Re: [sniffer] log file growing

2004-04-13 Thread Pete McNeil


Any time is fine. How about 0100 ET. - I'm pretty sure that spot is
mostly empty.
_M
At 09:17 PM 4/13/2004, you wrote:
It is working, I tested it from
the command line.  What time of day do you want it run?


- Original Message - 

From: Pete McNeil


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 7:06 PM

Subject: Re: [sniffer] log file growing

First, give it a test by launching it manually to make sure it's not broken.

If that works then set up a scheduled task to run the .cmd once a day (that's usually enough).

That should be it.

Thanks!

_M

At 05:57 PM 4/13/2004, you wrote:

Ok,

 

There is a logrotate.cmd that you modified for me.  I don't know why it isn't kicking off automatically like it was before, but it isn't.  It had been running automatically for months.

 

How do you recommend doing that so that you get the log files when you want them?

 

Thanks, Andy

 

 

- Original Message - 
From: Pete McNeil 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [sniffer] log file growing

Usually the log rotation is handled in a different .cmd.
I guess it could have been cobbled together but I don't recall doing it.

You can get the starter scripts here:


http://www.sortmonster.net/Sniffer/Updates/WindowsTools.zip

ftp://ftp.sortmonster.net/Sniffer/Updates/WindowsTools.zip


A number of user submitted scripts are also available at the bottom of the Automated Updates Help page:

http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/AutomatingUpdatesHelp.html

Hope this helps,
_M

At 12:56 PM 4/12/2004, you wrote:
Hi,

The .snf file is up to date, so the program alias is working.

I ran the autosnf.cmd file you help me setup and it is working with no
errors, but it isn't doing anything with rotating the log files, as it was
before.I have no idea why.,

I do know that you had set it up for me to rotate the logs...can you send me
the section of the autosnf.cmd file that is missing that does that?

Thanks, andy

- Original Message -
From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [sniffer] log file growing


> H,
>
> If we were triggering it - then that would have been our update
> notification message. If that's stopped working then you might want to
look
> at your rulebase to see that it's up to date...
>
> What you're looking for is a program alias that launches your update
script.
>
> That's the best place to start.
> You can probably send yourself a message to that address to trigger (or
> not) the events and see what is broken.
>
> Hope this helps,
> _M
>
> At 08:23 AM 4/10/2004, you wrote:
> >Ok,
> >
> >That's what's happening.  It was being rotated.  You helped me set that
up.
> >I haven't changed/moved anything so it has stopped working...  It was
being
> >initiated automatically by an email sent by you to the system in Imail.
> >
> >Where do I look?
> >
> >Thanks, andy
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 3:20 PM
> >Subject: Re: [sniffer] log file growing
> >
> >
> > > At 12:18 PM 4/9/2004, you wrote:
> > > >HI,
> > > >
> > > >My log file used to write to a new file everyday, now it is writing
to
> >the
> > > >same file...
> > > >
> > > >I didn't change anything, how do I fix it?
> > >
> > > This is confusing. Message Sniffer has always written to a single log
file
> > > that does not change. External utilities could be used to rotate the
log
> > > file as needed.
> > >
> > > The only time this has changed is with the new beta which includes a
> > > command option for persistent servers:
> > >
> > > [snflicid.exe] rotate
> > >
> > > If this command is run and you are running a persistent instance of
> >sniffer
> > > then the log file will be rotated to [snflicid].log.mmddhhmmss.
> > >
> > > This does not happen automatically and never did in the past.
> > >
> > > If your log file was being rotated then it was handled by another
utility
> > > on your system and that utility has stopped working.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > > _M
> > >
> > > PS:
> > >    snflicid = your specific sniffer license id.
> > >    mmddhhmmss = date/time stamp in a compressed ISO format.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For
information
> >and (un)subscription instructions go to
> >http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
> > >
> >
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[sniffer] Download Problem

2004-04-13 Thread Frederick Samarelli
Pete.
I am seeing major download problems of the SNF file tonight.

Any problems with others.

Fred


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Re: [sniffer] log file growing

2004-04-13 Thread andyb



It is working, I tested it from the command line.  What time of day do 
you want it run?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Pete McNeil 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 7:06 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [sniffer] log file 
  growing
  First, give it a test by launching it manually to make sure 
  it's not broken.If that works then set up a scheduled task to run the 
  .cmd once a day (that's usually enough).That should be 
  it.Thanks!_MAt 05:57 PM 4/13/2004, you wrote:
  Ok, There is a 
logrotate.cmd that you modified for me.  I don't know why it isn't 
kicking off automatically like it was before, but it isn't.  It had 
been running automatically for months. How do you recommend doing that so that you get the log files when 
you want them? Thanks, 
Andy  

  - Original Message - 
  From: Pete McNeil 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [sniffer] log file growing
  Usually the log rotation is handled in a different .cmd.
  I guess it could have been cobbled together but I don't recall doing 
  it.
  You can get the starter scripts here:
  
http://www.sortmonster.net/Sniffer/Updates/WindowsTools.zip
ftp://ftp.sortmonster.net/Sniffer/Updates/WindowsTools.zip
  A number of user submitted scripts are also available at the bottom of 
  the Automated Updates Help page:
  http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/AutomatingUpdatesHelp.html
  Hope this helps,
  _M
  At 12:56 PM 4/12/2004, you wrote:
  
Hi,
The .snf file is up to date, so the program alias is 
working.
I ran the autosnf.cmd file you help me setup and it is working with 
no
errors, but it isn't doing anything with rotating the log files, as 
it was
before.I have no idea why.,
I do know that you had set it up for me to rotate the logs...can you 
send me
the section of the autosnf.cmd file that is missing that does 
that?
Thanks, andy
- Original Message -
From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [sniffer] log file growing
> H,
>
> If we were triggering it - then that would have been our 
update
> notification message. If that's stopped working then you might 
want to
look
> at your rulebase to see that it's up to date...
>
> What you're looking for is a program alias that launches your 
update
script.
>
> That's the best place to start.
> You can probably send yourself a message to that address to 
trigger (or
> not) the events and see what is broken.
>
> Hope this helps,
> _M
>
> At 08:23 AM 4/10/2004, you wrote:
> >Ok,
> >
> >That's what's happening.  It was being rotated.  
You helped me set that
up.
> >I haven't changed/moved anything so it has stopped 
working...  It was
being
> >initiated automatically by an email sent by you to the 
system in Imail.
> >
> >Where do I look?
> >
> >Thanks, andy
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 3:20 PM
> >Subject: Re: [sniffer] log file growing
> >
> >
> > > At 12:18 PM 4/9/2004, you wrote:
> > > >HI,
> > > >
> > > >My log file used to write to a new file everyday, 
now it is writing
to
> >the
> > > >same file...
> > > >
> > > >I didn't change anything, how do I fix it?
> > >
> > > This is confusing. Message Sniffer has always written 
to a single log
file
> > > that does not change. External utilities could be 
used to rotate the
log
> > > file as needed.
> > >
> > > The only time this has changed is with the new beta 
which includes a
> > > command option for persistent servers:
> > >
> > > [snflicid.exe] rotate
> > >
> > > If this command is run and you are running a 
persistent instance of
> >sniffer
> > > then the log file will be rotated to 
[snflicid].log.mmddhhmmss.
> > >
> > > This does not happen automatically and never did in 
the past.
> > >
> > > If your log file was being rotated then it was 
handled by another
utility
> > > on your system and that utility has stopped 
working.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,

Re: [sniffer] log file growing

2004-04-13 Thread Pete McNeil


First, give it a test by launching it manually to make sure it's not
broken.
If that works then set up a scheduled task to run the .cmd once a day
(that's usually enough).
That should be it.
Thanks!
_M
At 05:57 PM 4/13/2004, you wrote:
Ok,
 
There is a logrotate.cmd that you modified for
me.  I don't know why it isn't kicking off automatically like it was
before, but it isn't.  It had been running automatically for
months.
 
How do you recommend doing that so that you get
the log files when you want them?
 
Thanks, Andy
 
 


- Original Message - 

From: Pete McNeil


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:09 PM

Subject: Re: [sniffer] log file growing

Usually the log rotation is handled in a different .cmd.

I guess it could have been cobbled together but I don't recall doing it.

You can get the starter scripts here:


http://www.sortmonster.net/Sniffer/Updates/WindowsTools.zip

ftp://ftp.sortmonster.net/Sniffer/Updates/WindowsTools.zip

A number of user submitted scripts are also available at the bottom of the Automated Updates Help page:

http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/AutomatingUpdatesHelp.html

Hope this helps,

_M

At 12:56 PM 4/12/2004, you wrote:

Hi,

The .snf file is up to date, so the program alias is working.

I ran the autosnf.cmd file you help me setup and it is working with no

errors, but it isn't doing anything with rotating the log files, as it was

before.I have no idea why.,

I do know that you had set it up for me to rotate the logs...can you send me

the section of the autosnf.cmd file that is missing that does that?

Thanks, andy

- Original Message -

From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 9:12 AM

Subject: Re: [sniffer] log file growing


> H,

>

> If we were triggering it - then that would have been our update

> notification message. If that's stopped working then you might want to

look

> at your rulebase to see that it's up to date...

>

> What you're looking for is a program alias that launches your update

script.

>

> That's the best place to start.

> You can probably send yourself a message to that address to trigger (or

> not) the events and see what is broken.

>

> Hope this helps,

> _M

>

> At 08:23 AM 4/10/2004, you wrote:

> >Ok,

> >

> >That's what's happening.  It was being rotated.  You helped me set that

up.

> >I haven't changed/moved anything so it has stopped working...  It was

being

> >initiated automatically by an email sent by you to the system in Imail.

> >

> >Where do I look?

> >

> >Thanks, andy

> >

> >- Original Message -

> >From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> >Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 3:20 PM

> >Subject: Re: [sniffer] log file growing

> >

> >

> > > At 12:18 PM 4/9/2004, you wrote:

> > > >HI,

> > > >

> > > >My log file used to write to a new file everyday, now it is writing

to

> >the

> > > >same file...

> > > >

> > > >I didn't change anything, how do I fix it?

> > >

> > > This is confusing. Message Sniffer has always written to a single log

file

> > > that does not change. External utilities could be used to rotate the

log

> > > file as needed.

> > >

> > > The only time this has changed is with the new beta which includes a

> > > command option for persistent servers:

> > >

> > > [snflicid.exe] rotate

> > >

> > > If this command is run and you are running a persistent instance of

> >sniffer

> > > then the log file will be rotated to [snflicid].log.mmddhhmmss.

> > >

> > > This does not happen automatically and never did in the past.

> > >

> > > If your log file was being rotated then it was handled by another

utility

> > > on your system and that utility has stopped working.

> > >

> > > Hope this helps,

> > >

> > > _M

> > >

> > > PS:

> > >    snflicid = your specific sniffer license id.

> > >    mmddhhmmss = date/time stamp in a compressed ISO format.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For

information

> >and (un)subscription instructions go to

> >http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html

> > >

> >

> >

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Re: [sniffer] log file growing

2004-04-13 Thread andyb



Ok,
 
There is a logrotate.cmd that you modified for 
me.  I don't know why it isn't kicking off automatically like it was 
before, but it isn't.  It had been running automatically for 
months.
 
How do you recommend doing that so that you get the 
log files when you want them?
 
Thanks, Andy
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Pete McNeil 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:09 
PM
  Subject: Re: [sniffer] log file 
  growing
  Usually the log rotation is handled in a different .cmd.I 
  guess it could have been cobbled together but I don't recall doing 
  it.You can get the starter scripts here:
  
http://www.sortmonster.net/Sniffer/Updates/WindowsTools.zip
ftp://ftp.sortmonster.net/Sniffer/Updates/WindowsTools.zipA 
  number of user submitted scripts are also available at the bottom of the 
  Automated Updates Help page:http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/AutomatingUpdatesHelp.htmlHope 
  this helps,_MAt 12:56 PM 4/12/2004, you wrote:
  Hi,The .snf file is up to 
date, so the program alias is working.I ran the autosnf.cmd file you 
help me setup and it is working with noerrors, but it isn't doing 
anything with rotating the log files, as it wasbefore.I have no idea 
why.,I do know that you had set it up for me to rotate the 
logs...can you send methe section of the autosnf.cmd file that is 
missing that does that?Thanks, andy- Original Message 
-From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 9:12 
AMSubject: Re: [sniffer] log file growing> 
H,>> If we were triggering it - then that would have been 
our update> notification message. If that's stopped working then you 
might want tolook> at your rulebase to see that it's up to 
date...>> What you're looking for is a program alias that 
launches your updatescript.>> That's the best place to 
start.> You can probably send yourself a message to that address to 
trigger (or> not) the events and see what is broken.>> 
Hope this helps,> _M>> At 08:23 AM 4/10/2004, you 
wrote:> >Ok,> >> >That's what's 
happening.  It was being rotated.  You helped me set 
thatup.> >I haven't changed/moved anything so it has stopped 
working...  It wasbeing> >initiated automatically by an 
email sent by you to the system in Imail.> >> >Where do 
I look?> >> >Thanks, andy> >> >- 
Original Message -> >From: "Pete McNeil" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >To: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 
3:20 PM> >Subject: Re: [sniffer] log file growing> 
>> >> > > At 12:18 PM 4/9/2004, you wrote:> 
> > >HI,> > > >> > > >My log file 
used to write to a new file everyday, now it is writingto> 
>the> > > >same file...> > > >> 
> > >I didn't change anything, how do I fix it?> > 
>> > > This is confusing. Message Sniffer has always written 
to a single logfile> > > that does not change. External 
utilities could be used to rotate thelog> > > file as 
needed.> > >> > > The only time this has changed 
is with the new beta which includes a> > > command option for 
persistent servers:> > >> > > [snflicid.exe] 
rotate> > >> > > If this command is run and you 
are running a persistent instance of> >sniffer> > > 
then the log file will be rotated to [snflicid].log.mmddhhmmss.> 
> >> > > This does not happen automatically and never did 
in the past.> > >> > > If your log file was being 
rotated then it was handled by anotherutility> > > on your 
system and that utility has stopped working.> > >> > 
> Hope this helps,> > >> > > _M> > 
>> > > PS:> > >    snflicid = 
your specific sniffer license id.> > >    
mmddhhmmss = date/time stamp in a compressed ISO format.> > 
>> > >> > >> > > This E-Mail came 
from the Message Sniffer mailing list. Forinformation> >and 
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RE: [sniffer] Final beta (b2) for snfrv2r3

2004-04-13 Thread Pete McNeil


That's fantastic news... Another mystery bites the dust!
_M
At 09:56 AM 4/13/2004, you wrote:
Pete,
 
The speed problem has been
found. McAfee Netshield 4.51 was making our server RIDICULOUSLY slow,
despite the fact that we tried excluding the Sniffer folder and even
disabling the service from the tray-icon. Upgrading to Virusscan
Enterprise 7.x fixed our problem and our performance levels are in the
regions that you mentioned.
 
Thanks for thinking 
along!
 
 
Groet, (regards)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Michiel Prins
Sent: donderdag 8 april 2004 21:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Final beta (b2) for snfrv2r3

Preliminary tests show there's
no I/O problem but I'll do some additional benchmarking here and get back
to you on this.
 
Groet, (regards)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: woensdag 7 april 2004 17:38
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Final beta (b2) for snfrv2r3

Extraordinary...
Compare with a snippet from our IMail/NT4 test platform (severely
underpowered)...
snf2beta 20040407140913 D0b86122.SMD 30 90 Final 75148 63 0
6891 68
snf2beta 20040407140913 D0b8614e.SMD 90 140 Final 103691 57 0 8878
72
snf2beta 20040407140914 D0b88122.SMD 40 141 Final 103689 57 0 9003
71
snf2beta 20040407140915 D0b880b6.SMD 90 20 Final 106244 52 0 817 65
snf2beta 20040407140916 D0b8a0de.SMD 40 210 Final 104044 52 0 8779
76
snf2beta 20040407140917 D0b8b122.SMD 30 60 Final 70077 53 0 3727 73
snf2beta 20040407140920 D0b8e0b6.SMD 20 40 Clean 0 0 0 2958 54
snf2beta 20040407140927 D0b960b6.SMD 30 80 Final 30439 54 0 3885 73
snf2beta 20040407140934 D0b930b6.SMD 20 40 Clean 0 0 0 2647 67
snf2beta 20040407140935 D0b9e0a8.SMD 20 130 Final 73558 52 0 6242 
80
snf2beta 20040407140942 D0ba414e.SMD 20 160 Final 105444 52 0 8252
87
snf2beta 20040407140942 D0ba40de.SMD 201 60 Final 105825 52 0 3351
68
snf2beta 20040407140947 D0baa0b6.SMD 30 121 Final 30439 54 0 3898 
72
snf2beta 20040407140947 D0baa14e.SMD 40 80 Final 66835 52 0 5358 64
snf2beta 20040407140952 D0bad122.SMD 20 110 Final 97422 57 0 6104 
79
snf2beta 20040407140952 D0bae0d2.SMD 30 81 Final 83761 57 0 4790 72
snf2beta 20040407140952 D0bac0b6.SMD 40 90 Final 1686 48 0 5415 80
snf2beta 20040407141003 D0bb90b6.SMD 20 40 Final 49992 54 0 2186 69

The first thing I notice is that the setup times (first number) on
your system are consistently large. According to your log entries it is
taking a quarter of a second to scan the working directory for a job...
That's a LOT of time for a directory scan to take.
The message scan itself doesn't seem to be out of range.
The next thing I notice is that your messages arrive several seconds
apart consistently. I see 10 sec, 16, 12, 4, 10, etc... In our log we
frequently scan several messages in the same second.
I see two things going on based on this data:
I suspect your system is I/O bound. There is no reason that a directory
scan should take more than a few tens of milliseconds except
occasionally... That puts your numbers out by nearly an order of
magnitude (compare 20s & 30s w/ 109, 187, 280+!). 
Be sure that Sniffer's working directory does not have any extra files in
it. Sniffer instances measure their apparent work load by counting the
number of files in their working directory... The theory is that aside
from a handful of necessary files the rest are jobs waiting to be
processed... so if the number of files is large then the load must be
high and so a Sniffer instance should be prepared to wait a bit longer
for service.
Sniffer should be running in it's own directory with no other files
present that don't need to be there. Be sure to clean out any dead job
files that might have built up with a prior error etc...
My thinking on I/O is that if it takes 100-280 msec to scan the directory
for job files then it's likely to take quite a while to load any program
- including the shell. This can explain the additional time you are
seeing in your measurements. Under normal circumstances I would expect
that operation to happen almost instantaneously since the Sniffer
executable,

RE: [sniffer] Final beta (b2) for snfrv2r3

2004-04-13 Thread Michiel Prins



Pete,
 
The speed problem has been found. McAfee Netshield 4.51 was 
making our server RIDICULOUSLY slow, despite the fact that we tried excluding 
the Sniffer folder and even disabling the service from the tray-icon. Upgrading 
to Virusscan Enterprise 7.x fixed our problem and our performance levels are in 
the regions that you mentioned.
 
Thanks for thinking along!
 
 

Groet, (regards)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michiel 
PrinsSent: donderdag 8 april 2004 21:11To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [sniffer] Final beta (b2) for 
snfrv2r3

Preliminary tests show there's no I/O problem but I'll do some 
additional benchmarking here and get back to you on 
this.
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete 
McNeilSent: woensdag 7 april 2004 17:38To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [sniffer] Final beta (b2) for 
snfrv2r3
Extraordinary...Compare with a snippet from our IMail/NT4 test 
platform (severely underpowered)...snf2beta 20040407140913 
D0b86122.SMD 30 90 Final 75148 63 0 6891 68snf2beta 20040407140913 
D0b8614e.SMD 90 140 Final 103691 57 0 8878 72snf2beta 20040407140914 
D0b88122.SMD 40 141 Final 103689 57 0 9003 71snf2beta 20040407140915 
D0b880b6.SMD 90 20 Final 106244 52 0 817 65snf2beta 20040407140916 
D0b8a0de.SMD 40 210 Final 104044 52 0 8779 76snf2beta 20040407140917 
D0b8b122.SMD 30 60 Final 70077 53 0 3727 73snf2beta 20040407140920 
D0b8e0b6.SMD 20 40 Clean 0 0 0 2958 54snf2beta 20040407140927 D0b960b6.SMD 
30 80 Final 30439 54 0 3885 73snf2beta 20040407140934 D0b930b6.SMD 20 40 
Clean 0 0 0 2647 67snf2beta 20040407140935 D0b9e0a8.SMD 20 130 Final 73558 
52 0 6242 80snf2beta 20040407140942 D0ba414e.SMD 20 160 Final 105444 52 0 
8252 87snf2beta 20040407140942 D0ba40de.SMD 201 60 Final 105825 52 0 3351 
68snf2beta 20040407140947 D0baa0b6.SMD 30 121 Final 30439 54 0 3898 
72snf2beta 20040407140947 D0baa14e.SMD 40 80 Final 66835 52 0 5358 
64snf2beta 20040407140952 D0bad122.SMD 20 110 Final 97422 57 0 6104 
79snf2beta 20040407140952 D0bae0d2.SMD 30 81 Final 83761 57 0 4790 
72snf2beta 20040407140952 D0bac0b6.SMD 40 90 Final 1686 48 0 5415 
80snf2beta 20040407141003 D0bb90b6.SMD 20 40 Final 49992 54 0 2186 
69The first thing I notice is that the setup times (first number) 
on your system are consistently large. According to your log entries it is 
taking a quarter of a second to scan the working directory for a job... That's a 
LOT of time for a directory scan to take.The message scan itself doesn't 
seem to be out of range.The next thing I notice is that your messages 
arrive several seconds apart consistently. I see 10 sec, 16, 12, 4, 10, etc... 
In our log we frequently scan several messages in the same second.I see 
two things going on based on this data:I suspect your system is I/O 
bound. There is no reason that a directory scan should take more than a few tens 
of milliseconds except occasionally... That puts your numbers out by nearly an 
order of magnitude (compare 20s & 30s w/ 109, 187, 280+!). Be sure 
that Sniffer's working directory does not have any extra files in it. Sniffer 
instances measure their apparent work load by counting the number of files in 
their working directory... The theory is that aside from a handful of necessary 
files the rest are jobs waiting to be processed... so if the number of files is 
large then the load must be high and so a Sniffer instance should be prepared to 
wait a bit longer for service.Sniffer should be running in it's own 
directory with no other files present that don't need to be there. Be sure to 
clean out any dead job files that might have built up with a prior error 
etc...My thinking on I/O is that if it takes 100-280 msec to scan the 
directory for job files then it's likely to take quite a while to load any 
program - including the shell. This can explain the additional time you are 
seeing in your measurements. Under normal circumstances I would expect that 
operation to happen almost instantaneously since the Sniffer executable, command 
shell, and other files that must load should remai