[OSM-talk] handheld gps unit
For what's worth: I have been using for the last couple of months a new-series etrex (etrex 30). This is the first Garmin handheld with a chip also for GLONASS. I have done some precision checks with the device mounted on the bicycle handlebar. Running with GLONASS and WAAS enabled I easily achieved precision ranges of the order of one meter under open sky and with good weather. The checks consisted in cycling along narrow roads and comparing outbound and return track whith high-resolution well-aligned satellite pictures. The precision is good, but my overall judgement of the device is not so clear. The user interface is not very intuitive, to say the least, the manual (as usual with Garmin) is lousy. And the new etrex is completely different from the classical etrex (in my case Legend HCx), in particular they left out the beautiful, but little-known capability of the old etrex to navigate downloaded tracks with the fantastic TrackBack feature, with the big red arrow and the acoustic signals when approaching a turn in the track. That's all gone. I have written up quite a lot about using both devices, but it's all in Italian, I'm afraid. Volker (Padova, Italy) On 21 April 2012 13:00, wrote: > Send talk mailing list submissions to >talk@openstreetmap.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at >talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Transcription and "internationalization" in place names > (Claudius) > 2. Re: handheld gps unit (Claudius) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:51:01 +0200 > From: Claudius > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Transcription and "internationalization" in >place names > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Am 16.04.2012 22:17, Milo? Komar?evi?: > > Hi all, > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Daniel Kastl > wrote: > >> name:ja_rm is probably what will not be rendered usually, but this > would be > >> the name written for example on street signs as name in latin > characters. > >> name:ja_kana is what was mentioned in a previous email, because it helps > >> Japanese people to know the reading of a name. It's also useful for > >> geocoding. > >> > > > > I would also like to take this opportunity to draw your attention to > > the lack of unification on how 'romanized' language tags are used and > > constructed for languages not usually written in Latin script. > > > > 'ja_rm' and 'zh_pinyin' are some examples > > > > We strongly believe OSM should get behind and use BCP 47 as > > recommended by W3C, Unicode, ECMA, etc.: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IETF_language_tag > > > > and are already committed to retagging all our data in Serbia to 'sr' > > and 'sr-Latn'. > > +1 > > Would be great to get the tagging guidelines accordingly. > > Claudius > > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 14:19:49 +0200 > From: Claudius > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] handheld gps unit > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Do you know how this compares to the newer touch screen Garmin devices > (Dakota, Oregan, Montana)? I know that upon release the GPS performance > (read "Accuracy") of the touch devices was below the Vista HCx. > Wondering if they could fix that via firmware upgrades or even > improvements to the hardware. > > I really liked my Vista HCx, because of the very fast time to fix, the > high accuracy and the fact that it actually had a scrollable map > (something the Geko is lacking). But then the usability with that small > joystick was just... bad when using the map. > > Claudius > > Am 19.04.2012 14:40, Thomas Davie: > > I'm very pleased with my Garmin eTrex Vista HCx. > > > > Bob > > > > if (*ra4 != 0xffc78948) { return false; } > > > > > > On 19 Apr 2012, at 13:20, kenneth gonsalves wrote: > > > >> hi, > >> > >> what are recommendations for a handheld reasonably priced gps unit? > >> -- > >> regards > >> Kenneth Gonsalves > > > > > -- > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > End of talk Digest, Vol 92, Issue 52 > > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New editors
It would be _super_ good if we had some tool that would flag and notify some advanced active mapper in a given area of any changesets that delete more than 2 features. .. I'd be totally up for checking any and all changesets in Haiti that delete _anything_. This is an increasing problem and especially where there's limited number of advanced mappers _actively_ monitoring and fixing an area this issue can become a killer for the map in that area. .. And I would include merges into this deletion category. (The Airport Road of PaP is still a "2km bridge" after a misguided edit w/ a merge perhaps 2wks ago -- haven't had the time to fix that and neither has anyone else, it seems..) Cheers from sunny Hispanola -- the island of one soon sinking capital city (sinking from The Map, that is), -Jaakko Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel -- Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta -Original Message- From: Toby Murray Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:56:08 To: Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] New editors This seems to be a recurring thing. I have personally caught, contacted and reverted 3 people who just wanted a simplified map of an area. I just happened to spot their edits in LiveEditMapViewer. I haven't really been paying as much attention to it lately so I'm sure a number of such edits have slipped through. Somehow the users didn't understand that they were saving their changes to THE database and that it would affect everyone who uses OSM data. I'm not sure how to get the message across any better. Toby On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:21 PM, wrote: > >> >>> But one newbie deleted about 300 streets, seemingly for a >> >>> wedding-related >> >>> event map :-( >> >> >> >> ... >> >> >> >> I couldn't help laughing, that's actually pretty funny. >> >> >> >> Did you contact the user? >> > >> > >> > Yes, I sent a message, but got no reply. Perhaps they were too >> > embarrassed, so the revert will be initiated. It would be funny to get >> > the >> > printed wedding invitation, containing just the remaining major streets! >> >> This kind of wedding map edit actually happened to my country in 2010. :-) >> >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-June/002314.html > > I wonder what the intent of the user was? It appears to me that they were > attempting to create a certain type of map by altering the data. Here on > the list we would argue that the issue the user is tackling is a rendering > issue, not a data issue. > > Is this a clue to a different way of rendering? In the same way that > streetmap and cyclemap have the same data but produce different looking > maps? > > Perhaps a renderer could make a weddingmap :-D > > It could work by having the user center the map on their one point of > interest, and then the rendering process would have high detail around > that center point, but have the detail drop off successively the greater > the distance from the center point. So minor streets around the wedding > venue would be rendered because that is useful for navigation and > parking. But minor streets further away from the venue would not be > rendered, because the intent is to highlight only the chosen point of > interest and major transportation routes to that point. > > nick > > *** > WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally > privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by > copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was > intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one > is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print > or copy this email without appropriate authority. > > If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, > please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of > this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer > system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and > any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not > waived or destroyed by that mistake. > > It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain > and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by > third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with > your computer system). > > Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the > opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, > Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising > the same infrastructure. > *** > > > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk _
Re: [OSM-talk] New editors
On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 17:28 +, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: > It would be _super_ good if we had some tool that would flag and notify some > advanced active mapper in a given area of any changesets that delete more > than 2 features. .. I'd be totally up for checking any and all changesets in > Haiti that delete _anything_. > > This is an increasing problem and especially where there's limited number of > advanced mappers _actively_ > monitoring and fixing an area this issue can become a killer for the map in > that area. > > .. And I would include merges into this deletion category. (The Airport Road > of PaP is still a > "2km bridge" after a misguided edit w/ a merge perhaps 2wks ago -- haven't > had the time to fix > that and neither has anyone else, it seems..) > > Cheers from sunny Hispanola -- the island of one soon sinking capital city > (sinking from The Map, > that is), > -Jaakko Is there an easy means to spot changes in a particular area? I did have an rss feed on from http://osm-changepipe.s3.amazonaws.com but that stopped updating at the beginning of March. The main osm website shows changes in an area, but includes global type edits so sometimes spotting changes that affect the area can be like looking for a needle in a haystack. Phil ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New editors
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 17:28 +, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: >> It would be _super_ good if we had some tool that would flag and notify some >> advanced active mapper in a given area of any changesets that delete more >> than 2 features. .. I'd be totally up for checking any and all changesets in >> Haiti that delete _anything_. >> >> This is an increasing problem and especially where there's limited number of >> advanced mappers _actively_ >> monitoring and fixing an area this issue can become a killer for the map in >> that area. >> >> .. And I would include merges into this deletion category. (The Airport Road >> of PaP is still a >> "2km bridge" after a misguided edit w/ a merge perhaps 2wks ago -- haven't >> had the time to fix >> that and neither has anyone else, it seems..) >> >> Cheers from sunny Hispanola -- the island of one soon sinking capital city >> (sinking from The Map, >> that is), >> -Jaakko > Is there an easy means to spot changes in a particular area? > > I did have an rss feed on from http://osm-changepipe.s3.amazonaws.com > but that stopped updating at the beginning of March. > > The main osm website shows changes in an area, but includes global type > edits so sometimes spotting changes that affect the area can be like > looking for a needle in a haystack. I use OWL: http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/ Unfortunately it is 2 weeks behind. I know there is an effort to get it a better server to run on. It's been talked about for a while. Not sure how close that is to getting done. Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk