Re: [OT] Documenting projects

2003-04-06 Thread Dan Allen

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> As far as requirements, you should pick up a Rational Unified Process book and look 
> at designing use-cases with Word.
...or KWord or swriter (OpenOffice/StarOffice)

> Design, you can use visio
ArgoUML or Dia

Sorry, just had to plug for the open source world, GO OPEN SOURCE!
viva la code!

Dan

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Re: [OT] Documenting projects

2003-04-05 Thread Paul Thomas
On 04/04/2003 13:19 Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
   Sorry, I wasn't explicit... I was thinking about other kind of 
documentation, like requirements capture with use cases, analysis and 
design with UML, etc

There's an open source diagramming program called dia which does UML and 
might be worth looking at - just don't expect to find a free RR clone! 
It's file format is actually a gzipped XML file so you could store the 
un-compressed version in cvs.

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Re: [OT] Documenting projects

2003-04-05 Thread Jason Lea
Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
   Jason,

   Thanks for your response. I'am already using Poseidon for the UML 
part, and after searching and reading a while I think I'll adopt 
DocBook. What software do you use to author DocBook documents? A plain 
XML editor with DTD validation or do you use anything else?
Ahh yes, I forgot that bit

XMLmind XML Editor (XXE) (http://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/)

The Standard Edition is free and managed to do everything I needed 
(there is a Pro version with added features).  XXE features DTD and XML 
Schema aware editing commands and a word processor-like view configured 
using W3C's cascading style sheets.  That gives it a WYSIWYG feel which 
is really quite cool.

We also created our own extensions to DocBook to support Use Cases eg 
actors, preconditions etc.  Adding a CSS file means we could see what 
they would almost look like when rendered into PDF or HTML.

Then used an XSLT to convert Use Case->DocBook, then we could use the 
DocBook->HTML/FOP/etc standard XSLTs.

It supports DocBook straight off so it is very easy to use without the 
extra stuff we did.

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Re: [OT] Documenting projects

2003-04-05 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
   Mick,

   Thanks for your response, but I cannot take that approach because of 
control version. I think there are some products that lets you control 
versioning of Word documents but they are not free/open source. About 
free tools for UML, there are a few, in case you are interested. I'm 
using Poseidon from Gentleware.

   Regards
   Jose
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As far as requirements, you should pick up a Rational Unified Process book and look at designing use-cases with Word. Design, you can use visio, or look to invest in something like Together-J. Together-j will generate use-cases, as well as class models and generate java code.

But free Not really sure.

 



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Re: [OT] Documenting projects

2003-04-05 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
   Jason,

   Thanks for your response. I'am already using Poseidon for the UML 
part, and after searching and reading a while I think I'll adopt 
DocBook. What software do you use to author DocBook documents? A plain 
XML editor with DTD validation or do you use anything else?

   Regards
   Jose
Jason Lea wrote:

Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:

   Sorry, I wasn't explicit... I was thinking about other kind of 
documentation, like requirements capture with use cases, analysis and 
design with UML, etc


We used DocBook with some extensions for creating Use Cases.  So that 
we could create PDFs, HTML etc and some XSTL to pull out reports such 
as showing which Uses Cases an Actor appears in.

Other documents were created in Open Office.

UML Design we used Poseidon for UML 
(http://www.gentleware.com/products/poseidonCE.php3)

The Community edition is free!  It is based on ArgoUML 
(http://argouml.tigris.org/).  We tried Argo at first but there were a 
few bugs which caused objects to disappear when saving/loading. 
Poseidon had fixed those problems and added some improvements.



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Re: [OT] Documenting projects

2003-04-04 Thread Jason Lea
Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
   Sorry, I wasn't explicit... I was thinking about other kind of 
documentation, like requirements capture with use cases, analysis and 
design with UML, etc
We used DocBook with some extensions for creating Use Cases.  So that we 
could create PDFs, HTML etc and some XSTL to pull out reports such as 
showing which Uses Cases an Actor appears in.

Other documents were created in Open Office.

UML Design we used Poseidon for UML 
(http://www.gentleware.com/products/poseidonCE.php3)

The Community edition is free!  It is based on ArgoUML 
(http://argouml.tigris.org/).  We tried Argo at first but there were a 
few bugs which caused objects to disappear when saving/loading. 
Poseidon had fixed those problems and added some improvements.

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RE: [OT] Documenting projects

2003-04-04 Thread Mick . Knutson
As far as requirements, you should pick up a Rational Unified Process book and look at 
designing use-cases with Word. Design, you can use visio, or look to invest in 
something like Together-J. Together-j will generate use-cases, as well as class models 
and generate java code.

But free Not really sure.

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Sorry, I wasn't explicit... I was thinking about other kind of 
documentation, like requirements capture with use cases, analysis and 
design with UML, etc

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>You always have javadocs and those can be generated automatically with ANT build 
>scripts.
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>Subject: [OT] Documenting projects
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>Hi there,
>
>I want to document a project using something free, with text format 
>so I can include it in cvs (I know I can include binaries, but you lose 
>all the information about changes), and I would like to be able to 
>integrate it with maven. The options so far are html (or xhtml), docbook 
>(full or simple) or xdoc (the format used in jakarta projects).
>
>Any ideas, advices?
>
>Regards
>Jose
>
>ps: of course, I'm using Struts for the web layer
>
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Re: [OT] Documenting projects

2003-04-04 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
   Sorry, I wasn't explicit... I was thinking about other kind of 
documentation, like requirements capture with use cases, analysis and 
design with UML, etc

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You always have javadocs and those can be generated automatically with ANT build scripts.

-Original Message-
From: Jose Gonzalez Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:46 PM
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Subject: [OT] Documenting projects


   Hi there,

   I want to document a project using something free, with text format 
so I can include it in cvs (I know I can include binaries, but you lose 
all the information about changes), and I would like to be able to 
integrate it with maven. The options so far are html (or xhtml), docbook 
(full or simple) or xdoc (the format used in jakarta projects).

   Any ideas, advices?

   Regards
   Jose
   ps: of course, I'm using Struts for the web layer

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RE: [OT] Documenting projects

2003-04-04 Thread Mick . Knutson
You always have javadocs and those can be generated automatically with ANT build 
scripts.

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Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:46 PM
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Subject: [OT] Documenting projects



Hi there,

I want to document a project using something free, with text format 
so I can include it in cvs (I know I can include binaries, but you lose 
all the information about changes), and I would like to be able to 
integrate it with maven. The options so far are html (or xhtml), docbook 
(full or simple) or xdoc (the format used in jakarta projects).

Any ideas, advices?

Regards
Jose

ps: of course, I'm using Struts for the web layer


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[OT] Documenting projects

2003-04-04 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
   Hi there,

   I want to document a project using something free, with text format 
so I can include it in cvs (I know I can include binaries, but you lose 
all the information about changes), and I would like to be able to 
integrate it with maven. The options so far are html (or xhtml), docbook 
(full or simple) or xdoc (the format used in jakarta projects).

   Any ideas, advices?

   Regards
   Jose
   ps: of course, I'm using Struts for the web layer

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