Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2015-05-11 Diskussionsfäden Daniel Stirnimann
Hi Benoit

Transfer of a DNSSEC signed domain is supported by SWITCH, of course.

The problem is that many registrars fail to accept a DNSSEC signed
domain which has *two* or more DS records for a single DNSKEY. As SWITCH
used to publish digest type 1, 2 (and later 4) for each signed domain
(if you were a direct customer of SWITCH) this setup is common. If I
remember correctly, there are still about 180 such domain names in ch.

Me privately as well as at SWITCH we stumbled over this issue when
transferring a signed domain. There are two workarounds:

1) you remove DNSSEC for your domain during the transfer

2) you tell SWITCH to remove all but *one* DS record for your signed
domain. Afterwards, the transfer works just fine.

In the mean time, SWITCH is trying to educate the registrars we know of
who have problems with accepting signed domains with more then one
digest. If you don't mind, please send me the name of the registrar
directly.

We are also in the process of implementing a DNSSEC test procedure which
registrars have do before they can send/receive DNSSEC data over EPP.
Maybe we should have done this earlier.

Daniel

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Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2015-05-11 Diskussionsfäden Matthias Cramer
Hi Benoit

We encountered the same issue. DNSSEC records get removed on transfer and have 
to be re added afterwards.
(As it is with all Domain Information (Owner, Admin, DNS Records etc)

I have not tried yet to register two domains with the same key, as all our 
domains have different keys anyway.

Regards

  Matthias

On 11/05/15 14:18, Benoit Panizzon wrote:
> Dear Swinogers
> 
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UWK6ijLCiLXSIuTT4sS_h0zCqPMCjjhry0b
>> yQprysts/edit?usp=sharing
> 
> Hmm, I'm now also forced to transfer my domains to a new registrar :-). I had 
> to select one of the few that support DNSSEC and IPv6 Glue Records and 
> publish 
> IPv6 addresses for their own DNS Servers.
> 
> But the transfers is a big bumpy... First I got a duplicate key error, 
> related 
> to the fact, that I signed all my domains with the same key. That was not a 
> problam at Switch, but the new registrar claims my domains need a unique key 
> each, for which I can manage the glue records _after_ the transfer.
> 
> The registrar tells me, Switch does not support transfering signed domains. 
> In 
> case of a .ch domain, the 'SEC' key would need to be removed prior to the 
> transfer.
> 
> The switch 'transfer' helpdesk told me, that they have not yet heard about 
> that problem and transfering signed domains should not be a problem. But I 
> got 
> the feeling that the agent was not so well informed about the topic DNSSEC.
> 
> So did anyone succeed to transfer a signed domains from one registrar to 
> another? Or is it mandatory to first remove the DS glue records at switch?
> 
> PS: At IMP we also ended up with multiple copies of our 'DNS Admin' Switch 
> NIC 
> handle at the different registrars to which we have no access anymore because 
> those handels are now owned by customer who transfered their domains.
> 
> Wouldn't it be a future improvement to have some kind of handles shared by 
> all 
> the registrars? Solved by openid or a similar technique?
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüssen
> 
> Benoit Panizzon
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Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2015-05-11 Diskussionsfäden Benoit Panizzon
Dear Swinogers

> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UWK6ijLCiLXSIuTT4sS_h0zCqPMCjjhry0b
> yQprysts/edit?usp=sharing

Hmm, I'm now also forced to transfer my domains to a new registrar :-). I had 
to select one of the few that support DNSSEC and IPv6 Glue Records and publish 
IPv6 addresses for their own DNS Servers.

But the transfers is a big bumpy... First I got a duplicate key error, related 
to the fact, that I signed all my domains with the same key. That was not a 
problam at Switch, but the new registrar claims my domains need a unique key 
each, for which I can manage the glue records _after_ the transfer.

The registrar tells me, Switch does not support transfering signed domains. In 
case of a .ch domain, the 'SEC' key would need to be removed prior to the 
transfer.

The switch 'transfer' helpdesk told me, that they have not yet heard about 
that problem and transfering signed domains should not be a problem. But I got 
the feeling that the agent was not so well informed about the topic DNSSEC.

So did anyone succeed to transfer a signed domains from one registrar to 
another? Or is it mandatory to first remove the DS glue records at switch?

PS: At IMP we also ended up with multiple copies of our 'DNS Admin' Switch NIC 
handle at the different registrars to which we have no access anymore because 
those handels are now owned by customer who transfered their domains.

Wouldn't it be a future improvement to have some kind of handles shared by all 
the registrars? Solved by openid or a similar technique?

Mit freundlichen Grüssen

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Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2014-11-28 Diskussionsfäden Nico Schottelius
Great Idea Oli! 

Thanks a lot for transferring it into something legible!


Oli Schacher [Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 09:03:01AM +0100]:
> I've copied the registrar list from this thread into a spreadsheet - if
> you are willing to put in the feature set from the registrars you know
> hopefully we can get a decent overview.
> 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UWK6ijLCiLXSIuTT4sS_h0zCqPMCjjhry0byQprysts/edit?usp=sharing
> 
> Feel free to edit/add features. If gets abused I'll set to read-only or
> remove it.
> 
> Best regards
> Oli
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Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2014-11-28 Diskussionsfäden Oli Schacher
I've copied the registrar list from this thread into a spreadsheet - if
you are willing to put in the feature set from the registrars you know
hopefully we can get a decent overview.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UWK6ijLCiLXSIuTT4sS_h0zCqPMCjjhry0byQprysts/edit?usp=sharing

Feel free to edit/add features. If gets abused I'll set to read-only or
remove it.

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Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2014-11-26 Diskussionsfäden Ralf Zenklusen
Well
not sure how up-to-date that info is...
We'll support it shortly.

If you have many domains or special wishes e.g. regarding prices, you should 
ask.
This is surly true for many companies on the list.

Yes, there's now a competition and a large list of partners. Good luck in 
finding the right one for you ;-)



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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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Auftrag von Michael Richter
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. November 2014 14:09
An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Betreff: Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

Switch answered me these three will support DNSSEC:

Gandi.net
OVH.com
123 domain.eu 




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Von: Silvan M. Gebhardt / Силван Гебхардт [gebha...@openfactory.ch]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. November 2014 13:58
An: Michael Richter
Cc: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Betreff: Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

Since you asked, I asked back since I gave a statement last week.

Amenic will support DNSSEC by New Year ;)

(I just poked them now again)

Silvan

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Does anyone knows which one of the list supports DNSSEC?





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Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch]" im 
Auftrag von "Thomas Hug [t...@nine.ch]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. November 2014 21:32
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Betreff: Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 20:37, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

> Cool, thanks for the list. Does any of those registrars allow a 5-year 
> payment? Because it's quite annoying to handle those little invoices 
> every year.

You can pay 100.- or 200.- instead of the one year price! At cyon this works 
and it worked also for the good old nic.ch. You will get 0.00 bills until your 
credit is used up.

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Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2014-11-26 Diskussionsfäden Michael Richter
Switch answered me these three will support DNSSEC:

Gandi.net
OVH.com
123 domain.eu 




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Michael Richter
Professional Bachelor ODEC in Engineering
mrich...@sasag.ch
052 633 01 71


Von: Silvan M. Gebhardt / Силван Гебхардт [gebha...@openfactory.ch]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. November 2014 13:58
An: Michael Richter
Cc: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Betreff: Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

Since you asked, I asked back since I gave a statement last week.

Amenic will support DNSSEC by New Year ;)

(I just poked them now again)

Silvan

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Does anyone knows which one of the list supports DNSSEC?





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Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch]" im 
Auftrag von "Thomas Hug [t...@nine.ch]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. November 2014 21:32
An: swi...@swinog.ch
Betreff: Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 20:37, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

> Cool, thanks for the list. Does any of those registrars allow a 5-year
> payment? Because it's quite annoying to handle those little invoices
> every year.

You can pay 100.- or 200.- instead of the one year price! At cyon this
works and it worked also for the good old nic.ch. You will get 0.00
bills until your credit is used up.

-Tom


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Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2014-11-26 Diskussionsfäden Silvan M . Gebhardt / Силван Гебхардт
Since you asked, I asked back since I gave a statement last week.

Amenic will support DNSSEC by New Year ;) 

(I just poked them now again)

Silvan

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Does anyone knows which one of the list supports DNSSEC?





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Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch]" im 
Auftrag von "Thomas Hug [t...@nine.ch]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. November 2014 21:32
An: swi...@swinog.ch
Betreff: Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 20:37, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

> Cool, thanks for the list. Does any of those registrars allow a 5-year
> payment? Because it's quite annoying to handle those little invoices
> every year.

You can pay 100.- or 200.- instead of the one year price! At cyon this
works and it worked also for the good old nic.ch. You will get 0.00
bills until your credit is used up.

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Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2014-11-25 Diskussionsfäden Michael Richter
Does anyone knows which one of the list supports DNSSEC?





Freundliche Grüsse

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Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch]" im 
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 20:37, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

> Cool, thanks for the list. Does any of those registrars allow a 5-year
> payment? Because it's quite annoying to handle those little invoices
> every year.

You can pay 100.- or 200.- instead of the one year price! At cyon this
works and it worked also for the good old nic.ch. You will get 0.00
bills until your credit is used up.

-Tom


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Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2014-11-25 Diskussionsfäden Thomas Hug
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 20:37, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

> Cool, thanks for the list. Does any of those registrars allow a 5-year
> payment? Because it's quite annoying to handle those little invoices
> every year.

You can pay 100.- or 200.- instead of the one year price! At cyon this
works and it worked also for the good old nic.ch. You will get 0.00
bills until your credit is used up.

-Tom


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Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2014-11-25 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin
Cool, thanks for the list. Does any of those registrars allow a 5-year
payment? Because it's quite annoying to handle those little invoices
every year.
On Nov 25, 2014 3:11 PM, "Olivier Mueller"  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> As you most probably all know, .ch domains which are still registered at
> nic.ch have to be moved to another registrar by autumn 2016 (
> https://www.nic.ch/reg/cm/wcm-page/misc/aufgabentrennung.html).
>
> But thanks to some recent marketing campaigns (like "Per 31. Dezember 2014
> braucht Ihre .ch-Domain ein neues Zuhause!"), ads and newspaper articles,
> some customers are already panicking, so I am also looking for a new home
> for a few hundreds of self-hosted domains.
>
>
> Requirements:
> - it should be a registrar only company, if possible (to prevent
>   departure of customers to other hosting companies)
> - customer billed directly
> - DNSSEC / IPV6 capable
> - no aggressive ads on checkout (add antivirus, add top listing, add
>   hosting, etc.)
>
>
> At the moment, my first choice would be gandi.net, even if they are a
> little bit more expensive than the others and they are also selling some
> kind of hosting, because it "just works", and I like their "no bullshit"
> promise :)
>
> But maybe there would be a more suitable alternative, so my question to
> you if you are in a similar situation : which is your new .ch-registrar and
> why ?
>
> Thanks & kind regards,
> Olivier
>
>
>
> PS: just in case, here is the current list of .ch-Registrars according to
> the official listing @ Switch, sorted by yearly-cost (no warranty of
> correctness). 26 companies out of total 70 are not listed (no visible
> public pricing, reseller-only, etc.) :
>
> CHF URL
> 1   8.90http://www.infomaniak.com/en
> 2   9.90https://www1.q-x.ch/
> 3   9.95http://www.greenmark-it.de/
> 4   10.70   https://www.hosttech.ch/
> 5   10.75   https://www.metanet.ch/
> 6   10.81   http://www.ovh.com/fr/index.xml
> 7   11.90   http://www.kreativmedia.ch/de/
> 8   11.96   http://www.hostway.de/
> 9   12.90   http://www.netzone.ch/
> 10  12.95   http://www.novatrend.ch/de/
> 11  13.50   http://www.1api.net/
> 12  13.80   http://www.bar.ch/
> 13  13.90   http://www.firestorm.ch/
> 14  14.00   https://www.iway.ch/
> 15  14.16   http://www.123domain.eu/
> 16  14.42   https://www.namebay.com/
> 17  14.50   http://www.green.ch/de-ch/home.aspx
> 18  14.50   http://www.netim.com/domain/
> 19  14.90   https://www.amenic.ch/de/
> 20  14.90   https://www.cyon.ch/domains/ch-transfer
> 21  14.90   http://www.easyname.com/en
> 22  14.90   http://www.webland.ch/
> 23  15.00   https://www.hostfactory.ch/
> 24  15.00   http://www.hostpoint.ch/
> 25  15.00   http://www.vtx.ch/
> 26  15.50   http://www.domainpartner.ch/
> 27  15.50   http://www.mhs.ch/domains
> 28  15.50   http://www.switchplus.ch/?lang=de
> 29  15.90   https://www.hosteurope.ch/
> 30  16.12   http://www.gandi.net/
> 31  16.71   http://www.inwx.de/
> 32  18.03   http://www.1domain.at/
> 33  18.36   https://www.101domain.com/
> 34  18.41   http://www.marcaria.com/
> 35  19.00   https://www.openprovider.co.uk
> 36  19.71   http://www.domaindiscount24.com/de/ch-domain
> 37  20.05   https://www.checkdomain.de/
> 38  33.66   https://www.eurodns.com/
> 39  36.06   http://www.info.at/
> 40  58.90   http://www.1und1.de/
> 41  59.50   http://www.register.eu/
> 42  70.92   http://www.domainname.at/
> 43  101.75  http://www.instra.com/
> 44  119.00  https://www.united-domains.de/
>
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Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2014-11-25 Diskussionsfäden Olivier Mueller

Thanks for your answer Jeroen  (and Silvan).

On 11/25/2014 03:41 PM, Jeroen Massar wrote:
it is really funny to hear/see these indeed. Even Switch did it in a 
way by sending through switchplus notifies about switchie.ch which 
then states that one does not need to move at all... right ;) 
Yep :)  This (and the whole www.switch.ch -> switchplus.ch link) is why 
I will not recommenend switchplus.ch in any case...



- it should be a registrar onl

But if you are afraid of that, why don't you become a registrar
yourself? Or at least a reseller?
There are already enough registrars for our little country :)   And the 
condition is : "Billing contact for at least 1000 domain names.", which 
is not the case.   But reseller may be a good option, yes.



Your long list does not include Joker.com who are effectively based in
Zug and do a lot of domains. Oh I don't think they do any hosting,
though they do redirect stuff. And you can be a reseller for your own
customers.
Noted, merci !  Strange that they are not listed under 
https://www.nic.ch/reg/cm/wcm-page/partnerlist/partnerlist.jsp, so it 
may be a reseller itself ?



- customer billed directly

 From you or the remote party?
Remote party (like it is the case now with nic.ch).  But in case of a 
reseller setup, this may be integrated to our current system.


Thanks again for your answer an to be continued !
Olivier



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Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2014-11-25 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2014-11-25 15:08, Olivier Mueller wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> As you most probably all know, .ch domains which are still registered at
> nic.ch have to be moved to another registrar by autumn 2016
> (https://www.nic.ch/reg/cm/wcm-page/misc/aufgabentrennung.html).
> 
> But thanks to some recent marketing campaigns (like "Per 31. Dezember
> 2014 braucht Ihre .ch-Domain ein neues Zuhause!"),

it is really funny to hear/see these indeed. Even Switch did it in a way
by sending through switchplus notifies about switchie.ch which then
states that one does not need to move at all... right ;)

> - it should be a registrar only company, if possible (to prevent
>   departure of customers to other hosting companies)

That is a rare thing.

But if you are afraid of that, why don't you become a registrar
yourself? Or at least a reseller?

Your long list does not include Joker.com who are effectively based in
Zug and do a lot of domains. Oh I don't think they do any hosting,
though they do redirect stuff. And you can be a reseller for your own
customers.

> - customer billed directly

>From you or the remote party?

> - DNSSEC / IPV6 capable

For DNSSEC your should specify that they have proper APIs in place for
updating keying material. And if you do that you cut down the list to a
very short few.



As last week Craigslist got stolen through a registrar hack, one now has
to wonder how liable .ch will become for that too...

At least whois does not show which registrar one is using hence they'll
have to hack a weak one which does allow the domain to be transfered for
them to get anywhere.

I still don't see why this registrar/registry split was needed, except
if it is all again about this Meja song.

Greets,
 Jeroen



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Re: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2014-11-25 Diskussionsfäden Silvan M . Gebhardt / Силван Гебхардт
Hi Oliver, 

I am using amenic.ch -  

Why? Its basically the same guys as Novatrend*, but since you asked fore a 
"registrar only" that's what they did to allow their customer to prevent 
customer drain ;)

I know them personally, IPV6 is possible, I think DNSSEC is currently under 
work (I also asked for that :D )



Silvan


* Disclaimer: good friends, I help run their network, so there is a clear 
affiliation there.


- Ursprüngliche Mail -
Von: "Olivier Mueller" 
An: swi...@swinog.ch
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. November 2014 15:08:00
Betreff: [swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

Hello,

As you most probably all know, .ch domains which are still registered at 
nic.ch have to be moved to another registrar by autumn 2016 
(https://www.nic.ch/reg/cm/wcm-page/misc/aufgabentrennung.html).

But thanks to some recent marketing campaigns (like "Per 31. Dezember 
2014 braucht Ihre .ch-Domain ein neues Zuhause!"), ads and newspaper 
articles, some customers are already panicking, so I am also looking for 
a new home for a few hundreds of self-hosted domains.


Requirements:
- it should be a registrar only company, if possible (to prevent
   departure of customers to other hosting companies)
- customer billed directly
- DNSSEC / IPV6 capable
- no aggressive ads on checkout (add antivirus, add top listing, add
   hosting, etc.)


At the moment, my first choice would be gandi.net, even if they are a 
little bit more expensive than the others and they are also selling some 
kind of hosting, because it "just works", and I like their "no bullshit" 
promise :)

But maybe there would be a more suitable alternative, so my question to 
you if you are in a similar situation : which is your new .ch-registrar 
and why ?

Thanks & kind regards,
Olivier



PS: just in case, here is the current list of .ch-Registrars according 
to the official listing @ Switch, sorted by yearly-cost (no warranty of 
correctness). 26 companies out of total 70 are not listed (no visible 
public pricing, reseller-only, etc.) :

 CHF URL
1   8.90http://www.infomaniak.com/en
2   9.90https://www1.q-x.ch/
3   9.95http://www.greenmark-it.de/
4   10.70   https://www.hosttech.ch/
5   10.75   https://www.metanet.ch/
6   10.81   http://www.ovh.com/fr/index.xml
7   11.90   http://www.kreativmedia.ch/de/
8   11.96   http://www.hostway.de/
9   12.90   http://www.netzone.ch/
10  12.95   http://www.novatrend.ch/de/
11  13.50   http://www.1api.net/
12  13.80   http://www.bar.ch/
13  13.90   http://www.firestorm.ch/
14  14.00   https://www.iway.ch/
15  14.16   http://www.123domain.eu/
16  14.42   https://www.namebay.com/
17  14.50   http://www.green.ch/de-ch/home.aspx
18  14.50   http://www.netim.com/domain/
19  14.90   https://www.amenic.ch/de/
20  14.90   https://www.cyon.ch/domains/ch-transfer
21  14.90   http://www.easyname.com/en
22  14.90   http://www.webland.ch/
23  15.00   https://www.hostfactory.ch/
24  15.00   http://www.hostpoint.ch/
25  15.00   http://www.vtx.ch/
26  15.50   http://www.domainpartner.ch/
27  15.50   http://www.mhs.ch/domains
28  15.50   http://www.switchplus.ch/?lang=de
29  15.90   https://www.hosteurope.ch/
30  16.12   http://www.gandi.net/
31  16.71   http://www.inwx.de/
32  18.03   http://www.1domain.at/
33  18.36   https://www.101domain.com/
34  18.41   http://www.marcaria.com/
35  19.00   https://www.openprovider.co.uk
36  19.71   http://www.domaindiscount24.com/de/ch-domain
37  20.05   https://www.checkdomain.de/
38  33.66   https://www.eurodns.com/
39  36.06   http://www.info.at/
40  58.90   http://www.1und1.de/
41  59.50   http://www.register.eu/
42  70.92   http://www.domainname.at/
43  101.75  http://www.instra.com/
44  119.00  https://www.united-domains.de/



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[swinog] .ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?

2014-11-25 Diskussionsfäden Olivier Mueller

Hello,

As you most probably all know, .ch domains which are still registered at 
nic.ch have to be moved to another registrar by autumn 2016 
(https://www.nic.ch/reg/cm/wcm-page/misc/aufgabentrennung.html).


But thanks to some recent marketing campaigns (like "Per 31. Dezember 
2014 braucht Ihre .ch-Domain ein neues Zuhause!"), ads and newspaper 
articles, some customers are already panicking, so I am also looking for 
a new home for a few hundreds of self-hosted domains.



Requirements:
- it should be a registrar only company, if possible (to prevent
  departure of customers to other hosting companies)
- customer billed directly
- DNSSEC / IPV6 capable
- no aggressive ads on checkout (add antivirus, add top listing, add
  hosting, etc.)


At the moment, my first choice would be gandi.net, even if they are a 
little bit more expensive than the others and they are also selling some 
kind of hosting, because it "just works", and I like their "no bullshit" 
promise :)


But maybe there would be a more suitable alternative, so my question to 
you if you are in a similar situation : which is your new .ch-registrar 
and why ?


Thanks & kind regards,
Olivier



PS: just in case, here is the current list of .ch-Registrars according 
to the official listing @ Switch, sorted by yearly-cost (no warranty of 
correctness). 26 companies out of total 70 are not listed (no visible 
public pricing, reseller-only, etc.) :


CHF URL
1   8.90http://www.infomaniak.com/en
2   9.90https://www1.q-x.ch/
3   9.95http://www.greenmark-it.de/
4   10.70   https://www.hosttech.ch/
5   10.75   https://www.metanet.ch/
6   10.81   http://www.ovh.com/fr/index.xml
7   11.90   http://www.kreativmedia.ch/de/
8   11.96   http://www.hostway.de/
9   12.90   http://www.netzone.ch/
10  12.95   http://www.novatrend.ch/de/
11  13.50   http://www.1api.net/
12  13.80   http://www.bar.ch/
13  13.90   http://www.firestorm.ch/
14  14.00   https://www.iway.ch/
15  14.16   http://www.123domain.eu/
16  14.42   https://www.namebay.com/
17  14.50   http://www.green.ch/de-ch/home.aspx
18  14.50   http://www.netim.com/domain/
19  14.90   https://www.amenic.ch/de/
20  14.90   https://www.cyon.ch/domains/ch-transfer
21  14.90   http://www.easyname.com/en
22  14.90   http://www.webland.ch/
23  15.00   https://www.hostfactory.ch/
24  15.00   http://www.hostpoint.ch/
25  15.00   http://www.vtx.ch/
26  15.50   http://www.domainpartner.ch/
27  15.50   http://www.mhs.ch/domains
28  15.50   http://www.switchplus.ch/?lang=de
29  15.90   https://www.hosteurope.ch/
30  16.12   http://www.gandi.net/
31  16.71   http://www.inwx.de/
32  18.03   http://www.1domain.at/
33  18.36   https://www.101domain.com/
34  18.41   http://www.marcaria.com/
35  19.00   https://www.openprovider.co.uk
36  19.71   http://www.domaindiscount24.com/de/ch-domain
37  20.05   https://www.checkdomain.de/
38  33.66   https://www.eurodns.com/
39  36.06   http://www.info.at/
40  58.90   http://www.1und1.de/
41  59.50   http://www.register.eu/
42  70.92   http://www.domainname.at/
43  101.75  http://www.instra.com/
44  119.00  https://www.united-domains.de/



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