Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
. Each report cost me at least $30 to $60. Solar Energy Institute in Golden CO. published a neat small report in 1985 called Fuel options from Microalgae dated July 1984. If you get into this you will need to buy quite a few chemicals, some common like Epsom Salt, baking soda and some pretty exotic. If you want to look at houses for your critters search on the net for photobioreactor . Tried this once and failed. Also wife and daughters saw no humor in growing pond scum in the house. May try this one day when I get some space out of the house but am more interested in finding cheap sources of oil seeds. Hope this helps. Good luck. You're not the first to reach that conclusion. Previously a list member set up ponds and so on and was going ahead full-steam but we never heard any more about it. Another list member researched the subject, he had good technical resources, and concluded that it's a waste of time right now, it just isn't there yet, at least not at a doable small-scale level. Marc Carduso of Ecogenics has posted several upbeat messages on the subject in the last few weeks. He's talked of Algae production for food fuel and fertiliser, algaeculture technology for oil production and algae based Living fuel cell technology, and referred list members to his website for further information. www.dabney.com/ecogenics/ I didn't find much information there, maybe I should have looked harder. I saw some photographs that looked to me like water hyacinth and duckweed, nice for greywater/blackwater treatment systems. I guess there's something I'm missing. I'm not being sceptical, just need more info I think. What's not clear to me is whether Marc has actually succeeded in producing lipids from algae in usable form and quantity. When last we heard Marc hadn't made any biodiesel yet but would be doing so soon. I don't know if Marc has made yet biodiesel from algae lipids. Can you tell us a bit more Marc? Meanwhile, personally I take your view Lowell, cheap sources of oil seeds are more interesting. There's huge and very largely unexplored potential in oil-bearing plants, as well as in productive and efficient ways of producing them. For instance, a quick search of James Duke's Handbook of Energy Crops finds 62 legumes, both plants and trees, either of which can be fitted to the cropping and growing patterns on integrated sutainable farms in a variety of ways, perhaps as cover crops, interplanted or undersown, for forage or green manure, earning their keep independently of their oil potential, which would come as a bonus produced without the dedicated use of of any land, or time and labour. Trees can be even more interesting. That's just some of the legumes. http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/dukeindex.html Handbook of Energy Crops Index Best Keith Lowell From: balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:48:23 +0530 Hi all, So am I. Balaji, Chennai, TN, India - Original Message - From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I am interested as well. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands. The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: wwschnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae. What I would like to do is an experiment. Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from algae? Could I do it in a home lab? Thanks
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constraints have made it prudent to go slowly and deliberatly in all our endeavours one look at our website and one can see that we have touched upon many areas of RD over the years.we expect that with some wise investment of time and money we will successfully adress the extraction and production phase of the algae to biodiesel program..we will of course keep you posted as to our progressin the meantime we are ready to produce biodiesel from wvo...we have made the necessary modifications to our distillery so we can do this... Marc... -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lowell A lot of lit on this subject during 1980s. Search on NTIS which is U.S. gov repository for gov funded research. The critters you want info on are called Microalgae not algae and they produce Lipids which you and I call oil. If you want info about getting the oil out of the microalgae search on the net for Lipid Extraction. Most of NTIS research on this is under program called Aquatic Species Program. Try to get 1987 and 1985 reports. Each report cost me at least $30 to $60. Solar Energy Institute in Golden CO. published a neat small report in 1985 called Fuel options from Microalgae dated July 1984. If you get into this you will need to buy quite a few chemicals, some common like Epsom Salt, baking soda and some pretty exotic. If you want to look at houses for your critters search on the net for photobioreactor . Tried this once and failed. Also wife and daughters saw no humor in growing pond scum in the house. May try this one day when I get some space out of the house but am more interested in finding cheap sources of oil seeds. Hope this helps. Good luck. You're not the first to reach that conclusion. Previously a list member set up ponds and so on and was going ahead full- steam but we never heard any more about it. Another list member researched the subject, he had good technical resources, and concluded that it's a waste of time right now, it just isn't there yet, at least not at a doable small-scale level. Marc Carduso of Ecogenics has posted several upbeat messages on the subject in the last few weeks. He's talked of Algae production for food fuel and fertiliser, algaeculture technology for oil production and algae based Living fuel cell technology, and referred list members to his website for further information. www.dabney.com/ecogenics/ I didn't find much information there, maybe I should have looked harder. I saw some photographs that looked to me like water hyacinth and duckweed, nice for greywater/blackwater treatment systems. I guess there's something I'm missing. I'm not being sceptical, just need more info I think. What's not clear to me is whether Marc has actually succeeded in producing lipids from algae in usable form and quantity. When last we heard Marc hadn't made any biodiesel yet but would be doing so soon. I don't know if Marc has made yet biodiesel from algae lipids. Can you tell us a bit more Marc? Meanwhile, personally I take your view Lowell, cheap sources of oil seeds are more interesting. There's huge and very largely unexplored potential in oil-bearing plants, as well as in productive and efficient ways of producing them. For instance, a quick search of James Duke's Handbook of Energy Crops finds 62 legumes, both plants and trees, either of which can be fitted to the cropping and growing patterns on integrated sutainable farms in a variety of ways, perhaps as cover crops, interplanted or undersown, for forage or green manure, earning their keep independently of their oil potential, which would come as a bonus produced without the dedicated use of of any land, or time and labour. Trees can be even more interesting. That's just some of the legumes. http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/dukeindex.html Handbook of Energy Crops Index Best Keith Lowell From: balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:48:23 +0530 Hi all, So am I. Balaji, Chennai
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Hi all, So am I. Balaji, Chennai, TN, India - Original Message - From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I am interested as well. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands. The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: wwschnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae. What I would like to do is an experiment. Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from algae? Could I do it in a home lab? Thanks, Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Deze e-mail is door E-mail VirusScanner van Planet Internet gecontroleerd op virussen. Op http://www.planet.nl/evs staat een verwijzing naar de actuele lijst waar op wordt gecontroleerd. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae. What I would like to do is an experiment. Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from algae? Could I do it in a home lab? Thanks, Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I am interested as well. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands. The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: wwschnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae. What I would like to do is an experiment. Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from algae? Could I do it in a home lab? Thanks, Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Deze e-mail is door E-mail VirusScanner van Planet Internet gecontroleerd op virussen. Op http://www.planet.nl/evs staat een verwijzing naar de actuele lijst waar op wordt gecontroleerd. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Hello everybody, I am Dr.Jaya. My post doc project work is based on finding out local strains of algae - as a source of bio fuel. I require help to get price quotations for the euipment such as luminometer, Fermenter,Lumination chamber for culturing microalgae. I will be greatly obliged if you can give me information in this regard. Thanking you, jaya Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Sorry about that the website is www dabney.com/ecogenics/ scroll down to the list of dabney's hosted websites.. or just write in ecogenics on google or aol.. no .com or anything im sure youll find it.. the skin care people are in germany and have nothing to do with us... we dont mind thier using the name because they are not in a related industry. and we like what they do..maybe theyll buy glycerine or pharmaceutical grade alcohol from us someday lolol...by the way this is our twenty fifth aniversary making alcohol in the U.S. Marc -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Lowe wrote: Marc Orion Cardoso wrote: Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on And your web site is where? Replying to my own email, from some references in other emails from the same person http://www.dabney.com/ecogenics/ the tour ecogenics and youll see various fuel grade algaes being propagated... also, we have one of the most comprehensive manuals on the topic. there are two algaes in particular that we favour for biofuels... Dunaliela, and butyrococcus.as to living fuel cells .. chlamidomonas ,under the right conditions ,can produce more hydrogen than any other media but our work in that arena is limited to bench scale and we're not sure how that will translate into full scale as of yet though the potential is staggering.. Marc Regards, Andrew Lowe Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25ยข [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Marc Orion Cardoso wrote: Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on And your web site is where? the tour ecogenics and youll see various fuel grade algaes being propagated... also, we have one of the most comprehensive manuals on the topic. there are two algaes in particular that we favour for biofuels... Dunaliela, and butyrococcus.as to living fuel cells .. chlamidomonas ,under the right conditions ,can produce more hydrogen than any other media but our work in that arena is limited to bench scale and we're not sure how that will translate into full scale as of yet though the potential is staggering.. Marc Regards, Andrew Lowe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Andrew Lowe wrote: Marc Orion Cardoso wrote: Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on And your web site is where? Replying to my own email, from some references in other emails from the same person http://www.dabney.com/ecogenics/ the tour ecogenics and youll see various fuel grade algaes being propagated... also, we have one of the most comprehensive manuals on the topic. there are two algaes in particular that we favour for biofuels... Dunaliela, and butyrococcus.as to living fuel cells .. chlamidomonas ,under the right conditions ,can produce more hydrogen than any other media but our work in that arena is limited to bench scale and we're not sure how that will translate into full scale as of yet though the potential is staggering.. Marc Regards, Andrew Lowe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
