Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?

[Norbert Wenzel]

On 01/06/2012 04:52 AM, Michael Kugelmann wrote:

Does anybody have English flyers or something like that to hand over to
interested persons?


Sorry, no international flyers from my side. But if you (or the 
organizers of the table. Gael?) need a banner for the table decoration I 
could bring the big one we had at Sotm-EU last summer (picture [0]).


Norbert

[0] http://www.flickr.com/photos/sotmeu/5960372816

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Re: [OSM-talk] The aim of OpenStreetView

[Jo]

I upload all the photos I took during my mapping journeys. I'm not a
photographer and I'm sure a photographer would abhorr those pictures.
Sometimes taken from a riding bicycle or a moving horse... They are meant
to be informative, that's all.

Openstreetview.org will never be a direct competitor to GSV, as we simply
don't have the technology nor the manpower nor the server space to make and
store panoramic photos every 15m.

Polyglot

2012/1/6 LM_1 

> Hi,
> What is the aim of OpenStreetView - Is it a potential Google
> StreetView counterpart intended for viewing by general public (And
> therefore all photos must be nice, high technical quality, blue sky,
> around noon) ORIs it a help tool for OSM mappers (and therefore it is
> important what can be used as mapping support and the photos can be
> less nice, bad weather, dark - as long as they are informative)?
> Thanks for answers
> Lukas (LM_1)
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Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

[Frans Thamura]

>
> Usage:
> z0 to z15: 252GB  (4x 300GB 10kRPM - RAID10 - IO Utilization: 53%)
> z16 to z18: 1020GB (2x 600GB 10kRPM - RAID0 - IO Utilization: 58%)


we use the z18 here.. F

how to know the utilization 58%, so the space only need 1.4 TB
F

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Re: [OSM-talk] The aim of OpenStreetView

[andrzej zaborowski]

On 6 January 2012 12:04, LM_1  wrote:
> Hi,
> What is the aim of OpenStreetView - Is it a potential Google
> StreetView counterpart intended for viewing by general public (And
> therefore all photos must be nice, high technical quality, blue sky,
> around noon) ORIs it a help tool for OSM mappers (and therefore it is
> important what can be used as mapping support and the photos can be
> less nice, bad weather, dark - as long as they are informative)?

It's something in between I think.  In terms of Google maps it would
be the counterpart of panoramio maybe?  See
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetView

There's another project called OpenStreetPhoto with the aim you
mentioned second.

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Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

[Yves]

And the db is entirely on the ssd ?
Yves
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Envoyé de mon téléphone Android avec K-9 Mail. Excusez la brièveté.


Grant Slater  a écrit :

On 6 January 2012 11:11, Ed Loach  wrote:
> Frans wrote:
>
>> sound my server will in problem.
>
> I'm curious how fast you are rendering tiles anyway? If there are
> 91,625,968,981 then how out of date might the first one be by the
> time you render the last.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_Disk_Usage suggests that
> about 1268TB is currently used for tiles of 2x 600GB 10kRPM (RAID0)
> (if the link from that last page to yevaud as tile server is
> up-to-date - though by my reckoning that would mean the drives are
> full).

Fixed the details on yevaud.

Usage:
z0 to z15: 252GB (4x 300GB 10kRPM - RAID10 - IO Utilization: 53%)
z16 to z18: 1020GB (2x 600GB 10kRPM - RAID0 - IO Utilization: 58%)

Regards
Grant

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Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

[Grant Slater]

On 6 January 2012 11:11, Ed Loach  wrote:
> Frans wrote:
>
>> sound my server will in problem.
>
> I'm curious how fast you are rendering tiles anyway? If there are
> 91,625,968,981 then how out of date might the first one be by the
> time you render the last.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_Disk_Usage suggests that
> about 1268TB is currently used for tiles of 2x 600GB 10kRPM (RAID0)
> (if the link from that last page to yevaud as tile server is
> up-to-date - though by my reckoning that would mean the drives are
> full).

Fixed the details on yevaud.

Usage:
z0 to z15: 252GB  (4x 300GB 10kRPM - RAID10 - IO Utilization: 53%)
z16 to z18: 1020GB (2x 600GB 10kRPM - RAID0 - IO Utilization: 58%)

Regards
 Grant

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Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

[Ed Loach]

Frans wrote:

> sound my server will in problem.

I'm curious how fast you are rendering tiles anyway? If there are
91,625,968,981 then how out of date might the first one be by the
time you render the last.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_Disk_Usage suggests that
about 1268TB is currently used for tiles of 2x 600GB 10kRPM (RAID0)
(if the link from that last page to yevaud as tile server is
up-to-date - though by my reckoning that would mean the drives are
full).

Ed


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[OSM-talk] The aim of OpenStreetView

[LM_1]

Hi,
What is the aim of OpenStreetView - Is it a potential Google
StreetView counterpart intended for viewing by general public (And
therefore all photos must be nice, high technical quality, blue sky,
around noon) ORIs it a help tool for OSM mappers (and therefore it is
important what can be used as mapping support and the photos can be
less nice, bad weather, dark - as long as they are informative)?
Thanks for answers
Lukas (LM_1)

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Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

[Frans Thamura]

wow, my space only 1TB

what happen if anyone click the server ;) out of space... :)

how big is openstreetmap harddisk anyway :)

sound my server will in problem.



On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Maarten Deen  wrote:
> On 2012-01-06 11:28, Frans Thamura wrote:
>>
>> hi all
>>
>> anyone have try to make all tiles render, without we have to click the
>> mapnik/map
>>
>> we have full total planet for global, and wanna to make the tile
>> render, so everyone that come to new map, (never clicked before), can
>> see the map, without have to reset
>>
>> can help?
>>
>> and what will the total space used for this
>
>
> [1] states that the average tile size of all tiles is 633 bytes and the
> total number of tiles is 91,625,968,981. That comes to a grand total of 53
> TB of diskspace. Not sure if this is practical.
> To limit the diskusage you can symlink all ocean tiles. Given that about 30%
> of the earth is not covered by water you would still need about 16TB to keep
> all tiles.
>
> The same pages says that on z18 only 0.9% of all tiles have ever been
> viewed. You may want to decided to generate z17 and z18 only in specific
> places, that will reduce diskspace by 75% also.
>
> [1] 
>
> Maarten
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Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

[Maarten Deen]

On 2012-01-06 11:49, Maarten Deen wrote:


The same pages says that on z18 only 0.9% of all tiles have ever been
viewed. You may want to decided to generate z17 and z18 only in
specific places, that will reduce diskspace by 75% also.


95% that is!

Maarten

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Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

[Maarten Deen]

On 2012-01-06 11:28, Frans Thamura wrote:

hi all

anyone have try to make all tiles render, without we have to click 
the

mapnik/map

we have full total planet for global, and wanna to make the tile
render, so everyone that come to new map, (never clicked before), can
see the map, without have to reset

can help?

and what will the total space used for this


[1] states that the average tile size of all tiles is 633 bytes and the 
total number of tiles is 91,625,968,981. That comes to a grand total of 
53 TB of diskspace. Not sure if this is practical.
To limit the diskusage you can symlink all ocean tiles. Given that 
about 30% of the earth is not covered by water you would still need 
about 16TB to keep all tiles.


The same pages says that on z18 only 0.9% of all tiles have ever been 
viewed. You may want to decided to generate z17 and z18 only in specific 
places, that will reduce diskspace by 75% also.


[1] 

Maarten

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Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

On 01/06/12 11:28, Frans Thamura wrote:

and what will the total space used for this


http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/9766/how-big-is-your-map-size-for-the-entire-world

http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/6062/how-large-in-disk-size-is-a-current-complete-tile-set

Bye
Frederik

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[OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

[Frans Thamura]

hi all

anyone have try to make all tiles render, without we have to click the
mapnik/map

we have full total planet for global, and wanna to make the tile
render, so everyone that come to new map, (never clicked before), can
see the map, without have to reset

can help?

and what will the total space used for this

F

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