Re: [OSM-talk] Metric / imperial bridge heights

2008-10-11 Thread Philip Homburg
In your letter dated Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:57:18 +0100 you wrote:
In the UK with bridge heights there isn't an exact conversion factor - 
mainly because a signed 11'3 bridge isn't 11'3 high. To get the signed 
height - you subtract 3 inches from the true height then round down to the 
next 3 inches. There will always be between 3 and 6 inches leeway.

When a UK bridge is signed in metric as well, you don't convert the imperial 
measure. You subtract 0.08m from the correct height measured in metres - and 
then round down to 1 decimal place. Thus the actual leeway will be between 
8cm and 18cm.

Isn't that just conservative engineering? You make sure that any verhicle that
is at most the posted height can pass safely, and when a verhicle does hit the
ceiling, you know that it was not a just a tolerance issue. There is no need
to make use of that information unless you actually have to (if there is no
other way of reaching a destination)

I guess that for routing you want to take the higher imperial heigh into
account and put the metric value in a comment section. 

Do people actually enter 11'3 in a consistent way when tagging heights?



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[OSM-talk] Metric / imperial bridge heights

2008-10-11 Thread Richard Bullock
 Mappers should be mapping what it is they find. If I find an 11'3
 clearance bridge with a 20mph limit beneath it then that is what I
 want to map.

 Nobody is suggesting you shouldn't do that. I'll certainly express the
 view that when I drive under that bridge, my km/h speedometer and lack
 of feet and inches reckoning skills will mean that I'll want that
 translated into real money, but this is going to be possible wherever
 you choose to store this information. What I'm saying is that when we
 have tags that are documented as containing simple numbers interpreted
 as being in a particular unit, that you should either convert your
 data into that format or choose another tag where your preferred way
 of using it doesn't break with the already documented behaviour.

With speed limits - there is an exact conversion factor. 1 mph = 1.609344 
km/h exactly. It's not massively difficult to imput data in to OSM in km/h - 
just multiply the mph limit by 1.609344.

In the UK with bridge heights there isn't an exact conversion factor - 
mainly because a signed 11'3 bridge isn't 11'3 high. To get the signed 
height - you subtract 3 inches from the true height then round down to the 
next 3 inches. There will always be between 3 and 6 inches leeway.

When a UK bridge is signed in metric as well, you don't convert the imperial 
measure. You subtract 0.08m from the correct height measured in metres - and 
then round down to 1 decimal place. Thus the actual leeway will be between 
8cm and 18cm.

The regulations say that bridge heights must be reviewed every time the road 
is resurfaced or similar works occur.

This can lead to two bridges being signed the same in metric - but different 
in imperial - or vice versa. E.g. 
http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img7896am4.jpg



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