Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > Greg Smith wrote: >> Hi Bernie, >> >> I read the lists in digest except for Sur which I get individually >> because I was the first admin for that the list (can't seem to turn that >> off :-( >> >> I focus 100% on delivering the best experience possible for users of the >> 400K XOs shipped so far (50K more shipping every month). So I scan or >> read all the lists on lists.laptop.org and I try to stay up to date with >> wiki.laptop.org. >> > > Hello Greg, > > Sugar is a project with a very large scope. Many of the core > contributors believes that the resources OLPC is able to devote to it > are not going to be sufficient to fullfill it's long term goals or even > to get near enough to them. > > We need to make Sugar available and used also outside OLPC to attract > more contributors. That's the very reason of the existence of SugarLabs. > On the long term that's going to be very useful to those 400K XOs in the > field. > > That requires to establish Sugar as an independent FOSS project and > building a community around it. And it's important for the identity of > the project that the mailing lists and other services are available from > its domain. > > After 8.2 is out and we are all a little less pressed, I'd like to > propose that: > > 1 We move [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] OLPC specific issues > related to Sugar can be discussed on [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2 We move Fructose git repositories on sugarlabs.org. > > They would be a couple of good steps towards the long-term goal and they > would not hinder in any way the immediate OLPC goals. > > Cheers, > Marco Right, the independent sugar FOSS project is the reason for all this moving. As marco said, we are quite sure that in the end this will help sugar to mature which will directly make the experience on the XO much better. Best, Simon ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] sugar-presence-service 0.82.0 released
A new release of Presence Service is available at: https://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar-presence-service/sugar-presence-service-0.82.0.tar.bz2 The "Woo I'm stable!" release. No code change since 0.81.4, the point of this release is to sync version number with Sucrose 0.82.0. Regards, G. ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] sugar-presence-service branched for sucrose-0.82
sugar-presence-service has been branched for 0.82. The main goal for this cycle is the Gadget [1] integration which should hopefully increase the scalability of server-oriented collaboration. G. [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Gadget ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Our final release for Sugar 0.82, and handling translations
Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: >> >>> Hello Developers, >>> >>> I just finished sending out mails to most of our language team leads, >>> reminding them to commit their translations. I would recommend that >>> you wait a bit till tomorrow (evening??) till the final translations >>> are in, before packaging them (apologies about this, I'll remember to >>> send in the reminders earlier during the next release cycle). >>> >>> >> Sure, let's start to do releases after 18 UTC. >> > > Awesome. Thanks :-) > > >>> I expect some PO files to be malformated - if you face any trouble >>> (msgfmt choking), you can mail me, or ping me on IRC (my username is >>> unmadindu, and I'm on #sugar on FreeNode most of the time). >>> >>> >> Buildbot is useful: >> >> make[2]: Entering directory >> `/home/buildbot/slave/quick/build/source/sugar-toolkit/po' >> file=`echo mr | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ >> && rm -f $file && /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file mr.po >> file=`echo rw | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ >> && rm -f $file && /usr/bin/msgfmt -o $file rw.po >> rw.po:116: missing `msgstr[]' section >> rw.po:142: missing `msgstr[]' section >> /usr/bin/msgfmt: found 2 fatal errors >> make[2]: *** [rw.gmo] Error 1 >> make[2]: Leaving directory >> `/home/buildbot/slave/quick/build/source/sugar-toolkit/po' >> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >> make[1]: Leaving directory >> `/home/buildbot/slave/quick/build/source/sugar-toolkit' >> >> > > > Fixed that. What is the URL where I can monitor the buildbot output http://buildbot.sugarlabs.org/waterfall Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Our final release for Sugar 0.82, and handling translations
Another one in Sugar: ../../po/el.po:273: `msgid' and `msgstr' entries do not both end with '\n' ../../po/el.po:285: `msgid' and `msgstr' entries do not both end with '\n' Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Reviews report
= Approved requests = ohm and sugar should cooperate to unfreeze dcon http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7357 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] How do I connect to a Jabber server ?
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 19:30, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Morgan wrote: >>> My _wish_ is simple: I want a chance to contact (for Chat, or for >>> collaboration) another XO at a different location. Basically, for >>> me to initiate that, that other XO's icon needs to be shown in my >>> Neighborhood view. >> >> Therefore you (and the people you want to contact) need to be on a >> community jabber server > > You are talking about how to *use* a jabber server once one is > connected. I do not *have* a connected jabber server. It should *just work*. However there are many potential problems. You might be able to help us detect problems we haven't triggered ourselves, and by providing logs you can help us diagnose and therefore fix the problem, if it is something we can fix. Unfortunately there are many situations we can't fix, like a jabber server not running - it's up to the admin of that server to rectify that situation, and we are willing to provide assistance with that. >> To see people from remote locations, you need to be on the same Jabber >> server as they are. >> >> That requires: >> * Internet access - via an Access Point, or over the mesh via a school >> server, or over the mesh via a Mesh Portal Point XO which in turn has >> access, or even via some dialup technology like bluetooth+GPRS. >> * Network Manager to get an IP address >> * A jabber server to be configured >> * That server to be working >> * Other people to be on the server. > > What I an aware of is: > > (1) Months ago, I would boot my XO, and other XO icons would show > up in my neighborhood view (from whatever jabber server I had > specified via sugar-control-panel). Then "remote users" > stopped showing up (no matter which server I had specified). > > (2) I do not myself know enough about 'telepathy', etc., to be > able to figure out what is going wrong. That is why I am > asking for assistance. presenceservice.log and the output of olpc-netstatus should tell us what was happening. You don't *need* to know much about the details, but we will explain for all who are interested. > [I'm a G1G1 user, and do not have a Mesh Portal Point to use, nor a > school server. Except for me not connecting to a jabber server, the > internet works well for me.] I listed possible use cases to illustrate how the system operates... >> Connecting to an AP disables the mesh, so I don't see the value of >> what you want. Turning off the mesh while you are connected to a mesh >> channel would simply (in the proposal) turn the wireless radio off >> completely, resulting in neither gabble nor salut able to operate. > > Then I believe the language being used is imprecise. To me, > "turning off the mesh" means turning off the __mesh__. If what is > actually being turned off is the __radio__, then call it "turning > off the wireless radio". > > What I keep butting my head against is not being able to *control* > what is going on. In my mind a 'mesh' is one interface, and an 'AP' > is another interface. I would like to "turn off the mesh" when > there are no local XOs, and no school server. You are saying that > the 'AP' would get turned off as well. Not something I prefer. > > >> Mikus, tickets and logs, logs and tickets. > > The last time I focused on connectivity was Apr/May. What I > concluded then was that my tickets got closed depending on the > effect they had on the code -- *not* on whether I as a user could > now experience consistent system behavior. We do now have QA people who will try the situation out and see whether the fault was fixed, and a process that involves their signoff before bugs are closed. > I'm willing to file a ticket when I see something happening -- such > as an error when accessing a Jabber server (though one such ticket > was closed as 'invalid' - because that particular server had not > given the expected answer). But it is difficult to decide what to > ticket/log when I do not see something happening -- for instance, > what if a connection to a Jabber server were never attempted by my XO? We appreciate the tickets, even they do on occasion get closed as Won't Fix, Works For Me, Invalid... That's no indication of your ticket-filing skills. We fix the things we can fix, and if it's something out of our control we need to remove it from our work queues. If there's some other way to resolve the situation perhaps we can do better about notifying others if their servers are down, and so on. The log files should tell us a lot about a given situation. presenceservice.log tells us when gabble and salut were running, what disconnected or failed to connect, what buddies were seen and so on. For any presence-related failure, including not seeing any buddies on your screen, presenceservice.log gives us an ability to diagnose the failure. It might not give us enough information, and if there is ultimately not enough information for us to know what failed we have no choic
Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Changes for sugar 0.81.8-2.20080806git0fc57309f3.olpc3 from 0.81.8-1.fc9 > --- > + 7495 open cp software-updater on first boot after an update I don't want this! I keep shouting about it and no one seems to be listening! Home absolutely needs to be home base, especially after an update. I'm fine with tossing up a non-modal alert at boot which prompts the user to update right away, with a button which reveals the software update control panel module, but I'm NOT OK with anything which, unbeknownst to the user, flits them away to some other part of the system without his/her consent. - Eben ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258
On 8/6/08, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- Changes for sugar 0.81.8-2.20080806git0fc57309f3.olpc3 from > 0.81.8-1.fc9 --- > > + 7495 open cp software-updater on first boot after an update > > I don't want this! I keep shouting about it and no one seems to be > listening! Home absolutely needs to be home base, especially after an > update. I'm fine with tossing up a non-modal alert at boot which > prompts the user to update right away, with a button which reveals the > software update control panel module, but I'm NOT OK with anything > which, unbeknownst to the user, flits them away to some other part of > the system without his/her consent. +1 Initially I was all for such first-boot features (especially with regard to G1G1 and the help-activity). But after thinking about Eben's arguments in both cases I agree that user should definitely see the home-view as the first thing when they boot the machine. Especially the Sugar-Control-Panel and its overlay above the home-view (which IIRC isn't used anywhere else in Sugar except for the Journal object chooser instead of the traditional file-choose dialogue) could be quite confusing. Cheers, Christoph - Eben > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, olpcnews url: www.olpcnews.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Another sugar rant (was: x2o physics problem solving game)
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Neil Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 06 August 2008 7:08:33 am Alex Levenson wrote: > Searching for X2o using the wiki search doesn't find it. It's Called X2o! > it's url is http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X2o for heaven's sake! Somebody either > fix the search or just change the search box to go to google. Are you sure? When I search for 'X2o' (case insensitive) I am taken directly to the page you identified, bypassing any search results page altogether. > With regards to using activities on the XO I've tried to be accepting of the > sugar interface style, but this activity crystallizes things for me. I'm now > prepared to move to the sugar-sucks camp. I've used many and written a few I think nearly all of us are in the sugar-sucks-but-is-still-changing-lives-and-we're-gonna-do-everything-in-our-power-to-make-it-rock camp. We like it when people move from the sugar-sucks camp into ours! ;) > I'd like to be clear that I don't think there is anything done poorly in the > X2o activity itself. I think it all comes from having the sugar interface. > The more I encounter sugar interfaced programs, the more I think Activities > would be better off with just about anything else. Specific examples would be extremely beneficial here. Is it the fullscreen nature of the window? The toolbars? (Note, there's another interesting design proposed for these: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Toolbars) The GTK theme? There's lots of stuff missing still, but feedback on the particulars of what's already there would be great. > I gave myself a long time to acclimatise, much longer than I would have for > anything else, because the XO is really quite important. I really believe in > the goals of the OLPC project, but I cant use the XO effectively! My daughter > can't use the XO effectively! Perhaps you mean "efficiently"? (Most of us would agree with you, there.) However, there are certainly thousands of kids using them effectively despite the inefficiencies and bugs; the work we see coming back from deployments proves this, and keeps all of us going with the hope of making it far better in the future -- perhaps even effective and efficient enough for us "spoiled" folk. =) > At what point does a do-over make more sense? I was prepared to take the > resource usage and the slow bits and the joke that is the journal because > they were all things that future work would have addressed. The cumbersome > user interface is a killer though because it's designed to be like that. Again, without examples a rant is nothing but hot air. What parts are so fundamentally broken that not even future software updates could fix them? The Journal is a pretty good example of a fundamental part of the system that's mostly non-functional at present, but we have some good designs for it (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Journal) and I expect that, at some point, hopefully soon, we'll also have the resources to implement them. - Eben ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] video bleeds through somewhat between sessions
On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 01:43 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Quoting Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > There is probably a bug in the mplayer wrapper (are you using an > > mplayer 'activity' wrapper?) in that it's not getting rid of the > > overlay setup when it loses focus or is minimized. > > This is not a bug, at least in the case of losing focus. Color-keyed video > acceleration is designed specifically for the case of playing video in a > background window that is partially obscured by a window in front of it. This > works correctly so long as the chosen key color isn't present in the > foreground > window, and so the favored key color is hot pink because it is so rarely used. > > The problem here appears to be that mplayer has chosen a key color that is a > shade of gray. That's a poor choice, and arguably a bug. > > However, Mikus has a good point here. Insofar as XVideo's color keying is > designed to overlap windows correctly with live video, it is unnecessary in > our > single-window UI. The GPU is doing a great deal of unnecessary work to blit a > video that we already know to be completely occluded. Minimizing Activity > windows might be a good way to start fixing this. We should also consider > what > happens when two running Activities both want to use XVideo. Can we multiplex > access to XVideo, knowing that only one Activity is ever actually visible at a > time? There is no blitting going on The video unit takes the yuv data, scales it, and puts it where you tell it to. The color key determines if it is visible. - Jim -- Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One Laptop Per Child ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Another sugar rant
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eben Eliason wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Neil Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Wednesday 06 August 2008 7:08:33 am Alex Levenson wrote: >>> Searching for X2o using the wiki search doesn't find it. It's Called >>> X2o! >>> it's url is http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X2o for heaven's sake! Somebody >>> either >>> fix the search or just change the search box to go to google. >>> >> >> Are you sure? When I search for 'X2o' (case insensitive) I am taken >> directly to the page you identified, bypassing any search results page >> altogether. >> > > I have to agree with Neil. Entering X2o in the Wiki search box on the left > hand side of wiki.laptop.org > leads to no matches whatsoever. > Searching laptop.org via Google gives the correct page as first hit. Sorry, my fault. I failed to realize that the enter key was bound to the "Go" button instead of the "Search" button. You're right, I get no results either. It's truly strange that it doesn't recognize the page title direct match. In fact, I can even click on the 'X2o' in the text where it says "You searched for X2o" and get linked to the correct page! It sounds like a wiki bug, to me...has anyone filed one yet? If not, I guess it should be done. - Eben > Ton van Overbeek > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Another sugar rant
Hi, I believe this guy is the culprit: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgDBminWordLen Default minimum word length = 4. Cheers, Reinier (But still wikipedia's search function doesn't beat google by far) Eben Eliason wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Eben Eliason wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Neil Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Wednesday 06 August 2008 7:08:33 am Alex Levenson wrote: Searching for X2o using the wiki search doesn't find it. It's Called X2o! it's url is http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X2o for heaven's sake! Somebody either fix the search or just change the search box to go to google. >>> Are you sure? When I search for 'X2o' (case insensitive) I am taken >>> directly to the page you identified, bypassing any search results page >>> altogether. >>> >>> >> I have to agree with Neil. Entering X2o in the Wiki search box on the left >> hand side of wiki.laptop.org >> leads to no matches whatsoever. >> Searching laptop.org via Google gives the correct page as first hit. >> > > Sorry, my fault. I failed to realize that the enter key was bound to > the "Go" button instead of the "Search" button. You're right, I get > no results either. It's truly strange that it doesn't recognize the > page title direct match. In fact, I can even click on the 'X2o' in > the text where it says "You searched for X2o" and get linked to the > correct page! > > It sounds like a wiki bug, to me...has anyone filed one yet? If not, > I guess it should be done. > > - Eben > >> Ton van Overbeek >> >> -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258
On 6 Aug 2008, at 14:47, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Build Announcer v2 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> --- Changes for sugar 0.81.8-2.20080806git0fc57309f3.olpc3 from >> 0.81.8-1.fc9 --- >> + 7495 open cp software-updater on first boot after an update > > I don't want this! I keep shouting about it and no one seems to be > listening! Home absolutely needs to be home base, especially after an > update. I'm fine with tossing up a non-modal alert at boot which > prompts the user to update right away, with a button which reveals the > software update control panel module, but I'm NOT OK with anything > which, unbeknownst to the user, flits them away to some other part of > the system without his/her consent. +1 Just installed 2258 here, my first impression was that home page had hung/locked-up, noticed no Journal, tried to click an activity to launch something and then was dragged away into the control panel auto update. One of those non-modal alerts (horizontal black strip that pops out from below the toolbar) would be more friendly. The XOs been downloading updates for 10+min now. BTW: I do really like the standard updater (progress bar still needs some tweaking so it keep a grey outline and isn't all white fill), just would be nice to alow the user to trigger it*** ***I also felt the the behaviour where software update starts as soon as you click on the control panel icon was a little off. Would be more user friendly to display the updater interface with a button to clearly initiate the update process. Currently, if a kid goes poking about the control panel UI (a good thing), they are going to be triggering unintended update attempts for sure – on all kinds of slow network topologies... --G ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258 (Eben Eliason)
Hi All, +1 on not reaching out over the network or doing anything without user input. I'm also nervous about the software update icon in the control panel going out over the network and doing something immediately after you click and before you do anything else with the Update interface. Is there any precedent or guidelines on what happens first after you choose a Sugar Control Panel option? Has anyone tested the SW updater control panel over low-BW or offline? I'd rather see it land on a nice GUI that explains what will happen and gives you the option to click and check for the latest activities. Thanks, Greg S > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:47:42 -0400 > From: "Eben Eliason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258 > Cc: Sugar Mailing List , [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> --- Changes for sugar 0.81.8-2.20080806git0fc57309f3.olpc3 from 0.81.8-1.fc9 >> --- >> + 7495 open cp software-updater on first boot after an update > > I don't want this! I keep shouting about it and no one seems to be > listening! Home absolutely needs to be home base, especially after an > update. I'm fine with tossing up a non-modal alert at boot which > prompts the user to update right away, with a button which reveals the > software update control panel module, but I'm NOT OK with anything > which, unbeknownst to the user, flits them away to some other part of > the system without his/her consent. > > - Eben > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:57:31 +0200 > From: "Christoph Derndorfer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258 > To: "Eben Eliason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Sugar Mailing List , [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On 8/6/08, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> --- Changes for sugar 0.81.8-2.20080806git0fc57309f3.olpc3 from >> 0.81.8-1.fc9 --- >>> + 7495 open cp software-updater on first boot after an update >> I don't want this! I keep shouting about it and no one seems to be >> listening! Home absolutely needs to be home base, especially after an >> update. I'm fine with tossing up a non-modal alert at boot which >> prompts the user to update right away, with a button which reveals the >> software update control panel module, but I'm NOT OK with anything >> which, unbeknownst to the user, flits them away to some other part of >> the system without his/her consent. > > > +1 > > Initially I was all for such first-boot features (especially with regard to > G1G1 and the help-activity). But after thinking about Eben's arguments in > both cases I agree that user should definitely see the home-view as the > first thing when they boot the machine. Especially the Sugar-Control-Panel > and its overlay above the home-view (which IIRC isn't used anywhere else in > Sugar except for the Journal object chooser instead of the traditional > file-choose dialogue) could be quite confusing. > > Cheers, > Christoph > > > - Eben >> ___ >> Sugar mailing list >> Sugar@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar >> > > > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258 (Eben Eliason)
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > +1 on not reaching out over the network or doing anything without user > input. > > I'm also nervous about the software update icon in the control panel > going out over the network and doing something immediately after you > click and before you do anything else with the Update interface. Is > there any precedent or guidelines on what happens first after you choose > a Sugar Control Panel option? These are usually implemented in 1 of 2 ways. It may be implemented as a menu item titled "Check for updates" or similar, which makes the desire to actually initiate the action implicit in selecting it. It can also be implemented as a control panel module, in which case there's usually a "Check now" button, in addition to information such as the time/date of the last successful update, and options to set up automatic update checks. In our case, we do offer a "Cancel" button, which would prevent this update scenario from taking over the system/bandwidth completely. However, a "Check now" button would also work just fine. - Eben > Has anyone tested the SW updater control panel over low-BW or offline? > > I'd rather see it land on a nice GUI that explains what will happen and > gives you the option to click and check for the latest activities. > > Thanks, > > Greg S > >> >> -- >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:47:42 -0400 >> From: "Eben Eliason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258 >> Cc: Sugar Mailing List , [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Message-ID: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> --- Changes for sugar 0.81.8-2.20080806git0fc57309f3.olpc3 from >>> 0.81.8-1.fc9 --- >>> + 7495 open cp software-updater on first boot after an update >> >> I don't want this! I keep shouting about it and no one seems to be >> listening! Home absolutely needs to be home base, especially after an >> update. I'm fine with tossing up a non-modal alert at boot which >> prompts the user to update right away, with a button which reveals the >> software update control panel module, but I'm NOT OK with anything >> which, unbeknownst to the user, flits them away to some other part of >> the system without his/her consent. >> >> - Eben >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:57:31 +0200 >> From: "Christoph Derndorfer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258 >> To: "Eben Eliason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Cc: Sugar Mailing List , [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Message-ID: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> On 8/6/08, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: --- Changes for sugar 0.81.8-2.20080806git0fc57309f3.olpc3 from >>> 0.81.8-1.fc9 --- + 7495 open cp software-updater on first boot after an update >>> I don't want this! I keep shouting about it and no one seems to be >>> listening! Home absolutely needs to be home base, especially after an >>> update. I'm fine with tossing up a non-modal alert at boot which >>> prompts the user to update right away, with a button which reveals the >>> software update control panel module, but I'm NOT OK with anything >>> which, unbeknownst to the user, flits them away to some other part of >>> the system without his/her consent. >> >> >> +1 >> >> Initially I was all for such first-boot features (especially with regard to >> G1G1 and the help-activity). But after thinking about Eben's arguments in >> both cases I agree that user should definitely see the home-view as the >> first thing when they boot the machine. Especially the Sugar-Control-Panel >> and its overlay above the home-view (which IIRC isn't used anywhere else in >> Sugar except for the Journal object chooser instead of the traditional >> file-choose dialogue) could be quite confusing. >> >> Cheers, >> Christoph >> >> >> - Eben >>> ___ >>> Sugar mailing list >>> Sugar@lists.laptop.org >>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar >>> >> >> >> > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [PATCH] 5657: don't install activities in Rainbow's loophole (and draft 2 of bigger patch for 9.1)
attachments, in order:
(1) 0...the proposed patch to sugar
(2) suga..9.1 sugar part of a draft patch for 9.1, only read it if you're
interested, scarcely tested.
(3) 0...s-l proposed patch for sugar-toolkit
(4) tool...9.1 the sugar-toolkit part of the draft 9.1 patch
(5) 0...fixes some minor pylint cleanup to sugar, to be applied after
patch 1 above.
So, the important parts here are (1) and (3). Patch (1) makes sugar registry
service not add bundles unless they're in ~/Activities. (The registry can
add such bundles, but the service will refuse to). Patch (3) makes
activitybundle.py refuse to install loopholed activities unless called with
securitycheck=False.
From 4db7faf72edc7eaa2aa4631a98aa29819f2e5ec8 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jameson Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:17:11 -0600
Subject: [PATCH] bug #5657 - don't add bundles to registry unless they're in ~/Activities
---
service/bundleregistry.py |7 +--
1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/service/bundleregistry.py b/service/bundleregistry.py
index e7c30a8..5d3fec8 100644
--- a/service/bundleregistry.py
+++ b/service/bundleregistry.py
@@ -174,12 +174,15 @@ class BundleRegistry(gobject.GObject):
bundle_dirs.sort(lambda d1, d2: cmp(bundles[d1], bundles[d2]))
for folder in bundle_dirs:
try:
-self.add_bundle(folder)
+self.add_bundle(folder, securitycheck=False)
except Exception, e:
logging.error('Error while processing installed activity ' \
'bundle: %s, %s, %s' % (folder, e.__class__, e))
-def add_bundle(self, bundle_path):
+def add_bundle(self, bundle_path, securitycheck=True):
+if securitycheck and not bundle_path.startswith(
+os.path.expanduser("~/Activities")):
+return False
try:
bundle = ActivityBundle(bundle_path)
except MalformedBundleException:
--
1.5.2.5
diff --git a/service/activityregistryservice.py b/service/activityregistryservice.py
index 6ba5598..7b3415a 100644
--- a/service/activityregistryservice.py
+++ b/service/activityregistryservice.py
@@ -24,6 +24,11 @@ _ACTIVITY_REGISTRY_SERVICE_NAME = 'org.laptop.ActivityRegistry'
_ACTIVITY_REGISTRY_IFACE = 'org.laptop.ActivityRegistry'
_ACTIVITY_REGISTRY_PATH = '/org/laptop/ActivityRegistry'
+def log_it(s):
+f = file("/home/chema/.sugar/default/logs/hardcoded","ab")
+f.write(s+"\n")
+f.close()
+
class ActivityRegistry(dbus.service.Object):
def __init__(self):
bus = dbus.SessionBus()
@@ -64,11 +69,8 @@ class ActivityRegistry(dbus.service.Object):
@dbus.service.method(_ACTIVITY_REGISTRY_IFACE,
in_signature='', out_signature='aa{sv}')
def GetActivities(self):
-result = []
registry = bundleregistry.get_registry()
-for bundle in registry:
-result.append(self._bundle_to_dict(bundle))
-return result
+return (bundle for bundle in registry)
@dbus.service.method(_ACTIVITY_REGISTRY_IFACE,
in_signature='s', out_signature='a{sv}')
@@ -78,7 +80,8 @@ class ActivityRegistry(dbus.service.Object):
if not bundle:
return {}
-return self._bundle_to_dict(bundle)
+log_it("service about to return "+str(bundle))
+return bundle
@dbus.service.method(_ACTIVITY_REGISTRY_IFACE,
in_signature='s', out_signature='aa{sv}')
@@ -90,18 +93,15 @@ class ActivityRegistry(dbus.service.Object):
name = bundle.get_name().lower()
bundle_id = bundle.get_bundle_id().lower()
if name.find(key) != -1 or bundle_id.find(key) != -1:
-result.append(self._bundle_to_dict(bundle))
+result.append(bundle)
return result
@dbus.service.method(_ACTIVITY_REGISTRY_IFACE,
in_signature='s', out_signature='aa{sv}')
def GetActivitiesForType(self, mime_type):
-result = []
registry = bundleregistry.get_registry()
-for bundle in registry.get_activities_for_type(mime_type):
-result.append(self._bundle_to_dict(bundle))
-return result
+return registry.get_activities_for_type(mime_type)
@dbus.service.method(_ACTIVITY_REGISTRY_IFACE,
in_signature='sib', out_signature='')
@@ -127,32 +127,14 @@ class ActivityRegistry(dbus.service.Object):
def ActivityChanged(self, activity_info):
pass
-def _bundle_to_dict(self, bundle):
-registry = bundleregistry.get_registry()
-favorite = registry.is_bundle_favorite(bundle.get_bundle_id(),
- bundle.get_activity_version())
-x, y = registry.get_bundle_position(bundle.get_bundle_id(),
-bu
[sugar] [RELEASE] Chat 45
I've released Chat-44, available at: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/chat-activity/Chat-45.tar.bz2 http://dev.laptop.org/~morgan/bundles/Chat-45.xo NEWS: 45 * Updated translations: sl, nb, el, mr, rw, ur, ne * Fixed MANIFEST to include all translations (morgs) Regards Morgan ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list
Hi Marco et al, I understand. In general, I'm impartial on this subject. I can live with the new organization if there is consensus from the key stake holders, especially my boss. I think the sugarlabs is doing great and appears very well organized. Keep it up! I want to read all the e-mails that are important for XO users and I want to skip anything not directly relevant to them. I'll archive and maintain links to the rest in case I need to look something up. Knowing my perspective, let me know if you have any suggestions on how I can optimize my efficiency with the new communication channels. "We can rebuild him, we have the technology ... better than he was before, better, stronger, faster!" http://www.technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaZ9phMCn_Lw :-) Thanks, Greg S Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > Greg Smith wrote: >> Hi Bernie, >> >> I read the lists in digest except for Sur which I get individually >> because I was the first admin for that the list (can't seem to turn >> that off :-( >> >> I focus 100% on delivering the best experience possible for users of >> the 400K XOs shipped so far (50K more shipping every month). So I scan >> or read all the lists on lists.laptop.org and I try to stay up to date >> with wiki.laptop.org. >> > > Hello Greg, > > Sugar is a project with a very large scope. Many of the core > contributors believes that the resources OLPC is able to devote to it > are not going to be sufficient to fullfill it's long term goals or even > to get near enough to them. > > We need to make Sugar available and used also outside OLPC to attract > more contributors. That's the very reason of the existence of SugarLabs. > On the long term that's going to be very useful to those 400K XOs in the > field. > > That requires to establish Sugar as an independent FOSS project and > building a community around it. And it's important for the identity of > the project that the mailing lists and other services are available from > its domain. > > After 8.2 is out and we are all a little less pressed, I'd like to > propose that: > > 1 We move [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] OLPC specific issues > related to Sugar can be discussed on [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2 We move Fructose git repositories on sugarlabs.org. > > They would be a couple of good steps towards the long-term goal and they > would not hinder in any way the immediate OLPC goals. > > Cheers, > Marco > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] [RELEASE] Chat 45
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 21:32, Morgan Collett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've released Chat-44, available at: Chat-45, actually... > http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/chat-activity/Chat-45.tar.bz2 > http://dev.laptop.org/~morgan/bundles/Chat-45.xo > > NEWS: > 45 > > * Updated translations: sl, nb, el, mr, rw, ur, ne > * Fixed MANIFEST to include all translations (morgs) > > Regards > Morgan > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [Fwd: Units and resolution independence for gtk+]
7;s safe to commit something like this to stable gtk 2.x. PATCH There's a patch against trunk (revision 21025 from around 1pm eastern today) here http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/gtk-resolution-indepence-r21025-20080806-1315EDT.patch Notes on the patch - It's huge! 151 files changed, 4498 insertions(+), 1777 deletions(-) It weighs 518K. However, most changes are of the form [4] - range->min_slider_size = 1; + range->min_slider_size = GDK_UNIT_ONE_TWELFTH_EM (1); + usage of GDK_UNIT_TO_PIXEL to resolve to pixels + conversion to use gdk_param_spec_unit. E.g. most of the patch is trivial. - Part of of the patch deals with storing units in private data. For GtkTable and GtkBox this was really unpleasant; had to mirror all the childs etc. as private structures. Ugh. But we need something like this work anyway as part of the gtk3 plan for sealing off access to private data. - The gtkrc parser integration is lame; it currently uses ! as a prefix to mean em. It should accept e.g. "0.8em" instead of "!0.8". Shouldn't be too hard, I just didn't like hacking the rc parser right now. Here's some version of Gilouche's gtkrc ported http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/Gilouche-RI-gtkrc but note that the clearlooks theme engine got a bug with drawing radio buttons. The Raleigh engine is fine. - I have a small patch to gtk-doc to print out e.g. Default value: 0.2 em instead of Default value: 2474784784 - GdkScreen grew a "unit-changed" signal - docs - need to add docs for all new symbols - need a porting guide DEMO Here's a screencast showing the feature - http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/gtk-resolution-indepence.ogg Here are some screenshots - http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/file-chooser-em5.png - http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/file-chooser-em10.png - http://people.freedesktop.org/~david/file-chooser-em20.png PROPOSAL My proposal is to merge something like this for gtk 2.x in the near future and make it mandatory in gtk 3.0. Flames, praises, thoughts? Thanks, David [1] : FWIW, I'm firmly in the "gtk 3.0 without compelling features is suicide" camp. But this is not the thread to discuss politics. Thanks. [2] : GDK_UNIT_TO_PIXEL probably needs to take a GdkScreen (and maybe even a position given multiple monitors) as well. [3] : Using gdk_unit_enable_resolution_independence() before gtk_init(). In fact apps probably only want this if they've ported to using RI themselves too. [4] : Interesting factoid: Pixel sizes are hardcoded some 400-500 places in the gtk+ source tree. ___ gtk-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list --- End Message --- ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Terminal 15
Hello, I have released Terminal 15, available at http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/terminal-activity/Terminal-15.tar.bz2 http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/bundles/terminal/Terminal-15.xo NEWS 15 * New and updated translations Thanks, Sayamindu -- Sayamindu Dasgupta [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings] ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Read 49
Hello, I have released Read version 49, which can be downloaded from http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/read-activity/Read-49.tar.bz2 http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/bundles/read/Read-49.xo NEWS 49 * New and updated translations Thanks, Sayamindu -- Sayamindu Dasgupta [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings] ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
Hi there, Please let me know if I should direct the questions to someone else since I haven't received any response. (see below) Cheers, Grisel -- Forwarded message -- From: grisel carreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:53 PM Subject: Question about write from Niue -OLPC training To: sugar@lists.laptop.org Hi there, I am doing some volunteer work for the OLPC in Niue island. One basic activity we set up on the teacher training was to get pictures from Google images, save them to the journal and upload them into Write by using the Image tab, insert facility but it didnt work. We tried various ways: - copy the image and paste it in the 'write' document - upload to clipboard image and insert it into write - saving the image from goolge with a .jpg extension - although it will save it as a picture in the journal it will still not insert it in write -well, it will insert it but it can not be viewed. - combination of the above. Could you please send us details of how to deal with this basic activity of having people inserting images into 'write' which are not coming from pictures being taken from the OLPC. It will be great if you can get us an answer by tomorrow which is our last day of training. Thanks heaps, Grisel ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
Hi Gary, The versions I am using are: - Sugar v.1.703 - WikiBrowse v.9, and - Write v.55. Thanks Grisel On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Grisel, > > On 6 Aug 2008, at 23:42, grisel carreira wrote: > > Hi there, >> Please let me know if I should direct the questions to someone else since >> I >> haven't received any response. (see below) >> Cheers, >> Grisel >> > > Sorry, this probably doesn't help... I'm running a very new development > build (joyride-2258) and it seems to be running as hoped. > > Using Browse-94, visiting Google images, right clicking and selecting copy > on several images into the clipboard, then starting a new Write-56 activity > and dragging in the images with the mouse one by one (see attached screen > shot for the not so masterpiece result). > > Can you say what version of the Sugar operating system you are using? Also > Browse version and Write version would be good. > > > > > Hi there, >> I am doing some volunteer work for the OLPC in Niue island. >> One basic activity we set up on the teacher training was to get pictures >> from Google images, save them to the journal and upload them into Write by >> using the Image tab, insert facility but it didnt work. We tried various >> ways: >> - copy the image and paste it in the 'write' document >> - upload to clipboard image and insert it into write >> - saving the image from goolge with a .jpg extension - although it will >> save >> it as a picture in the journal it will still not insert it in write -well, >> it will insert it but it can not be viewed. >> - combination of the above. >> Could you please send us details of how to deal with this basic activity >> of >> having people inserting images into 'write' which are not coming from >> pictures being taken from the OLPC. >> It will be great if you can get us an answer by tomorrow which is our last >> day of training. >> Thanks heaps, >> Grisel >> > > --Gary > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
HI Grisel, Think that write might not allow the image to be imported if it is too big. Can you tell me how large the images are? What are their dimensions in pixels? Thanks! Martin On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 08:42 +1000, grisel carreira wrote: > Hi there, > Please let me know if I should direct the questions to someone else > since I haven't received any response. (see below) > Cheers, > Grisel > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: grisel carreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:53 PM > Subject: Question about write from Niue -OLPC training > To: sugar@lists.laptop.org > > > Hi there, > I am doing some volunteer work for the OLPC in Niue island. > One basic activity we set up on the teacher training was to get > pictures from Google images, save them to the journal and upload them > into Write by using the Image tab, insert facility but it didnt work. > We tried various ways: > - copy the image and paste it in the 'write' document > - upload to clipboard image and insert it into write > - saving the image from goolge with a .jpg extension - although it > will save it as a picture in the journal it will still not insert it > in write -well, it will insert it but it can not be viewed. > - combination of the above. > Could you please send us details of how to deal with this basic > activity of having people inserting images into 'write' which are not > coming from pictures being taken from the OLPC. > It will be great if you can get us an answer by tomorrow which is our > last day of training. > Thanks heaps, > Grisel > > > > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
Martin Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Think that write might not allow the image to be imported if > it is too big. Can you tell me how large the images are? What are their > dimensions in pixels? We've had had the same issue in Haïti, with both 656 and 703 builds, and with images as taken with the Record activity (I don't know ths size and dimensions.) Is this fixed in newer (stable) builds? -- Bastien ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 09:45 +1000, grisel carreira wrote: > Hi Gary, > > The versions I am using are: > - Sugar v.1.703 > - WikiBrowse v.9, and > - Write v.55. > > Thanks > Grisel > Hi Grisel, There is a good chance this is fixed in the current joyride 8.20 builds. Clearly we need to get these out to you. A work around until then would be to reduce the size of the images or to only select images that are 640x480 or smaller. I'm almost certain these will work as this is the size of images made with the camera. Cheers Martin > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Hi Grisel, > > > On 6 Aug 2008, at 23:42, grisel carreira wrote: > > Hi there, > Please let me know if I should direct the questions to > someone else since I > haven't received any response. (see below) > Cheers, > Grisel > > > Sorry, this probably doesn't help... I'm running a very new > development build (joyride-2258) and it seems to be running as > hoped. > > Using Browse-94, visiting Google images, right clicking and > selecting copy on several images into the clipboard, then > starting a new Write-56 activity and dragging in the images > with the mouse one by one (see attached screen shot for the > not so masterpiece result). > > Can you say what version of the Sugar operating system you are > using? Also Browse version and Write version would be good. > > > > > Hi there, > I am doing some volunteer work for the OLPC in Niue > island. > One basic activity we set up on the teacher training > was to get pictures > from Google images, save them to the journal and > upload them into Write by > using the Image tab, insert facility but it didnt > work. We tried various > ways: > - copy the image and paste it in the 'write' document > - upload to clipboard image and insert it into write > - saving the image from goolge with a .jpg extension - > although it will save > it as a picture in the journal it will still not > insert it in write -well, > it will insert it but it can not be viewed. > - combination of the above. > Could you please send us details of how to deal with > this basic activity of > having people inserting images into 'write' which are > not coming from > pictures being taken from the OLPC. > It will be great if you can get us an answer by > tomorrow which is our last > day of training. > Thanks heaps, > Grisel > > --Gary > > > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Physics games on XO, Info wanted
ILXO is sponsoring a game jam this weekend. I'm going to talk about Physics games on the XO. Here's what I'm familiar with: Asteroids (and what I've done to it) X2o Space Tag Physics-0.2 Bounce (hey, it bounces and has gravity) Related stuff: Upcoming Jam in Cambridge Wiki discussions of various 2D physics engines Is there anything I'm missing? Is anyone hiding a project in their garage? Thanks, Bob ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] etoys-3.0.2076 / etoys-activity-87
Hello, This is new release of etoys. http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys/etoys-3.0.2076.tar.gz http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/etoys-activity/etoys-activity-87.tar.gz NEWS * Updated translations: ne, fr, ur, de, el * Pango is off by default. * Keep the screen depth at 16 bit upon the transition of virtual display and non-virtual. * Some fixes for the pango rendering binding. * Fixes a bug in 'save Morph on file'. * TRAC #7779: lastKeystroke malfunction in player moved to different project. * Use translated name to find buddies flap, do not translate holder morph name Cheers, - Takashi ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] suspend on 'idle'
First of all. I want to mention that when I first install a Joyride build, the initial state of the 'inhibit' flags (i.e., filenames) in /etc and /etc/ohm is "not present" -- that allows the XO to 'suspend'. Yet on the 'Power' sub-panel within the olpc 'Control Panel', the 'Automatic power management' box is __NOT__ checked. I thought that box would control 'suspend' -- and leaving it unchecked would mean "I don't want my XO to suspend". Seems like an incompatibility somewhere. More to the point, I perform a number of actions as part of "installing" a new build. Lately, if I forget to first set 'inhibit-idle-suspend', the XO is __suspending__ on me while performing downloads (via yum) of modules to augment what the build contained. [I use ethernet, and 'suspend' currently kills it - so I have to reboot to again have an ethernet connection.] I *really* would like 'idle' to mean "processor is idle" -- not just "keyboard is idle" (of course my keyboard is idle -- I'm waiting for the still-ongoing downloads to finish before I type the next command). mikus ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] suspend on 'idle'
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More to the point, I perform a number of actions as part of > "installing" a new build. Lately, if I forget to first set > 'inhibit-idle-suspend', the XO is __suspending__ on me while > performing downloads (via yum) of modules to augment what the build > contained. [I use ethernet, and 'suspend' currently kills it - so I You may find http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6432 useful. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Calculate 21
Hi, I have release Calculate 21, available at: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/calculate-activity/Calculate-21.tar.bz2 http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/Calculate-21.xo NEWS entries: * Updated translations Regards, -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] [PATCH] 5657: don't install activities in Rainbow's loophole
> Patch (1) makes sugar registry > service not add bundles unless they're in ~/Activities. I don't object to such a patch for 2008. But I expect that sooner or later there will be hundreds of Activities -- they will NOT all fit into ~/Activities. When that happens, "how to still have security" will need to be re-thought. [What I have in mind is a 'hook-up' facility, which would "add in" Activities which reside elsewhere.] mikus (this is a "hot button" for me) ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
