Re: [Tagging] Parking Fees

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

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> On 24. Mar 2018, at 13:19, Philip Barnes  wrote:
> 
> I would avoid mapping the actual fee as that is very volatile.


as a data consumer you can always decide to treat any fee as “yes” or 
potentially outdated (and you’ll loose nothing compared to “yes”), but you’ll 
have a hard time guessing an actual fee from “yes”.


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Re: [Tagging] Parking Fees

[Philip Barnes]

On Sat, 2018-03-24 at 06:28 +, Jonathan wrote:
> Sorry I phrased my question poorly. Does anyone have an example on
> OSM of parking tagged with parking fees that vary over time? So I can
> see the tags used. 
I think the tag you are looking for is fee:conditional, lots of usage
in Germany but I cannot find that actual usage.
Locally we can park for 15 minutes without getting a ticket so
something I too would like to map.
I would avoid mapping the actual fee as that is very volatile.
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Re: [Tagging] Parking Fees

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Not an expert, but I think you'll need a combination of tags:

 

- fee or fee:conditional to express fixed time intervals [1] [2]

 

- maxstay to express the maximum allowed stay within the fee period [3]

 

- charge to express the fee amount [4]

 

Querying with overpass-turbo for nodes combining these tags with query < 
node["charge"]["fee"]["maxstay"] > [5], I found an example. [6]

 

[1]   
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:fee

[2]   
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/fee%3Aconditional#values

[3]   
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxstay

[4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:charge

[5] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/xhW

[6] http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/250252788

 

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Re: [Tagging] wetap specific tags

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

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> On 24. Mar 2018, at 08:42, Simon Poole  wrote:
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> not quite sure why everybody time is being wasted discussing 4 year old edits.


the app is still available and I didn’t initially note that the edits were 
apparently all older. Also there is still a lot of wetap namedropping in the 
wiki, e.g. here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dwater
as if wetap:status was an established tag. If those tags are not welcome we 
should organize some clean up of wiki and possibly db.

I’ll propose a mechanical edit to remove all wetap:status=working and transform 
wetap:photo to “image” and if objects are changed which contain source=wetap 
I’d also remove it. 

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Re: [Tagging] wetap specific tags

[Simon Poole]

Am 23.03.2018 um 14:37 schrieb Volker Schmidt:
> No, obviously, not in the sense that we do that systematically, but
> the problem exists in real terms. Drinking water is in many places of
> the world one of hose pieces of information that would be nice to be
> able to tag: have been here today, it's still working. Petrol stations
> is another. Or in case of areas with low population density the fact
> that a food supply point is still operational can be of great interest
> (When I rode on bicycle the old Route 66 in 2016 one of the essential
> tasks of our group leader was to keep a checklist of food stores,
> water points, and accommodation, in order to keep the ACA route
> description up-to-date)
See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:check_date

Simon

PS: not quite sure why everybody time is being wasted discussing 4 year
old edits.

>
> On 23 March 2018 at 14:19, Martin Koppenhoefer  > wrote:
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> 2018-03-23 14:09 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt  >:
>
> And this raises the obvious question: Do we have any way of
> tagging "tag value verified by survey today" ? This would be
> helpful in many situations. I am thinking about the repeated
> discussions about explicily tagging default values in order to
> underline that the value has been checked.
>
>
>
>
> Volker, do I understand you correctly that you propose to add a
> specific tag for every other tag which says when it was last
> checked? Like amenity=foo, amenity:last_survey=1985-04-01 ? So we
> must not add default tags because we can have a tag
> lanes:last_checked=2018-03-23 which implies that the number of
> lanes is default and must not be tagged explicitly?
> Sounds like a method to increase history bloat. I could check
> every minute that my house is still there, for example, and upload
> the result. ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
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