Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple errors in the same location

2018-11-16 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 3:13 PM James  wrote:
> could be many things:
> 1. CanVec import without corrections to todays standards
> 2. Old CanVec version1 imports(was pretty bad)
> 3. Someone added data that was already there

It is a CanVec import from 4 years ago:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/23092008

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Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple errors in the same location

2018-11-16 Thread James
could be many things:
1. CanVec import without corrections to todays standards
2. Old CanVec version1 imports(was pretty bad)
3. Someone added data that was already there

On Fri., Nov. 16, 2018, 11:57 a.m. Nelson A. de Oliveira  On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:08 PM SandorS  wrote:
> > A careful analyses shows that there are several serious errors in this
> location. Let us mention some.
>
> What you are seeing is a side effect of badly/blindly importing data
> and possibly without a proper discussion.
>
> OSM already had https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/28420555
> The user who did import the overlapping data should have seen this.
>
> The user needs to be contacted, as it seems that he is still importing
> data.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple errors in the same location

2018-11-16 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:08 PM SandorS  wrote:
> A careful analyses shows that there are several serious errors in this 
> location. Let us mention some.

What you are seeing is a side effect of badly/blindly importing data
and possibly without a proper discussion.

OSM already had https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/28420555
The user who did import the overlapping data should have seen this.

The user needs to be contacted, as it seems that he is still importing data.

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[OSM-talk] Multiple errors in the same location

2018-11-16 Thread SandorS
When multiple errors appear in the same location the question is what to do? 
The simplest option is, nothing. Wait until a mapper is correcting all the 
related errors. 
Most of the detectors, inspectors, renderers, data preparation tools… select 
this option today. Consequently, all publicly available maps repeat the same 
errors what is, of course, wrong. 
Let us take an illustrative example here https://osm.org/go/cCcWZjGW . 
A careful analyses shows that there are several serious errors in this 
location. Let us mention some.
1.There are two radically different partly overlapping lakes in the location.
2.None of the lakes are close to fit into the hole in the forest area.
3.The forest and any of the lakes overlap considerably.
4.The island in one of the lakes is just partly invisible (overwritten by the 
other lake).
5.The obsolete natural=land tag is used for several node objects in the lakes.
6.The place=islet tag is used for several nodes without the name tag and value 
(so, meaningless).
If there were just a few cases like described one could contact the 
corresponding mappers or just make a note description on the location. 
Unfortunately the number of cases like the illustrated is so large that neither 
of the mentioned source data correction models is feasible. Yet, it is worth to 
mention that some data preparation chains perfectly resolves this complex error 
issue in their GIS or map-making systems.
Sandor


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[OSM-talk] OSMF Membership Fee Waivers for Financial Hardship

2018-11-16 Thread Mikel Maron
If the membership fee for OSMF is a financial burden, the OSMF Board will 
review any requests for a fee waiver from potential members. This is a 
temporary measure, while a full process is implemented (if you are interested 
to help, please let us know!) Below are details on the decision, how we'll 
handle applications from yesterday, and how to apply.

To apply:
    email bo...@osmfoundation.org, with your first and last name, country of 
residence, OSM id. Also please state that you are applying for fee waiver 
because of financial hardship, and give a short account of your activities in 
OpenStreetMap.

On the decision:
At the 2014 Annual General Meeting [1], it was decided

>  The membership fee for associate membership, which normally is tied to the 
>regular membership fee, may be waived if paying the fee would constitute an 
>unreasonable burden to the member, either because of financial hardship or 
>because of the lack of a suitable money transfer facility.

Implementation was delegated to the Membership Working Group. Yesterday, they 
announced the full process for waiver because of lack of suitable money 
transfer [2].

At yesterday's Board meeting, we resolved to review fee waiver requests for 
financial hardship. [3]


> The membership fee waiver program has not been implemented yet. However, 
>today (2018-11-15) there was a flurry of emails sent to the board and the 
>Membership Working Group from people asking to join the Foundation and the fee 
>to be waived. The board will review the requests and individually decide on 
>the waiver. If approved, the membership join date will be the date of the 
>approval.


The starting date of membership will be recorded on the day they are processed. 
That means that applicants from yesterday will not be members in time to 
participate in this year's AGM. There was a request to delay the AGM to 
accommodate more sign ups through this process; however the AGM time and date 
had already been announced.

[1] https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Annual_General_Meetings/14[2] 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2018-November/005427.html[3]
 
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board/Minutes/2018-11-15#Voting_on_reviewing_recent_fee_waiver_requests

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