Re: [Tails-dev] Monero GUI/�CLI Debian Package On Tails
Projects · Whonix / monero-gui | | | | || | | | | | Projects · Whonix / monero-gui Monero GUI and CLI Debian Package. Can be installed using APT. Upstream / origin is https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui. | | | | On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 10:09 PM, sajolida wrote: Mr. Lee Chiffre: >> If we can push the Monero GUI and the Monero CLI onto the official Tails >> OS, it would go a very long way in terms of financial privacy on the Tails >> OS. > > I think it is a great idea to include Monero onto Tails. Monero is a very > mainstream coin as an alternative to Bitcoin. I agree that, if Tails was to include software for another cryptocurrency, it should be Monero. We have a FAQ about adding more software to Tails: https://tails.boum.org/support/faq#new_software If a software is not included in Tails, but is included in Debian, you can use the Additional Software feature of the Persistent Storage to install it automatically every time you start Tails. I see that the monero CLI and server is already in Debian but that the shape of the package is not super great: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/monero I can't find any GUI for it in Debian. If the Monero project upstream is serious about Linux adoption, they should be the ones working on having it in Debian. I don't think that Tails should do this work. -- sajolida Tails — https://tails.boum.org/ UX · Fundraising · Technical Writing ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Monero GUI/�CLI Debian Package On Tails
Mr. Lee Chiffre: >> If we can push the Monero GUI and the Monero CLI onto the official Tails >> OS, it would go a very long way in terms of financial privacy on the Tails >> OS. > > I think it is a great idea to include Monero onto Tails. Monero is a very > mainstream coin as an alternative to Bitcoin. I agree that, if Tails was to include software for another cryptocurrency, it should be Monero. We have a FAQ about adding more software to Tails: https://tails.boum.org/support/faq#new_software If a software is not included in Tails, but is included in Debian, you can use the Additional Software feature of the Persistent Storage to install it automatically every time you start Tails. I see that the monero CLI and server is already in Debian but that the shape of the package is not super great: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/monero I can't find any GUI for it in Debian. If the Monero project upstream is serious about Linux adoption, they should be the ones working on having it in Debian. I don't think that Tails should do this work. -- sajolida Tails — https://tails.boum.org/ UX · Fundraising · Technical Writing ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Monero GUI/�CLI Debian Package On Tails
> If we can push the Monero GUI and the Monero CLI onto the official Tails > OS, it would go a very long way in terms of financial privacy on the Tails > OS. I think it is a great idea to include Monero onto Tails. Monero is a very mainstream coin as an alternative to Bitcoin. > Right now, the Tails platform is using Electrum as it's main crypto > currency Wallet, which uses Bitcoin. Electrum is a privacy nightmare unless you run your own electrum server. Which most people do not do. Even if electrum is kept for compatibility reasons I think we should at least include a more privacy focused bitcoin wallet like Wasabi. Wasabi wallet can be built reproducible. > I'm sure we can all agree that Bitcoin is not at all private, as the > entire Blockchain is accessible to anyone with cheap Blockchain Analysis > Tools and Software. > Eventually, Debian and the Tails OS devs should phase in a more privacy > oriented coin. Right now Monero is better for privacy and by default. But I think we should still keep Bitcoin support on Tails because Bitcoin is way more mainstream than Monero and there is still a need to be able to use Bitcoin. My suggestion is include Monero cli because monero cli can be built reproducible. And monero cli client is better. But if Monero gui can be built reproducible in tails then to include that as a user easy to use option for the less tech savy. And to include Wasabi wallet for bitcoin. Bitcoin lightning network support in tails would be nice also. I am not sure what wallet would be best for that. I know the latest version of electrum in beta now has support for lightning. I am hoping Wasabi Wallet eventually includes lightning network support. If electrum wallet is kept in tails what about idea to include electrum personal server software with tails to promote more privacy? Electrum is a great wallet but is horrible with privacy if you do not use your own server or electrum personal server. -- lee.chif...@secmail.pro PGP 97F0C3AE985A191DA0556BCAA82529E2025BDE35 ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Monero GUI/ CLI Debian Package On Tails
Obviously, the team over at TAILS would also thoroughly comb through the code and the Debian package to make sure it's safe for their operating system. Essentially, that would be four major Internet Privacy Devs looking over this project to make sure it launches on Tails OS system safely. The four teams over at Whonix, Monero, Debian and Tails are all going to need to work together on this one. This is a major project. Monero launch on Tails OS would be an epic game-changer! I promise. On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 4:42 PM, K wrote: We need to get this on TAILS as soon as possible. This is exactly what the Tails OS needs right now. Whonix needs to allow The Monero Project to co-sign this Debian package and also the devs on both sides can collaborate on how to push this into the Tails OS list of pre-installed programs. If we have both Whonix devs and Monero devs overseeing the code of this package and both eyes confirm it's secure, there's no reason this can't be added to the Tails operating system. If Monero and Whonix work together with Debian, I feel like the next logical step would be for the TAILS devs to add this to the next major update. If we can push the Monero GUI and the Monero CLI onto the official Tails OS, it would go a very long way in terms of financial privacy on the Tails OS. Right now, the Tails platform is using Electrum as it's main crypto currency Wallet, which uses Bitcoin. I'm sure we can all agree that Bitcoin is not at all private, as the entire Blockchain is accessible to anyone with cheap Blockchain Analysis Tools and Software. Eventually, Debian and the Tails OS devs should phase in a more privacy oriented coin. Monero would be the best bet, in terms of consumer privacy and financial freedom. Let's get this done as soon as possible. Thank you all for your time! ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Monero GUI/ CLI Debian Package On Tails
This would be a big win for privacy and privacy advocates all agree on Monero being the most private crypto currency there is. Along with Tails being a very secure operating system and with the Debian team also looking at the code to make sure everything is transparent, this just makes sense at this point in 2020. On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 4:42 PM, K wrote: We need to get this on TAILS as soon as possible. This is exactly what the Tails OS needs right now. Whonix needs to allow The Monero Project to co-sign this Debian package and also the devs on both sides can collaborate on how to push this into the Tails OS list of pre-installed programs. If we have both Whonix devs and Monero devs overseeing the code of this package and both eyes confirm it's secure, there's no reason this can't be added to the Tails operating system. If Monero and Whonix work together with Debian, I feel like the next logical step would be for the TAILS devs to add this to the next major update. If we can push the Monero GUI and the Monero CLI onto the official Tails OS, it would go a very long way in terms of financial privacy on the Tails OS. Right now, the Tails platform is using Electrum as it's main crypto currency Wallet, which uses Bitcoin. I'm sure we can all agree that Bitcoin is not at all private, as the entire Blockchain is accessible to anyone with cheap Blockchain Analysis Tools and Software. Eventually, Debian and the Tails OS devs should phase in a more privacy oriented coin. Monero would be the best bet, in terms of consumer privacy and financial freedom. Let's get this done as soon as possible. Thank you all for your time! ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://www.autistici.org/mailman/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.