Re: [Standards] XEP-0136: Message Archiving moved to Deprecated
Thu, 16 Nov 2017 11:50:55 +0300 Kozlov Konstantin wrote: > It's a nice idea to recommend experimental XEP's. I agree with your irony, but this is the case where formal rules don't work as planned. ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
Re: [Standards] XEP-0136: Message Archiving moved to Deprecated
It's a nice idea to recommend experimental XEP's.16.11.2017, 11:45, "Evgeny Khramtsov" :Thu, 16 Nov 2017 11:42:58 +0300Kozlov Konstantinwrote: Bad thing is that developers of new clents don't know which XEP to implement. XEP-0136 (which is deprecated) or XEP-0313 (which is still experimental and may be deferred, retracted and so on).MAM is recommended by the compliance suite.___Standards mailing listInfo: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standardsUnsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org__ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
Re: [Standards] XEP-0136: Message Archiving moved to Deprecated
Thu, 16 Nov 2017 11:42:58 +0300 Kozlov Konstantin wrote: > Bad thing is that developers of new clents don't know which XEP to > implement. XEP-0136 (which is deprecated) or XEP-0313 (which is still > experimental and may be deferred, retracted and so on). MAM is recommended by the compliance suite. ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
Re: [Standards] XEP-0136: Message Archiving moved to Deprecated
Bad thing is that developers of new clents don't know which XEP to implement.XEP-0136 (which is deprecated) or XEP-0313 (which is still experimental and may be deferred, retracted and so on).16.11.2017, 11:12, "Dave Cridland" :On 16 Nov 2017 7:43 am, "Kozlov Konstantin"wrote:Too bad...XEP-0313 is still experimental and XEP-0136 is deprecated already.No, it's a good thing. While MAM isn't quite Draft yet, the council was confident it will be very soon, and is clearly what we want new implementations to be doing.Deprecated didn't mean that people must not implement, and certainly not that they must remove existing code - it means that we don't think a new client or server should go that route today.16.11.2017, 00:25, "Sam Whited" :Hi all,This email is to let you know that XEP-0136: Message Archiving [1] hasbeen moved to a stats of Deprecated per a vote of the Council. The newversion will be published and live on the website soon.—Sam[1]: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0136.html___Standards mailing listInfo: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standardsUnsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org___ ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___ ,___Standards mailing listInfo: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standardsUnsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org__ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
Re: [Standards] XEP-0136: Message Archiving moved to Deprecated
On 16 Nov 2017 7:43 am, "Kozlov Konstantin" wrote: Too bad... XEP-0313 is still experimental and XEP-0136 is deprecated already. No, it's a good thing. While MAM isn't quite Draft yet, the council was confident it will be very soon, and is clearly what we want new implementations to be doing. Deprecated didn't mean that people must not implement, and certainly not that they must remove existing code - it means that we don't think a new client or server should go that route today. 16.11.2017, 00:25, "Sam Whited" : Hi all, This email is to let you know that XEP-0136: Message Archiving [1] has been moved to a stats of Deprecated per a vote of the Council. The new version will be published and live on the website soon. —Sam [1]: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0136.html ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___ ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___ ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
Re: [Standards] XEP-0136: Message Archiving moved to Deprecated
Too bad...XEP-0313 is still experimental and XEP-0136 is deprecated already.16.11.2017, 00:25, "Sam Whited" :Hi all,This email is to let you know that XEP-0136: Message Archiving [1] hasbeen moved to a stats of Deprecated per a vote of the Council. The newversion will be published and live on the website soon.—Sam[1]: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0136.html___Standards mailing listInfo: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standardsUnsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org___ ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___
[Standards] XEP-0136: Message Archiving moved to Deprecated
Hi all, This email is to let you know that XEP-0136: Message Archiving [1] has been moved to a stats of Deprecated per a vote of the Council. The new version will be published and live on the website soon. —Sam [1]: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0136.html ___ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org ___