Re: [Simh] KS10 and the DMR

2014-03-05 Thread Mark Pizzolato - Info Comm
This issue has been discovered, but no real resolution has been discovered to 
resolve it.   It is open on the github issue system at:  
https://github.com/simh/simh/issues/100

You guys seem to be digging in the right direction.  If/when this process gets 
far enough to actually engage the DMR device more than the basic bus probe and 
'are you there' device initialization which we've seen so far, there may indeed 
be problems with the DMR implementation.  I'd be glad to see that so I can fix 
it.   Please keep me advised.  Commenting in the github issue would be good, 
but here on the simh list will also work.

Thanks.


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[Simh] SEL computer information

2014-03-05 Thread AZ Bevier
Hello all,

I have lots of Gould/Encore/SEL software/manuals that I have developed/used 
over the last 35 years.  I am getting old(er) and wish to see this information 
used for something.  I have original manuals (lots) and many cross-development  
tools.  Such as a C compiler, runtime library, assembler, library editor, make 
facility, disassembler, debugger, lots of tools, etc.  I have the original 
source.  These tools run on Linux and target SEL Concept/32 machines.  Where 
can I send this stuff to.  Is anybody interested?  Let me know what I can do 
with all this stuff.

Thanks,

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Re: [Simh] KS10 and the DMR

2014-03-05 Thread simh
With the search functionality in the archive one can retrieve some older
versions of D8RINT.MAC

On the TSU for 704 there is no one distributed, so the last is for 704.

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Re: [Simh] KS10 and the DMR

2014-03-05 Thread simh
Trying to see whether it would work on Tops10-703 as probably nearby enough
to 702, the following emerges: 
somehow on the 703 Decnet distribution tape a D8RINT version already for the
704 monitor version has been shipped as it has code on board referring to
code pieces only existing in other monitor modules from 704 onwards. It can
be checked against the difference between the versions of it's ancestor
D8KINT. 

I know, status of D8RINT was effective unsupported although the various
hooks to it do exist in supported monitor modules, but this flaw should not
have happened. D8RINT as shipped in 703 Decnet cannot be used in the 703
monitor generation. 

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Re: [Simh] KS10 and the DMR

2014-03-05 Thread Cory Smelosky

On Thu, 6 Mar 2014, R. Voorhorst wrote:


Might you know by chance where the 705 set can be retrieved; as far as I
know 705 was the result of various patches applied to 704 and not released
as a separate version.



I _think_ it's the TSU tapes on http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com/


Best regards



A newer one /might/ have been included with the 7.05 monitor set.  Not sure

though.


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Re: [Simh] KS10 and the DMR

2014-03-05 Thread simh
Might you know by chance where the 705 set can be retrieved; as far as I
know 705 was the result of various patches applied to 704 and not released
as a separate version.

Best regards


>A newer one /might/ have been included with the 7.05 monitor set.  Not sure
though.

> Best regards
>
> Volledige inhoud weergeven
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Re: [Simh] KS10 and the DMR

2014-03-05 Thread Cory Smelosky

On Thu, 6 Mar 2014, s...@swabhawat.com wrote:


Does anyone know of later releases of D8RINT and or what the last working
combination was. The errors found - thus far - have nothing to do with the
hardware interaction itself or Simh emulation of it proper; it is pure
Tops10 bebaviour.



A newer one /might/ have been included with the 7.05 monitor set.  Not 
sure though.



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[Simh] KS10 and the DMR

2014-03-05 Thread simh
When trying to make the combination Simh KS10 work with the DMR synchronous
line interface on Tops10-704; some peculiarities are encountered. 

Has anyone at the time seen this combination effectively work on the real
hardware? 
The driver for DMR is D8RINT.MAC in UNSMON and is created for Tops10-702 by
Timothe Litt and he stated in the documentation that performance had been
checked in relation to the standard supported Kdp/Dup combination, so
something must have worked at the time, whether within Dec laboratory or in
the real world with some special customers. 

However by EDDT debugging the monitor 704, it is now clear that with the
current releases of D8RINT and Tops10-704 it is impossible to function
because of at least 2 errors in de code; one in D8RINT itself which on
itself can be easily repaired, but leads to another second error found in
SYSINI in Tops10; the relative location in SYSINI and possibly the form of
the DMRONC routine creates race conditions on establishing the unibus map in
the DMR control block leading to stopcode UBA. 

Does anyone know of later releases of D8RINT and or what the last working
combination was. The errors found - thus far - have nothing to do with the
hardware interaction itself or Simh emulation of it proper; it is pure
Tops10 bebaviour. 

Best regards 

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