Re: [Sugar-devel] Reg. how to start contribution?

2014-11-25 Thread Walter Bender
I think it best to get a sense of the activity stack before exploring
Sugar core. So play with some activities... look at the source to
begin to get a sense of the activity structure, and then either chase
down a bug from our bug tracker or try making a change/enhancement of
your choosing.

-walter

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Sanatan Mishra  wrote:
> Thank you.
> I got the developer environment up and running.
> Please explain me step two.
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Walter Bender 
> wrote:
>>
>> Step Zero: hang out in our IRC channel (irc.freenode.net #sugar)
>> Step One: get the developer environment [1] up and running;
>> Step Two: Maybe poke around with a few tickets [2] regarding Sugar
>> activities to get a feel for the code.
>>
>> [1] developer.sugarlabs.org
>> [2] bugs.sugarlabs.org
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Sanatan Mishra 
>> wrote:
>> > Hey,
>> > I want to contribute to sugar labs by solving few bugs.
>> > I am a beginner so I need guidance for starting the contribution.
>> > Please help me by suggesting what should I do and from where to begin.
>> >
>> > Thanking you,
>> > Sanatan Mishra
>> >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Reg. how to start contribution?

2014-11-25 Thread Sanatan Mishra
Thank you.
I got the developer environment up and running.
Please explain me step two.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Walter Bender 
wrote:

> Step Zero: hang out in our IRC channel (irc.freenode.net #sugar)
> Step One: get the developer environment [1] up and running;
> Step Two: Maybe poke around with a few tickets [2] regarding Sugar
> activities to get a feel for the code.
>
> [1] developer.sugarlabs.org
> [2] bugs.sugarlabs.org
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Sanatan Mishra 
> wrote:
> > Hey,
> > I want to contribute to sugar labs by solving few bugs.
> > I am a beginner so I need guidance for starting the contribution.
> > Please help me by suggesting what should I do and from where to begin.
> >
> > Thanking you,
> > Sanatan Mishra
> >
> >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Reg. how to start contribution?

2014-11-25 Thread Walter Bender
Step Zero: hang out in our IRC channel (irc.freenode.net #sugar)
Step One: get the developer environment [1] up and running;
Step Two: Maybe poke around with a few tickets [2] regarding Sugar
activities to get a feel for the code.

[1] developer.sugarlabs.org
[2] bugs.sugarlabs.org

regards.

-walter

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Sanatan Mishra  wrote:
> Hey,
> I want to contribute to sugar labs by solving few bugs.
> I am a beginner so I need guidance for starting the contribution.
> Please help me by suggesting what should I do and from where to begin.
>
> Thanking you,
> Sanatan Mishra
>
>
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[Sugar-devel] Reg. how to start contribution?

2014-11-25 Thread Sanatan Mishra
Hey,
I want to contribute to sugar labs by solving few bugs.
I am a beginner so I need guidance for starting the contribution.
Please help me by suggesting what should I do and from where to begin.

Thanking you,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 13:09 +, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Sebastian Silva
>  wrote:
> > btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no?
> 
> No, it's not, it happens all the time. It might be that it breaks in
> certain situations, isn't re-distributable, causes problems the
> upstream maintainer won't fix or any number of other reasons. What
> ever the reason is it's historical and not documented, I wouldn't
> assume malice. It's likely because translations or similar were broken
> at the time. I mean we are talking the heady days of Fedora 14 when it
> was removed!
> 
> Peter
> 
> >
> > 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva :
> >> I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed.
> >> It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru.
> >> I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I
> >> aware of any bugs related to it or performance.
> >>
> >> Please add it back
> >> Sebastian Silva
> >> http://somosazucar.org/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson :
> >>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard  
> >>> wrote:
> 
> 
>  On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson 
>  wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
> > wrote:
> > > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
> > > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
> >
> > It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
> > working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
> > working for years does it suddenly break.
> >
> >
> > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
> 
Just an observation, mainly from what I learned the past few days,
rather than memory.

Alice's brain in Speak has mysteriously appeared and disappeared for me
in SoaS.

I just ran a SoaS Coconut CD, with Speak-29 on it. No functioning brain.
However I am guessing at the time I used it last, Speak would have been
updated from ASLO, and as a "Stick", the brain would have been
functioning.

Iain
> 
>  That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make 
>  the
>  activity
>  work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
>  cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.
> 
>  I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots 
>  directory,
>  _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of 
>  the
>  bots data,
>  but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add 
>  the
>  bot directory again.
> >>>
> >>> I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason.
> >>>
> >>> Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.
> >>>
> >>> Peter


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [POC-change] Fedora packages point of contact updates

2014-11-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Jerry Vonau  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Hate to report that due to dependencies pointed out earlier[1],
> sugar-tamtam has been retired from F21[2].

Yes, it can be fixed and re-packaged and then resubmiited but nobody
has stepped up to test, make it work and update it from the ancient
version that was shipped. I have mixed feeling about this but I
personally don't really have the time to deal with it at the moment
and it seems most people that care about the activities only care
enough if it's them not doing the work. I'd like to be proven wrong
though.

Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Sebastian Silva
 wrote:
> btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no?

No, it's not, it happens all the time. It might be that it breaks in
certain situations, isn't re-distributable, causes problems the
upstream maintainer won't fix or any number of other reasons. What
ever the reason is it's historical and not documented, I wouldn't
assume malice. It's likely because translations or similar were broken
at the time. I mean we are talking the heady days of Fedora 14 when it
was removed!

Peter

>
> 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva :
>> I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed.
>> It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru.
>> I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I
>> aware of any bugs related to it or performance.
>>
>> Please add it back
>> Sebastian Silva
>> http://somosazucar.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson :
>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard  
>>> wrote:


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson 
 wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
> wrote:
> > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
> > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
>
> It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
> working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
> working for years does it suddenly break.
>
>
> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198


 That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the
 activity
 work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
 cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.

 I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory,
 _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the
 bots data,
 but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the
 bot directory again.
>>>
>>> I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason.
>>>
>>> Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.
>>>
>>> Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Ahh, sorry, wrong Sebastian!

Gonzalo

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Sebastian Silva 
wrote:

> So ask Sebastian Dzallas why he removed my contribution!
> Sebastian Silva
> http://somosazucar.org/
>
>
>
> 2014-11-25 7:50 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard :
> > Yes, but that is what this patch do, right?
> >
> >
> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Sebastian Silva <
> sebast...@somosazucar.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no?
> >> Sebastian Silva
> >> http://somosazucar.org/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva :
> >> > I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed.
> >> > It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru.
> >> > I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I
> >> > aware of any bugs related to it or performance.
> >> >
> >> > Please add it back
> >> > Sebastian Silva
> >> > http://somosazucar.org/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson :
> >> >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson <
> pbrobin...@gmail.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> 
> >>  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
> >>  
> >>  wrote:
> >>  > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be
> deleted.
> >>  > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
> >> 
> >>  It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
> >>  working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has
> been
> >>  working for years does it suddenly break.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to
> make
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> activity
> >> >>> work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
> >> >>> cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots
> >> >>> directory,
> >> >>> _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need
> >> >>> of the
> >> >>> bots data,
> >> >>> but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better
> >> >>> add the
> >> >>> bot directory again.
> >> >>
> >> >> I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the
> >> >> reason.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.
> >> >>
> >> >> Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gonzalo Odiard
> >
> > SugarLabs - Software for children learning
>



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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Sebastian Silva
So ask Sebastian Dzallas why he removed my contribution!
Sebastian Silva
http://somosazucar.org/



2014-11-25 7:50 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard :
> Yes, but that is what this patch do, right?
>
> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Sebastian Silva 
> wrote:
>>
>> btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no?
>> Sebastian Silva
>> http://somosazucar.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva :
>> > I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed.
>> > It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru.
>> > I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I
>> > aware of any bugs related to it or performance.
>> >
>> > Please add it back
>> > Sebastian Silva
>> > http://somosazucar.org/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson :
>> >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson 
>> >>> wrote:
>> 
>>  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
>>  
>>  wrote:
>>  > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
>>  > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
>> 
>>  It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
>>  working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
>>  working for years does it suddenly break.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make
>> >>> the
>> >>> activity
>> >>> work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
>> >>> cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.
>> >>>
>> >>> I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots
>> >>> directory,
>> >>> _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need
>> >>> of the
>> >>> bots data,
>> >>> but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better
>> >>> add the
>> >>> bot directory again.
>> >>
>> >> I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the
>> >> reason.
>> >>
>> >> Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.
>> >>
>> >> Peter
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Yes, but that is what this patch do, right?

http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Sebastian Silva 
wrote:

> btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no?
> Sebastian Silva
> http://somosazucar.org/
>
>
>
> 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva :
> > I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed.
> > It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru.
> > I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I
> > aware of any bugs related to it or performance.
> >
> > Please add it back
> > Sebastian Silva
> > http://somosazucar.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson :
> >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <
> godi...@sugarlabs.org>
>  wrote:
>  > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
>  > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
> 
>  It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
>  working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
>  working for years does it suddenly break.
> 
> 
> 
> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make
> the
> >>> activity
> >>> work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
> >>> cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.
> >>>
> >>> I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots
> directory,
> >>> _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need
> of the
> >>> bots data,
> >>> but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better
> add the
> >>> bot directory again.
> >>
> >> I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the
> reason.
> >>
> >> Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.
> >>
> >> Peter
>



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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Sebastian Silva
btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no?
Sebastian Silva
http://somosazucar.org/



2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva :
> I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed.
> It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru.
> I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I
> aware of any bugs related to it or performance.
>
> Please add it back
> Sebastian Silva
> http://somosazucar.org/
>
>
>
> 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson :
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson 
>>> wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
 wrote:
 > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
 > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.

 It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
 working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
 working for years does it suddenly break.


 http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
>>>
>>>
>>> That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the
>>> activity
>>> work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
>>> cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.
>>>
>>> I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory,
>>> _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the
>>> bots data,
>>> but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the
>>> bot directory again.
>>
>> I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason.
>>
>> Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.
>>
>> Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Sebastian Silva
I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed.
It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru.
I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I
aware of any bugs related to it or performance.

Please add it back
Sebastian Silva
http://somosazucar.org/



2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson :
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard  
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
>>> wrote:
>>> > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
>>> > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
>>>
>>> It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
>>> working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
>>> working for years does it suddenly break.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
>>
>>
>> That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the
>> activity
>> work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
>> cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.
>>
>> I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory,
>> _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the
>> bots data,
>> but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the
>> bot directory again.
>
> I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason.
>
> Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.
>
> Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
>> wrote:
>> > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
>> > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
>>
>> It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
>> working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
>> working for years does it suddenly break.
>>
>>
>> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
>
>
> That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the
> activity
> work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
> cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.
>
> I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory,
> _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the
> bots data,
> but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the
> bot directory again.

I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason.

Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.

Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson 
wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
> wrote:
> > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
> > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
>
> It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
> working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
> working for years does it suddenly break.
>
>
> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198


That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the
activity
work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.

I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory,
_and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the
bots data,
but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the
bot directory again.

Gonzalo
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Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-runner not working in f21 Workstation

2014-11-25 Thread Peter Robinson
That's not a fix, it's a work around. I suspect something has changed
or broken in Xephyr when used with mesa/3D etc.

Peter

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Thomas Gilliard  wrote:
> How to fix this:
>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_21#Fix_sugar-runner_in_workstation
>
> Thanks to pbrobinson  (previous comment in this thread and mcatanzaro on
> #fedora-desktop Giimpnet irc
>
> Tom Gilliard
> satellit
>
>
> On 11/14/2014 11:32 AM, Sam P. wrote:
>
> I have the same issue with full screen on fedora 20 with gnome 3.12.
>
> On Nov 15, 2014 3:16 AM, "Peter Robinson"  wrote:
>>
>> With more testing it seems to run OK from the command line if you
>> specify a resolution eg "sugar-runner --resolution 1024x768" so I'm
>> not sure the issue with full screen
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
>> wrote:
>> > Please copy all the output.
>> >
>> > Gonzalo
>> >
>> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Thomas Gilliard 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I can do alt+tab and get to stalled terminal or "unknown"  no response
>> >> or
>> >> output on terminal
>> >> alt+f2 (Command window) works to reboot.
>> >> On reboot into sugar; terminal fails to start.
>> >>  Log app terminal last 2 lines:
>> >>  TypeError: argument foreground: Expected Gdk.RGBA, but got
>> >> gi.overrides.GFK.Color
>> >>  Exited with status 1
>> >>
>> >> Tom Gilliard
>> >> satellit
>> >>
>> >> On 11/14/2014 1:37 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I seem the same on gnome3 but I don't need to restart, I get a black
>> >>> screen but can alt+tab away and kill it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Peter
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Thomas Gilliard
>> >>> 
>> >>> wrote:
>> 
>>  I tested sugar-runner in f21 workstation beta TC2 (bare metal install
>>  updated) and I get a grey screen but no  sugar...
>>  sugar-runner locks up fedora and seems to require a power cycle to
>>  escape
>>  sugar-desktop starts and works fine from gdm login with sugar
>>  selected.
>> 
>>  in xfce and lxde sugar runner works correctly
>> 
>>  Tom Gilliard
>>  satellit on freenode IRC
>> 
>>  Possibly due to this bug?
>>  [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1136581#c5
>> >
>> > The GNOME_KEYRING_PID variable was removed in the version of
>> > gnome-keyring
>> > included with f21:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-keyring-list/2014-March/msg0.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  [2]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_21_Final_TC2_Desktop#Sugar_.28non-blocking.2C_all_arches.29
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

2014-11-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:
> You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
> I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.

It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
working for years does it suddenly break.

http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198

> Gonzalo
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Iain Brown Douglas
>  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 12:28 +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
>> > On Sun, 2014-11-23 at 19:15 +, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
>> > > On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 00:52 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > The folder bot/ and its contents were not in the
>> > > > Speak.activity folder.
>> > > >
>> > > > I deleted /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/
>> > > > I re-installed Speak by importing speak-48.xo with a USB
>> > > > stick.
>> > > > Alice is now running complete with brain.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Ok, that confirms the .xo is ok,
>> > > > can you uninstall the activity again, and install the activity using
>> > > > the rpm?
>> > > > The rpm should be named sugar-speak
>> > >
>> > > Same behaviour after:
>> > >
>> > > sudo rpm -evv sugar-speak-48*
>> > >
>> > > then
>> > >
>> > > rpmbuild --rebuild -vv sugar-speak-48-1.fc21.src.rpm
>> > >
>> > > Alice: "I don't know what you are talking about"
>> > >
>> > > Directory bot/ is again missing
>> > > from /usr/share/sugar/activities/Speak.activity/
>> > >
>> > Two attachments,
>> >
>> >
>> > 1. "Speak11-Action2_attach"
>> >
>> > This is the only mention that I found of the folder bot/ in the install
>> > logs.
>> >
>> >
>> > I cannot explain the line
>> >
>> > + rm -rf .0sugar bot
>> >
>> Until I read sugar-speak.spec - line 32.
>>
>> Iain
>> >
>> > 2. I made "SpeakContentReview" in case it throws any light.
>> >
>> > As I see it the differences are:
>> > AUTHORS
>> > bot/
>> > po/
>> > *.pyo
>> >
>> >
>> > Environment, hard drive install from Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4.iso
>> >
>> > Iain
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Gonzalo
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
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