Re: Difference in outcome - Blaah.com vs Blaah.com/ ?

[Mark Hansen]

On 05/03/09 17:25, Daniel wrote:
> Mark Hansen wrote:
>> On 05/02/09 17:07, Daniel wrote:
>>> DoctorBill wrote:
 What is the difference between whatever.com vs whatever.com/ when you 
 type them into the Location bar?

 Is one faster than the other or difference in where it goes...?

 Just curious.

 DoctorBill
>>> DoctorBill, part of your answer may be that when you put whatever.com 
>>> into your location bar, SeaMonkey actually goes looking for a file 
>>> called index.html (which is the file, as I understand it, that sets out 
>>> the layout of the page) at whatever.com, whereas if you entered 
>>> whatever.com/, it would go looking for an index.html at a sub-level of 
>>> the main site.
>> 
>> Are you sure about that? I think you'll find that SeaMonkey requests just
>> what was asked for, and the *server* decides what to send by default.
>> 
>> It's actually up to the server to decide the difference.
>> 
> 
> No, I am not sure, it's just that when I set up my website, that's the 
> file my ISP told me to set up.
> 
> I suppose others might do it differently.
> 
> Daniel

They told you to use that file name because it is the file the *server*
is going to send by default. It has nothing to do with SeaMonkey.
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Re: Unable to download 2.0a3

[Daniel]

Gerald Ross wrote:
I have tried to dl the new Seamonkey alpha in the past couple of days. 
It seems to download fine for about 95% then aborts. Tried from two 
sites and even tried with IE, no dice.


Any advice?  I did download the zipped file but don't know what to do 
with it. It unzips to all the files, but does not seem to have an 
installer.


Gerald, last time I used the zip file, it just installed into a 
functional version of SM, wherever I put the program.


UnZip it to some place, then run the file called SeaMonkey and you 
should be up and running.


Daniel
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Re: Sudden loss of access to bank site

[Daniel]

John Doue wrote:

Hi,

With 1.1.6, it seems I can no longer access a bank site
https://www.paikallisosuuspankit.fi/VerkkopalvelutWeb/index.jsp?B=4764
which I had no problem with a few days ago, even after upgrading to 1.1.6.
Site display normally in firefox. Spoofing SM does not work. Any ideas?



Loads, eventually, for me and my SM 1.1.15

Looks all Double-Dutch to me!

Daniel
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Re: SM + ReminderFox on VISTA -- Help needed

[David E. Ross]

On 4/26/2009 1:37 AM, gNeandr wrote:
> Also Reminderfox 1.9.1 has been made compatible with SM1.x and SM2.x and 
> some installation reports saying it's OK with that combination, we have 
> one user not getting it up.
> He reports it's OK with WINxp/SM/RmFx and also OK with the combination 
> of VISTA/Firefox/ReminderFox but not with VISTA + SM + RmFx.
> 
> His latest description is posted here:
> http://www.nabble.com/Vista-%2B-SM-%2B-RF-to23235171.html
> 
> Are there any further helps, hints or similar observation with this or 
> other extensions based on VISTA/SM??
> 
> Any help is very much welcomed.
> 
> Günter
> 

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who comes in to have Vista installed, they get 10 customers come in to
have Windows XP replace Vista.

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Re: Sudden loss of access to bank site

[David E. Ross]

On 5/3/2009 11:41 AM, John Doue wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> With 1.1.6, it seems I can no longer access a bank site
> https://www.paikallisosuuspankit.fi/VerkkopalvelutWeb/index.jsp?B=4764
> which I had no problem with a few days ago, even after upgrading to 1.1.6.
> Site display normally in firefox. Spoofing SM does not work. Any ideas?
> 

Did you mean 1.1.16 (the latest version)?  Or did you really mean 1.1.6
(which is no longer available)?

I went to the link you gave, and the page seems to have loaded okay.  I
don't read Finnish, so I cannot tell if it really is okay.  Not having
an account at any foreign bank, I could not logon.

Windows XP Home Edition 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2
AVG Anti-Virus 8.5.287

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21)
Gecko/20090403 SeaMonkey/1.1.16
Cookies for the originating Web site only

No firewall or proxy
Java J2SE RTE 6 update 13

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Re: Difference in outcome - Blaah.com vs Blaah.com/ ?

[Daniel]

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 05/02/09 17:07, Daniel wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:
What is the difference between whatever.com vs whatever.com/ when you 
type them into the Location bar?


Is one faster than the other or difference in where it goes...?

Just curious.

DoctorBill
DoctorBill, part of your answer may be that when you put whatever.com 
into your location bar, SeaMonkey actually goes looking for a file 
called index.html (which is the file, as I understand it, that sets out 
the layout of the page) at whatever.com, whereas if you entered 
whatever.com/, it would go looking for an index.html at a sub-level of 
the main site.


Are you sure about that? I think you'll find that SeaMonkey requests just
what was asked for, and the *server* decides what to send by default.

It's actually up to the server to decide the difference.



No, I am not sure, it's just that when I set up my website, that's the 
file my ISP told me to set up.


I suppose others might do it differently.

Daniel
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Re: Sudden loss of access to bank site

[Michael Gordon]

John Doue replied On 5/3/2009 1:41 PM


Hi,

With 1.1.6, it seems I can no longer access a bank site
https://www.paikallisosuuspankit.fi/VerkkopalvelutWeb/index.jsp?B=4764
which I had no problem with a few days ago, even after upgrading to 1.1.6.
Site display normally in firefox. Spoofing SM does not work. Any ideas?

It looks like the page is made up of Framesets and the coding is wrong, 
therefore SeaMonkey cannot display the page.  IE will display the page 
the way it thinks it should look.  The page also looks like it is 
composed by some automatic application that has no idea how to write HTML.


Michael
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Re: Sudden loss of access to bank site

[Barry Edwin Gilmour]

John Doue wrote:

Hi,

With 1.1.6, it seems I can no longer access a bank site
https://www.paikallisosuuspankit.fi/VerkkopalvelutWeb/index.jsp?B=4764
which I had no problem with a few days ago, even after upgrading to 
1.1.6.

Site display normally in firefox. Spoofing SM does not work. Any ideas?

probably not what you want to hear, but site displays OK in SM20b1pre 
without spoofing--
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1b5pre) Gecko/20090502 
Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0b1pre ID:20090502000530

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/3497814479/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/3498631542/
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Re: Can you do a "Search" of the Sent files Folder?

[Michael Gordon]

Mark Hansen replied On 5/2/2009 11:28 PM


On 05/02/09 18:58, Michael Gordon wrote:

DoctorBill replied On 5/2/2009 7:27 PM


My set file list is huge 100's of messages

I want to go back and find some messages with some data in them,
but I don't remember when, to whom, or the title of the messages.
It was a while back.

I'm not goofy (well a little bit, maybe) - it is just that I never 
thought I'd be wanting that data ever again.


Can I run a search thru the "Sent Files" folder somehow looking for 
certain keywords?


DoctorBill
You should be able to search messages in any folder you select, 
including the sent folder.


It will take some work on your part to set this up in your mail account. 
  To guide you along select your account sent folder, then select the 
View drop down box and from that menu select "Customize".  On the 
Customize dialog box click the Help button and read all about creating a 
custom view and how to search within that view.  You can search the 
message body for the phrase you need.


Ummm, why not just use Tools -> Search Messages?

In the 'Search for messages in' dropdown, you can select your Sent
folder. In the Match entry, you can use the drop-down to select what
part of the message you want to search, including the Subject, the
From line, the message body, etc.



Because once he creates the custom search he can then modify the search 
terms for additional searching, and save the modified search as a new 
option.


Michael
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locale problem?? : SM + ReminderFox on VISTA -- Help needed

[gNeandr]

[26.04.2009 10:37]»gNeandr« wrote:
Also Reminderfox 1.9.1 has been made compatible with SM1.x and SM2.x 
and some installation reports saying it's OK with that combination, we 
have one user not getting it up.
He reports it's OK with WINxp/SM/RmFx and also OK with the combination 
of VISTA/Firefox/ReminderFox but not with VISTA + SM + RmFx.


His latest description is posted here:
http://www.nabble.com/Vista-%2B-SM-%2B-RF-to23235171.html

Are there any further helps, hints or similar observation with this or 
other extensions based on VISTA/SM??


Any help is very much welcomed.

Günter


Just a short notice the user having the problem:
It would seem that the loading problem of SM+RF+Vista are all down to 
the fact that I had a French version of Vista. In fact it became 
obvious when other progs started giving me stick.
I have reinstalled my Vista OS into English and no everything loads OK 
BUT, I have 'successfully' loaded RM onto SM


Any explanation for this??
Günter
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Unable to download 2.0a3

[Gerald Ross]

I have tried to dl the new Seamonkey alpha in the past couple of days. 
It seems to download fine for about 95% then aborts. Tried from two 
sites and even tried with IE, no dice.


Any advice?  I did download the zipped file but don't know what to do 
with it. It unzips to all the files, but does not seem to have an 
installer.

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Unwanted text display modes

[Keith Whaley]

What I use:

SeaMonkey 1.1.16
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21)
Lucida Grande font
Character encoding: Western ISO-8859-1

I never paid much attention to it before now, but how my list messages (text 
documents) display is getting irritating, so I decided to look into why it 
does what it does.


I type a standard ascii text document, such as in an email or list message, in 
which I've put in a few apostrophes and a bullet or two here and there, and I 
get all sorts of odd characters INSTEAD of what I typed.


My sentence leading bullets display as s Yen currency symbol.
The apostrophes appear as a capital O with a circumflex over it.

Get document info calls it the Quirk mode of displaying text in Mozilla. I 
guess.

I really don't like it, and I want to find a way to avoid using html, just to 
have my text show up as I type it!


Is there another solution?
I see this odd character substution all the time, in other documents on the 
'net, even some you would have thought would have been composed in html, yet 
they still have these quirky (had to say it!) substitutions for apostrophes, 
etc...


Thanks for any help...

keith whaley
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Sudden loss of access to bank site

[John Doue]

Hi,

With 1.1.6, it seems I can no longer access a bank site
https://www.paikallisosuuspankit.fi/VerkkopalvelutWeb/index.jsp?B=4764
which I had no problem with a few days ago, even after upgrading to 1.1.6.
Site display normally in firefox. Spoofing SM does not work. Any ideas?

--
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Re: best version

[John Doue]

Benoit Renard wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:
Why not creating a version without "vulnerabilities" ... i'ts ennoying 
to always upgrade, upgrade, and upgrade ...


You talk as if that's possible. :)
Patches welcome.
The best version is the one you have been using for a while to your 
satisfaction.


Before upgrading to any other version, make sure you will be able to 
downgrade back to that version in case you run into problems. And do not 
think those potential problems will appear overnight.


The advice to upgrade to a supposedly safer version has to balanced 
against the risk this new version has some bugs the previous one did not 
have, which can happen in spite of the trouble developers and testers 
take for this no to happen.


The wise man does not rush.
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Re: book marks

[John Doue]

h.godavaris...@shaw.stopca wrote:

Daniel wrote:

h.godavaris...@shaw.stopca wrote:
Yesterday all the book marks vanished from SeaMonkey v 1.1.14 The OS 
is Win98SE. I would like to recover the file and would appreciate any 
help. Thank you.


regards
hg


Do a search for bookmarks.html. If you find more than one, from 
SeaMonkey, go bookmarks->Manage bookmarks then within the bookmarks 
section try Tools->Import to see if the extra bookmark files are what 
you want.


HTH

Daniel
Thanks for your suggestion Daniel. I could not locate another 
Bookmarks.html


regard
hg.
it could not hurt to widen your search by searching for "bookmarks.*". 
Chances may be slim, but ...
Then, once you have done that, I suggest checking your disk for errors. 
Files seldom vanish without a reason, and that reason can be a write 
error. You might not recover your bookmarks (when was your last backup, 
by the way?), but at least you might discover a file error and correct 
it. No sense restoring or recreating bookmarks if an error is still 
lurking on your disk.


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Re: Password manager

[David E. Ross]

On 5/3/2009 8:16 AM, Joe Farruggio wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>  I am using SeaMonkey ver 1.1.16 and have a pref.js file but i cannot 
> find a user.js file. Can i just modify the pref.js file?

Be careful.

First of all, changes to prefs.js (NOT pref.js) will "stick" only if
SeaMonkey is not running when you make the changes.  Don't just exit
SeaMonkey, but also make sure it's not running in the background (e.g.,
because of QuickStart).  But then this is also true if you change
user.js; the results won't propagate into prefs.js until SeaMonkey is
completely terminated and then restarted.

It's too easy to lose track of what you changed if you work directly in
prefs.js.  Then you will have trouble if it becomes necessary to undo
those changes.

It's also too easy to corrupt prefs.js by entering something incorrectly.

If you can't find user.js, create it as a text file.

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Re: Password manager

[Chris Ilias]

On 03/05/09 11:16 AM, Joe Farruggio wrote:

Joe wrote:
I am using SeaMonkey ver 1.1.16 and have a pref.js file but i cannot
find a user.js file. Can i just modify the pref.js file?


See .

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Password manager

[Joe Farruggio]

Joe wrote:
I am using SeaMonkey ver 1.1.16 and have a pref.js file but i cannot 
find a user.js file. Can i just modify the pref.js file?





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Re: Password manager

[David E. Ross]

On 5/2/2009 12:53 PM, John wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 5/1/2009 12:38 PM, John wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 On 4/24/2009 11:26 AM, John wrote:
> The password manager in SeaMonkey doesn't always offer to save a 
> password, depending on the site being visited. I have noticed in 
> particular that it frequently won't save a password for a secure website 
> having an https://... address. And yet this is not always the case. It 
> will save the password for some secure sites. Is there any way to get it 
> to save the passwords for all sites? Thanks!
>
> John
 I found that putting the following into the user.js file for my profile
 significantly expands the scope of the Password Manager:
user_pref("wallet.crypto", true);
user_pref("wallet.crypto.autocompleteoverride", true);

 Don't forget the semi-colon at the end of the line.  You must then
 completely terminate SeaMonkey and then restart it for this to become
 effective.

 There will still be a few sites remaining where this doesn't work.
 Also, nothing in SeaMonkey 1.1.x will help if the user ID and password
 are entered in separate Web pages; I was told that the Password Manager
 for SeaMonkey 2.x will indeed handle that situation.
>>> After adding these two lines to my user.js file, I now am getting a 
>>> popup "Change Master Password" (current password (not set)) every time I 
>>> login where a password is being stored. I want to understand this better 
>>> before I add a master password. I have never seen this popup before. Advice?
>>>
>>> John
>> Someone else will have to answer this.  I've never seen this.
> 
> I added a master password. Now, anytime I go to a site where I have
> stored a password, I get a popup asking me for the master password.
> Strangely, if I click cancel instead of giving it the master password,
> it still lets me login to the site with the stored password.

On the SeaMonkey toolbar, select [Edit > Preferences].  On the left side
of the Preferences window, select [Privacy & Security > Master
Passwords].  On the Master Passwords Pane, in the middle under "Master
Password Timeout", is the radio button for "Every time it is needed"
selected?  If so, select one of the other two radio buttons.  (I have
"The first time it is needed" selected, which means the first time for
each session.)


> Apparently when I added those two lines to the user.js file, it caused
> some other setting to change, because restoring the original user.js
> file has failed to revert the browser's behavior to what it was before I
> started messing with it.
> 
> I have backed up my profile and would like to try to get things back to
> where they were. Before I try anything else, does SeaMonkey store any
> settings anywhere other than in the profile, e.g. in the Windows Registry?
> 
> I notice in Firefox 3, there is a box under security to check or uncheck
> top tell it if you want a master password. SeaMonkey doesn't seem to
> have this, but I've seen the dire warning that if I reset the master
> password all stored passwords will be lost.

On the SeaMonkey toolbar, select [Edit > Preferences].  On the left side
of the Preferences window, select [Privacy & Security > Passwords]
(omitting the "Master").  The checkbox under "Encrypting versus
Obscuring" indicates whether you want to use a master password.  If the
checkbox is checked for encryption, then you will use a master password.


> The "Change Master Password" popup can be seen in SeaMonkey at
> Edit->Preferences->Privacy and Security->Master Passwords->Change
> Password. What will happen if I enter the current password in that form
> and leave the boxes for "new password" blank?
> 
> John


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Re: book marks

[h . godavariSTOP]

Daniel wrote:

h.godavaris...@shaw.stopca wrote:
Yesterday all the book marks vanished from SeaMonkey v 1.1.14 The OS 
is Win98SE. I would like to recover the file and would appreciate any 
help. Thank you.


regards
hg


Do a search for bookmarks.html. If you find more than one, from 
SeaMonkey, go bookmarks->Manage bookmarks then within the bookmarks 
section try Tools->Import to see if the extra bookmark files are what 
you want.


HTH

Daniel

Thanks for your suggestion Daniel. I could not locate another Bookmarks.html

regard
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Re: best version

[Benoit Renard]

Ray_Net wrote:
Why not creating a version without "vulnerabilities" ... i'ts ennoying 
to always upgrade, upgrade, and upgrade ...


You talk as if that's possible. :)
Patches welcome.
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Re: Difference in outcome - Blaah.com vs Blaah.com/ ?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sat, 02 May 2009 15:01:44 -0800, /DoctorBill/:

What is the difference between whatever.com vs whatever.com/ when you 
type them into the Location bar?


Is one faster than the other or difference in where it goes...?


There's no difference.  In both cases the browser will request the 
root / path.


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Re: Can you do a "Search" of the Sent files Folder?

[BeeNeR]

On or about 5/2/2009 8:27 PM, DoctorBill typed the following:
> My set file list is huge 100's of messages
> 
> I want to go back and find some messages with some data in them,
> but I don't remember when, to whom, or the title of the messages.
> It was a while back.
> 
> I'm not goofy (well a little bit, maybe) - it is just that I never
> thought I'd be wanting that data ever again.
> 
> Can I run a search thru the "Sent Files" folder somehow looking for
> certain keywords?
> 
> DoctorBill
>From the SeaMonkey 'Help' file:

Searching for Specific Messages

You can search mail folders or newsgroups for specific messages. If you
are not already viewing the Search Messages dialog box, begin from the
Mail window:

   1.   Open the Tools menu and choose Search Messages. You see the
Search Messages dialog box.

   2.   Next to Search for messages in, choose the account, newsgroup,
or folder through which you want to search.

   3.   Select Search subfolders to include all subfolders in the
search.

   4.   Select Search local system to search only messages from
newsgroups or IMAP accounts that have been saved locally.


  Note: The checkbox will be disabled if it's not
possible to search remotely stored messages.



   5.   Select which matching option Mail & Newsgroups will use to
search for messages that match all or at least one of the conditions
(criteria) that you choose.

   6.   Use the drop-down lists to indicate the search criteria (for
example, Subject and contains) and then type the text or phrase that
you want to match.


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