Re: [SLUG] Evolution - how does it send the mail?

2003-08-14 Thread Mary
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003, Mary wrote:
 The first thing to check is to dig around in the settings of Evolution
 and KMail and make sure they're set to use the same mail relay/SMTP
 server/mail server (different names for the same thing) to send mail.

Sorry, missing solution: set Evolution's mail relay/SMTP server/mail
server to whatever KMail has it set to, since Evolution's is probably
wrong, and KMail's evidently works.

-Mary
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Re: [SLUG] Evolution - how does it send the mail?

2003-08-14 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=andrew fries

 Could someone tell me whether Evolution is self-sufficient when sending mail, 
 or does it rely on some other daemon to perform this function?

You can choose to use the local sendmail, or SMTP. Just change it in the
account settings. You've probably got it set to sendmail, without having a
complete MTA setup on your system.

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Evolution - how does it send the mail?

2003-08-11 Thread Mary
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003, andrew fries wrote:
 Could someone tell me whether Evolution is self-sufficient when sending mail, 
 or does it rely on some other daemon to perform this function?

Evolution, like most mail clients, talks simple SMTP -- enough to send
mail to a relay.

 I have this problem on a freshly installed Arch Linux system: Evolution will 
 not send my mail (though it will receive OK), responding to all attempts with 
 this message:
 
 error while performing operation: MAIL FROM response error: command 
 unrecognized: 

A very simple SMTP (mail protocol) session looks like this
(client.example.com is connecting to relay mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] via the mail relay relay.example.com). The numbers (220,
250, 354, 221) and the commands in capitals (HELO, MAIL, RCPT, DATA,
QUIT) are the important parts of the protocol.

client.example.com connects to port 25 of relay.example.com
relay.example.com says: 220 relay.example.com ESMTP Postfix (Debian/GNU)
client.example.com says: HELO client.example.com
relay.example.com says: 250 relay.example.com
client.example.com says: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
relay.example.com says: 250 Ok
client.example.com says: RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
relay.example.com says: 250 Ok
client.example.com says: DATA
relay.example.com says: 354 End data with CRLF.CRLF
client.example.com says: This is the mail.
client.example.com says: .
relay.example.com says: 250 Ok: queued as 867CC1018C
client.example.com says: QUIT
relay.example.com says: 221 Bye
relay.example.com closes the connection.

The bit of this you should recognise is MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
because you're getting an error message about MAIL FROM. This looks like
one of the following:

 - this version of Evolution can't talk basic SMTP (very unlikely)
 - whatever mail relay Evolution is trying to use is having some
   problems (most likely: it isn't actually a mail relay)

The first thing to check is to dig around in the settings of Evolution
and KMail and make sure they're set to use the same mail relay/SMTP
server/mail server (different names for the same thing) to send mail.

-Mary
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RE: [SLUG] Evolution - how does it send the mail?

2003-08-05 Thread Ben de Luca
Is it possible that your mail from address is set to be nothing? And the
smtp server wont send on the mail unless there is some thing set?

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Subject: [SLUG] Evolution - how does it send the mail?

Could someone tell me whether Evolution is self-sufficient when sending
mail, 
or does it rely on some other daemon to perform this function?

I have this problem on a freshly installed Arch Linux system: Evolution
will 
not send my mail (though it will receive OK), responding to all attempts
with 
this message:

error while performing operation: MAIL FROM response error: command 
unrecognized: 
 
because my understanding of just how mail really works is very hazy at
best, 
I'm not sure where the problem might be - on Suse, Libranet and even 
Slackware Evolution always just worked, but this is Arch Linux - it
won't do 
anything unless you tell it to :) So it could be I need to start some
other 
process. Someone suggested Exim, so  I started Exim but its logs didn't
show 
any activity when Evo was trying to send.  

BTW, I'm sending this message from that same Arch system, using Kmail.
It's 
only Evolution that's having problems... any suggestions?


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