Re: [OSM-talk] SotM11 will be held in Denver.

2010-11-06 Thread Russ Nelson
Nic Roets writes:
 > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Dave F.  wrote:
 > > What's an 'ambassador' program?
 > 
 > http://cloudmade.com/careers/community-ambassador

Haha! Just because the job position is  described there doesn't mean
that there are any positions to be filled.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Google fumbles again in latin america

2010-11-06 Thread Russ Nelson
Apollinaris Schoell writes:
 > I consider it improving osm by a human mapper according the spirit
 > of the project instead a container full of imports with not much
 > value. If a human surveys on ground or based on personal knowledge
 > and image tracing it has 100 times more value than any imported
 > data

I have some sympathy for your position, but I was told explicitly by
the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation that their
shapefile is to be considered primary over the signs in the field.
Thus, mapping NYS DEC Forest Lands in the field is 0 times more value
than their authoritative shapefile, which I've imported.

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Re: [OSM-talk] coastline in mapnik

2010-11-06 Thread Vladimir Vyskocil
I checked the shoreline last modification date with : wget --server-response 
--spider http://tile.openstreetmap.org/shoreline_300.tar.bz2
and the answer show :

 Last-Modified: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:44:09 GMT 

It's about 1 month and half ago !! Is this process broken ?

Vlad.

On 5 nov. 2010, at 19:40, Richard Weait wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Ulf Mehlig  wrote:
>> I'm waiting for my last week's coastline changes to become visible on
>> the main site's mapnik layer:
>> 
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-0.7596&lon=-47.049&zoom=12&layers=M
>> 
>> I tried to avoid caching problems, and I triggered re-rendering of the
>> affected tiles by tagging them as dirty ... Osmarender shows the
>> coastline correctly.
>> 
>> Does anybody know how to proceed?
> 
> Hi Ulf,
> 
> This question is asked fairly often and is very ably answered on the
> help site.
> 
> In short, coastline rendering is a relatively "expensive" process
> which is run only a few times per month.  Details here:
> 
> http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/276/why-do-the-changes-i-have-made-to-coastline-not-appear-on-the-map
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Re: [OSM-talk] Now: Wikiteam

2010-11-06 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:56:43 +0100
Matthias Meißer  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> some might have read my recent post on the wiki edits at
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/!i!/diary/12226
> 
> So I'd like to announce the Wiki team to you as a point where you can 
> request help on edits. For people already involved in larger wiki 
> editing this might be a good place to get feedback and coordinate
> with others to get bigger jobs done.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki
> 
> So Iet's try to get our documentation better and keep them up to
> date :-)
> 
> regards
> Matthias
> 

I find random people adding things like "Stub page" quite offensive.
Often there is nothing more to say, and a link is provided for those
who wish to research the topic.
Is the wiki intended to become a replacement on line geographic
encyclopedia?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Boundaries in Brazil

2010-11-06 Thread Ulf Mehlig
Hello Maarten,

at least in part the double borders are due to double import from IBGE
(Brazilian Institute for Geography and Statistics) public domain data. I
don't know details about the gml2osm import, but for Pará state, for
example, imports where done independently by Claudomiro Nascimento
Junior and me. I tried to fix a few things manually but (obviously) did
not finish. A bot solution might be interesting, if manual changes to
the border would be preserved. I'll forward this message to the
Brazilian talk list.

Thanks alot!
Ulf

em português:

(Maarten Dean perguntou sobre fronteiras duplas no Brazil com
fonte "IBGE", em parte com rótulo "criado por gml2osm". Esta
última parece mais detalhada, mas não é utilizada em relações.
Ele sugere solucionar o problema através de um programa que
corrige os dados automaticamente (bot).)

Pelo menos em parte as fronteiras duplas tem origem na importação dupla
de dados em domínio público do IBGE. Não sei detalhes sobre a importação
por gml2osm, mas pelo menos no estado do Pará, dados foram importados
independentemente por Claudomiro e por mim. Tentei concertar umas coisas
manualmente, mas obviamente não terminei. Uma solução automática poderia
ser interessante, caso preservasse mudanças feitas manualmente. Estou
mandando este email à lista brasileira do OSM.

On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 16:45 +0100, Maarten Deen wrote:
> I noticed that Brazil has a lot of double boundaries. You can see them on the 
> map, for instance the north-east point of Brazil (but it's everywhere).
> 
> Looking at the data, both boundaries are source=IBGE, but there is an older, 
> mostly more detailed border with created_by=gml2osm which is not used in 
> relations and a newer, less detailed one that is used in relations.
> 
> I don't know what happened here, but is there something which can be done by 
> a 
> bot here, or is the older one to be deleted or should that one be used to 
> make 
> the border relations?
> 
> Maarten
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[OSM-talk] Boundaries in Brazil

2010-11-06 Thread Maarten Deen
I noticed that Brazil has a lot of double boundaries. You can see them on the 
map, for instance the north-east point of Brazil (but it's everywhere).


Looking at the data, both boundaries are source=IBGE, but there is an older, 
mostly more detailed border with created_by=gml2osm which is not used in 
relations and a newer, less detailed one that is used in relations.


I don't know what happened here, but is there something which can be done by a 
bot here, or is the older one to be deleted or should that one be used to make 
the border relations?


Maarten

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Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted: a live-edit viewing thingalabong

2010-11-06 Thread Bernhard Zwischenbrugger

Hi

I don't know exactly what you are looking for, but do you know

http://khtml.org -> Ticker

and

http://www.khtml.org/osm/v0.83/examples/changes.html


Bernhard

On 2010-11-05 20:19, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:

I have a logfile of lat/lon coordinates alll over the world that I
want to tail, feed to a webservice and view in a browser.

I thought I could use some of the existing live-edit thingy. So far
I've found http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/ (aimed at
local) and 
http://searchengineland.com/new-real-time-google-maps-edits-in-new-edits-viewer-13220
which is down at the moment.

Is there something existing out there that I can steal and hook up to
some trivial AJAX service that'll zoom around the map as new edits
come in for some "whoo" factor?

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[OSM-talk] Now: Wikiteam

2010-11-06 Thread Matthias Meißer

Hi,

some might have read my recent post on the wiki edits at
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/!i!/diary/12226

So I'd like to announce the Wiki team to you as a point where you can 
request help on edits. For people already involved in larger wiki 
editing this might be a good place to get feedback and coordinate with 
others to get bigger jobs done.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki

So Iet's try to get our documentation better and keep them up to date :-)

regards
Matthias

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Re: [OSM-talk] Blog: thoughts on OSM

2010-11-06 Thread Mike Dupont
link is here:
http://blog.nestoria.co.uk/nestoria-interview-steve-chilton-openstreetma

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Steve Chilton wrote:

> Ed Freyfogle on Nestoria blog




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[OSM-talk] Blog: thoughts on OSM

2010-11-06 Thread Steve Chilton
Thoughts on OSM in interview with Ed Freyfogle on Nestoria blog

Cheers
STEVE

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