this zapper?  (eg. frequency, voltage, current)



On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Congratulations on your success with this device.  If your experience is
 anything like mine then your benefits are just beginning.  The pain of a
 devilish heel spur (one which the physician described as a whopper and
 for which I had 2 cortisone shots (refused a third), was gone in about one
 hour of use of the zapper.  I had sat down to read while using the device
 for the first time and when I arose to get water, I was half way to the
 kitchen when I realized that I was not holding onto things to lessen the
 pain.  Whoop te do!!  I zapped day and night after that and actually
 thought that might be the only benefit I would get.  However, after 2 to 3
 weeks the extreeeme fatigue I had been experiencing for some time was gone.
  I am much stronger now, but the unbelievable fatigue was gone quickly.
 My son's acne which was pretty bad,, was gone in less than a week.  Redness
 gone in about one hour and the rest was healed up in less than a week.  My
 uncertainty about time involved is mostly because it has been close to 15
 years since these things took place.  I have used a zapper nearly every day
 since then.  My first one was his original one--$50.00 and a 30 day money
 back guarantee.  Best money I ever spent.  I keep a spare on hand at all
 times and keep a large supply of 9 volt batteries at all times.  I refer to
 the zapper as my immortality device.  So far, so good.  :)  Best wishes to
 all.   pj




-- 
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)


CSReply

2013-12-04 Thread Phil Morrison
Sota Instrument silver pulser is a blood energizer.

Blood cells might be under performing.

Pulser whips cells back to normal again.


Re: CSCroft zapper

2013-12-04 Thread Alan Jones
I went to Don Croft's site and his site endorses this site for basic $35
zappers:

   http://www.ctbusters.com/shop/store/product/basic_zapper/


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for sharing this.  I don't think he sells a $50 zapper anymore,
 does he?

 Do you know the specs on this zapper?  (eg. frequency, voltage, current)



 On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Congratulations on your success with this device.  If your experience is
 anything like mine then your benefits are just beginning.  The pain of a
 devilish heel spur (one which the physician described as a whopper and
 for which I had 2 cortisone shots (refused a third), was gone in about one
 hour of use of the zapper.  I had sat down to read while using the device
 for the first time and when I arose to get water, I was half way to the
 kitchen when I realized that I was not holding onto things to lessen the
 pain.  Whoop te do!!  I zapped day and night after that and actually
 thought that might be the only benefit I would get.  However, after 2 to 3
 weeks the extreeeme fatigue I had been experiencing for some time was gone.
  I am much stronger now, but the unbelievable fatigue was gone quickly.
 My son's acne which was pretty bad,, was gone in less than a week.  Redness
 gone in about one hour and the rest was healed up in less than a week.  My
 uncertainty about time involved is mostly because it has been close to 15
 years since these things took place.  I have used a zapper nearly every day
 since then.  My first one was his original one--$50.00 and a 30 day money
 back guarantee.  Best money I ever spent.  I keep a spare on hand at all
 times and keep a large supply of 9 volt batteries at all times.  I refer to
 the zapper as my immortality device.  So far, so good.  :)  Best wishes to
 all.   pj




 --
 Alan Jones

 The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)




-- 
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)


Re: CSCroft zapper

2013-12-04 Thread Beth Toraason
There are several on eBay, ranging from about $35 to $135.
Beth T
On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Alan Jones wrote:

 Thanks for sharing this.  I don't think he sells a $50 zapper anymore, does 
 he?
 
 Do you know the specs on this zapper?  (eg. frequency, voltage, current)
 
 
 
 On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Congratulations on your success with this device.  If your experience is 
 anything like mine then your benefits are just beginning.  The pain of a 
 devilish heel spur (one which the physician described as a whopper and for 
 which I had 2 cortisone shots (refused a third), was gone in about one hour 
 of use of the zapper.  I had sat down to read while using the device for the 
 first time and when I arose to get water, I was half way to the kitchen when 
 I realized that I was not holding onto things to lessen the pain.  Whoop te 
 do!!  I zapped day and night after that and actually thought that might be 
 the only benefit I would get.  However, after 2 to 3 weeks the extreeeme 
 fatigue I had been experiencing for some time was gone.  I am much stronger 
 now, but the unbelievable fatigue was gone quickly.   My son's acne which was 
 pretty bad,, was gone in less than a week.  Redness gone in about one hour 
 and the rest was healed up in less than a week.  My uncertainty about time 
 involved is mostly because it has been close to 15 years since these things 
 took place.  I have used a zapper nearly every day since then.  My first one 
 was his original one--$50.00 and a 30 day money back guarantee.  Best money I 
 ever spent.  I keep a spare on hand at all times and keep a large supply of 9 
 volt batteries at all times.  I refer to the zapper as my immortality device. 
  So far, so good.  :)  Best wishes to all.   pj
 
 
 
 -- 
 Alan Jones
 
 The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor 
 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or 
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)



Re: CSCroft zapper

2013-12-04 Thread M.G. Devour
Alan wrote:
 I don't think [Don Croft] sells a $50 zapper anymore, does he?

Yeah, as you point out in answer to your own question, he endorses a few
people who are making zappers of the same basic electrical and physical
design without the metaphysical components whose value one can argue
'til the cows come home but could only be tested by careful studies (and
possibly not even then! grin).

 Do you know the specs on this zapper?  (eg. frequency, voltage,
current)

I know it runs off a 9V battery, puts out a 15 Hertz square wave, and
open circuit voltage is supposed to be a bit less than 4.5 volts,
indicating slightly less than a 50% duty cycle, If I am remembering
correctly what I've read on Don's site.

I assume there is at least a current limiting resistor in series with
the output to keep the current in a safe and comfortable range. You'd
have to test that assumption by, for instance, putting your voltmeter
across the electrodes and then maybe touching both with your dampened
fingers and seeing how much the voltage drops. If it does drop, then
there's at least a resistor in line. Find the value of resistance that
drops the voltage by half and you've got the value of the current
limiter.

For any more detail than that I'd have to take mine apart, which I'm not
planning to do any time soon. smile

Even I wouldn't baulk at one of the units for less than $40, though.
It'd be easier than building one unless you already have the electronics
skills and a well stuffed junk box.

Be well!

Mike D.




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CSMMS testimonials

2013-12-04 Thread Alan Jones
I know lots of people aren't on board with MMS, but there's some pretty
nice testimonials on this Youtube channel.  I think the newer protocols
they came up with help a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMxDVGHL2NMfeature=em-uploademail

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