Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Stefan Keller]

Oi Arlindo

Check again: You should see something now in South and North America!

Yours, Stefan


2013/1/23 Arlindo Pereira :
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to try the game but I see no missions in my city. I live at Rio de
> Janeiro, Brazil, South America.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Arlindo Pereira
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Stefan Keller  wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'm referring to the small Kort game [1] which has been recently
>> mentioned in Weekly OSM Summary #59, January 1, 2013 [2]. It is a
>> cross-platform, crowdsourcing app aimed to improve OpenStreetMap using
>> the concept of gamification (see [3]). Already about 800 users are
>> registered at Kort!
>>
>> Kort is now ready for being translated at Transifex! This is a
>> collaborative, web-based localization platform which is free to use
>> for open source projects.
>>
>> After signing up at http://www.transifex.com with a new account
>> (choose the "Open Source" option at bottom), you can search for Kort
>> project, choose your language, then click on "+ Join Team". You can
>> contribute even if you don't want to do the whole translation (this is
>> why there is a team).  And if you miss a language there, just "Request
>> a new language".It seems to be easy to use and has help – of course in
>> several languages :-).
>>
>> Thank you for contributing to Kort. I can't give you Koins for
>> translating, but I can wish you "happy korting"!
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>> [1] http://www.kort.ch
>> [2] http://opengeodata.org/weekly-osm-summary-59
>> [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kort_App
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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Arlindo Pereira]

Hi,

I'd like to try the game but I see no missions in my city. I live at Rio de
Janeiro, Brazil, South America.

Thanks!

Arlindo Pereira

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Stefan Keller  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I'm referring to the small Kort game [1] which has been recently
> mentioned in Weekly OSM Summary #59, January 1, 2013 [2]. It is a
> cross-platform, crowdsourcing app aimed to improve OpenStreetMap using
> the concept of gamification (see [3]). Already about 800 users are
> registered at Kort!
>
> Kort is now ready for being translated at Transifex! This is a
> collaborative, web-based localization platform which is free to use
> for open source projects.
>
> After signing up at http://www.transifex.com with a new account
> (choose the "Open Source" option at bottom), you can search for Kort
> project, choose your language, then click on "+ Join Team". You can
> contribute even if you don't want to do the whole translation (this is
> why there is a team).  And if you miss a language there, just "Request
> a new language".It seems to be easy to use and has help – of course in
> several languages :-).
>
> Thank you for contributing to Kort. I can't give you Koins for
> translating, but I can wish you "happy korting"!
>
> Stefan
>
> [1] http://www.kort.ch
> [2] http://opengeodata.org/weekly-osm-summary-59
> [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kort_App
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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Stefan Keller]

Hi Adam

You wrote:
> There are plenty of KeepRight errors around my area [1] but they don't show
> up as missions.

I'll check this and will report as issue on
http://github.com/odi86/kort/issues if it's an error.

Yours, Stefan


2013/1/20 Adam Schreiber :
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Stefan Keller  wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Stefan Keller 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 2013/1/20 Adam Schreiber :
>> >> > Is Kort currently only downloading KeepRight bugs for a certain
>> >> > region?
>> >>
>> >> AFAIK it's downloading KeepRight bugs for all continents except
>> >> Australia, Africa and Asia (as offered by KeepRight [1])
>> >> But I have to check first..
>> >> On which continent are you living i.e. trying to play Kort?
>> >>
>> >> [1] http://keepright.ipax.at/index.php?lang=en
>> >>
>> > The continent is North America, The country is USA.  I checked and there
>> > are
>> > keep right bugs where I was looking.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Adam
>>
>> Ok.
>> So your question is about how Kort Webapp handles these?
>> It's displaying bugs 4000 meters around you.
>> You mean that's too short and you see nothing?
>
>
> There are plenty of KeepRight errors around my area [1] but they don't show
> up as missions.
>
> [1]
> http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=13&lat=38.23804&lon=-77.5081&layers=B0T&ch=0%2C30%2C40%2C50%2C70%2C90%2C100%2C110%2C120%2C130%2C150%2C160%2C170%2C180%2C191%2C192%2C193%2C194%2C195%2C196%2C197%2C198%2C201%2C202%2C203%2C204%2C205%2C206%2C207%2C208%2C210%2C220%2C231%2C232%2C270%2C281%2C282%2C283%2C284%2C285%2C291%2C292%2C293%2C294%2C311%2C312%2C313%2C320%2C350%2C370%2C380%2C401%2C402%2C411%2C412%2C413&show_ign=1&show_tmpign=1
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Christian Quest]

Yes, you have plenty of possible queries (select by bbox, type, level,
class, analysis, user), you can even report to osmose when an error is
fixed or if it is a false-positive.

Example:

http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/api/0.1/getBugs?level=1&b=48.8&t=48.9&l=2.3&r=2.4

Il will list level 1 errors near Paris center.

Then you can get details about an error, example:
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/error/194388509

Osmose frontend code is on gitorious: https://gitorious.org/osmose/frontend

Osmose analysis are running mainly on France, but we're adding more and
more countries as we have resources (human and hardware).


2013/1/20 Stefan Keller 

> Hi
>
> 2013/1/20 Christian Quest :
> > Any plan to use data from osmose ?
> > We have some API (undocumented except by looking at the code)
> >
> > Osmose provides fix hints, which may also be reused.
>
> We are collecting additional sources.
> We for sure need more of them so that the game can go on...
> But it's important that the errors are typified/classified as it's the
> case with KeepRight.
> Do you think Osmose API can offer that?
>
> Yours, Stefan
>
>
> > 2013/1/20 Stefan Keller 
> >>
> >> Hi Adam
> >>
> >> 2013/1/20 Adam Schreiber :
> >> > Is Kort currently only downloading KeepRight bugs for a certain
> region?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Adam
> >>
> >> AFAIK it's downloading KeepRight bugs for all continents except
> >> Australia, Africa and Asia (as offered by KeepRight [1])
> >> But I have to check first..
> >> On which continent are you living i.e. trying to play Kort?
> >>
> >> Yours, Stefan
> >>
> >> [1] http://keepright.ipax.at/index.php?lang=en
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Stefan Keller 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> Many thanks for the unbelievable effort to translate Kort.
> >> >> The localization list at Transifex [1] shows 14 languages(1) which
> >> >> have been fully or almost completed - within only two days!
> >> >> I've never worked with Transifex before but now I can say that's
> easy.
> >> >> So if your favorite language is missing, like Polish, Danish,
> >> >> Hungarian, Swedish, Norwegian, Finish, Russian or Greek - just go for
> >> >> it!
> >> >>
> >> >> Stefan
> >> >>
> >> >> [1] https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/kort/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2013/1/17 Miloš Komarčević :
> >> >> > Just requested a Serbian team. (Btw, Janko, I hope you won't mind
> if
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > reuse
> >> >> > and transliterate parts of yours? Same goes for you of course.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Stefan: I noticed some weird stuff like broken down sentences that
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > probably to be concatenated dynamically. This is _very bad_ i18n
> >> >> > design.
> >> >> > Just because it it might work for German or English, it won't work
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > most
> >> >> > other languages. Please write whole sentences in code with a
> >> >> > substitution
> >> >> > argument, even it means some duplication. Same goes for plural
> forms
> >> >> > etc.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Miloš
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Janko Mihelić 
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I started a Croatian translation :)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have one feature request. You should give people badges for
> giving
> >> >> >> us
> >> >> >> the name of a street when there is no name.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Janko
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> talk@openstreetmap.org
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> >> >> >
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> >> >
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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Adam Schreiber]

On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Stefan Keller  wrote:

> > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Stefan Keller 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> 2013/1/20 Adam Schreiber :
> >> > Is Kort currently only downloading KeepRight bugs for a certain
> region?
> >>
> >> AFAIK it's downloading KeepRight bugs for all continents except
> >> Australia, Africa and Asia (as offered by KeepRight [1])
> >> But I have to check first..
> >> On which continent are you living i.e. trying to play Kort?
> >>
> >> [1] http://keepright.ipax.at/index.php?lang=en
> >>
> > The continent is North America, The country is USA.  I checked and there
> are
> > keep right bugs where I was looking.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Adam
>
> Ok.
> So your question is about how Kort Webapp handles these?
> It's displaying bugs 4000 meters around you.
> You mean that's too short and you see nothing?
>

There are plenty of KeepRight errors around my area [1] but they don't show
up as missions.

[1]
http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=13&lat=38.23804&lon=-77.5081&layers=B0T&ch=0%2C30%2C40%2C50%2C70%2C90%2C100%2C110%2C120%2C130%2C150%2C160%2C170%2C180%2C191%2C192%2C193%2C194%2C195%2C196%2C197%2C198%2C201%2C202%2C203%2C204%2C205%2C206%2C207%2C208%2C210%2C220%2C231%2C232%2C270%2C281%2C282%2C283%2C284%2C285%2C291%2C292%2C293%2C294%2C311%2C312%2C313%2C320%2C350%2C370%2C380%2C401%2C402%2C411%2C412%2C413&show_ign=1&show_tmpign=1

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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Stefan Keller]

Hi

2013/1/20 Christian Quest :
> Any plan to use data from osmose ?
> We have some API (undocumented except by looking at the code)
>
> Osmose provides fix hints, which may also be reused.

We are collecting additional sources.
We for sure need more of them so that the game can go on...
But it's important that the errors are typified/classified as it's the
case with KeepRight.
Do you think Osmose API can offer that?

Yours, Stefan


> 2013/1/20 Stefan Keller 
>>
>> Hi Adam
>>
>> 2013/1/20 Adam Schreiber :
>> > Is Kort currently only downloading KeepRight bugs for a certain region?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Adam
>>
>> AFAIK it's downloading KeepRight bugs for all continents except
>> Australia, Africa and Asia (as offered by KeepRight [1])
>> But I have to check first..
>> On which continent are you living i.e. trying to play Kort?
>>
>> Yours, Stefan
>>
>> [1] http://keepright.ipax.at/index.php?lang=en
>>
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Stefan Keller 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks for the unbelievable effort to translate Kort.
>> >> The localization list at Transifex [1] shows 14 languages(1) which
>> >> have been fully or almost completed - within only two days!
>> >> I've never worked with Transifex before but now I can say that's easy.
>> >> So if your favorite language is missing, like Polish, Danish,
>> >> Hungarian, Swedish, Norwegian, Finish, Russian or Greek - just go for
>> >> it!
>> >>
>> >> Stefan
>> >>
>> >> [1] https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/kort/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2013/1/17 Miloš Komarčević :
>> >> > Just requested a Serbian team. (Btw, Janko, I hope you won't mind if
>> >> > I
>> >> > reuse
>> >> > and transliterate parts of yours? Same goes for you of course.)
>> >> >
>> >> > Stefan: I noticed some weird stuff like broken down sentences that
>> >> > are
>> >> > probably to be concatenated dynamically. This is _very bad_ i18n
>> >> > design.
>> >> > Just because it it might work for German or English, it won't work
>> >> > for
>> >> > most
>> >> > other languages. Please write whole sentences in code with a
>> >> > substitution
>> >> > argument, even it means some duplication. Same goes for plural forms
>> >> > etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > Miloš
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Janko Mihelić 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I started a Croatian translation :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have one feature request. You should give people badges for giving
>> >> >> us
>> >> >> the name of a street when there is no name.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Janko
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ___
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>> >> >> talk@openstreetmap.org
>> >> >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>> >> >>
>> >> >
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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Stefan Keller]

Hi,

2013/1/20 Adam Schreiber :
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Stefan Keller  wrote:
>>
>> 2013/1/20 Adam Schreiber :
>> > Is Kort currently only downloading KeepRight bugs for a certain region?
>>
>> AFAIK it's downloading KeepRight bugs for all continents except
>> Australia, Africa and Asia (as offered by KeepRight [1])
>> But I have to check first..
>> On which continent are you living i.e. trying to play Kort?
>>
>> [1] http://keepright.ipax.at/index.php?lang=en
>>
> The continent is North America, The country is USA.  I checked and there are
> keep right bugs where I was looking.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adam

Ok.
So your question is about how Kort Webapp handles these?
It's displaying bugs 4000 meters around you.
You mean that's too short and you see nothing?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Christian Quest]

Any plan to use data from osmose ? We have some API (undocumented except by
looking at the code)

Osmose provides fix hints, which may also be reused.


2013/1/20 Stefan Keller 

> Hi Adam
>
> 2013/1/20 Adam Schreiber :
> > Is Kort currently only downloading KeepRight bugs for a certain region?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Adam
>
> AFAIK it's downloading KeepRight bugs for all continents except
> Australia, Africa and Asia (as offered by KeepRight [1])
> But I have to check first..
> On which continent are you living i.e. trying to play Kort?
>
> Yours, Stefan
>
> [1] http://keepright.ipax.at/index.php?lang=en
>
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Stefan Keller 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Many thanks for the unbelievable effort to translate Kort.
> >> The localization list at Transifex [1] shows 14 languages(1) which
> >> have been fully or almost completed - within only two days!
> >> I've never worked with Transifex before but now I can say that's easy.
> >> So if your favorite language is missing, like Polish, Danish,
> >> Hungarian, Swedish, Norwegian, Finish, Russian or Greek - just go for
> >> it!
> >>
> >> Stefan
> >>
> >> [1] https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/kort/
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/17 Miloš Komarčević :
> >> > Just requested a Serbian team. (Btw, Janko, I hope you won't mind if I
> >> > reuse
> >> > and transliterate parts of yours? Same goes for you of course.)
> >> >
> >> > Stefan: I noticed some weird stuff like broken down sentences that are
> >> > probably to be concatenated dynamically. This is _very bad_ i18n
> design.
> >> > Just because it it might work for German or English, it won't work for
> >> > most
> >> > other languages. Please write whole sentences in code with a
> >> > substitution
> >> > argument, even it means some duplication. Same goes for plural forms
> >> > etc.
> >> >
> >> > Miloš
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Janko Mihelić 
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I started a Croatian translation :)
> >> >>
> >> >> I have one feature request. You should give people badges for giving
> us
> >> >> the name of a street when there is no name.
> >> >>
> >> >> Janko
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ___
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> >> >> talk@openstreetmap.org
> >> >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
> >> >>
> >> >
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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Adam Schreiber]

On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Stefan Keller  wrote:

> 2013/1/20 Adam Schreiber :
> > Is Kort currently only downloading KeepRight bugs for a certain region?
>
> AFAIK it's downloading KeepRight bugs for all continents except
> Australia, Africa and Asia (as offered by KeepRight [1])
> But I have to check first..
> On which continent are you living i.e. trying to play Kort?
>
> [1] http://keepright.ipax.at/index.php?lang=en
>
> The continent is North America, The country is USA.  I checked and there
are keep right bugs where I was looking.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Stefan Keller]

Hi Adam

2013/1/20 Adam Schreiber :
> Is Kort currently only downloading KeepRight bugs for a certain region?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam

AFAIK it's downloading KeepRight bugs for all continents except
Australia, Africa and Asia (as offered by KeepRight [1])
But I have to check first..
On which continent are you living i.e. trying to play Kort?

Yours, Stefan

[1] http://keepright.ipax.at/index.php?lang=en

>
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Stefan Keller  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Many thanks for the unbelievable effort to translate Kort.
>> The localization list at Transifex [1] shows 14 languages(1) which
>> have been fully or almost completed - within only two days!
>> I've never worked with Transifex before but now I can say that's easy.
>> So if your favorite language is missing, like Polish, Danish,
>> Hungarian, Swedish, Norwegian, Finish, Russian or Greek - just go for
>> it!
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>> [1] https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/kort/
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/17 Miloš Komarčević :
>> > Just requested a Serbian team. (Btw, Janko, I hope you won't mind if I
>> > reuse
>> > and transliterate parts of yours? Same goes for you of course.)
>> >
>> > Stefan: I noticed some weird stuff like broken down sentences that are
>> > probably to be concatenated dynamically. This is _very bad_ i18n design.
>> > Just because it it might work for German or English, it won't work for
>> > most
>> > other languages. Please write whole sentences in code with a
>> > substitution
>> > argument, even it means some duplication. Same goes for plural forms
>> > etc.
>> >
>> > Miloš
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Janko Mihelić  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I started a Croatian translation :)
>> >>
>> >> I have one feature request. You should give people badges for giving us
>> >> the name of a street when there is no name.
>> >>
>> >> Janko
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ___
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>> >
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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Adam Schreiber]

Is Kort currently only downloading KeepRight bugs for a certain region?

Thanks,

Adam


On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Stefan Keller  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Many thanks for the unbelievable effort to translate Kort.
> The localization list at Transifex [1] shows 14 languages(1) which
> have been fully or almost completed - within only two days!
> I've never worked with Transifex before but now I can say that's easy.
> So if your favorite language is missing, like Polish, Danish,
> Hungarian, Swedish, Norwegian, Finish, Russian or Greek - just go for
> it!
>
> Stefan
>
> [1] https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/kort/
>
>
> 2013/1/17 Miloš Komarčević :
> > Just requested a Serbian team. (Btw, Janko, I hope you won't mind if I
> reuse
> > and transliterate parts of yours? Same goes for you of course.)
> >
> > Stefan: I noticed some weird stuff like broken down sentences that are
> > probably to be concatenated dynamically. This is _very bad_ i18n design.
> > Just because it it might work for German or English, it won't work for
> most
> > other languages. Please write whole sentences in code with a substitution
> > argument, even it means some duplication. Same goes for plural forms etc.
> >
> > Miloš
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Janko Mihelić  wrote:
> >>
> >> I started a Croatian translation :)
> >>
> >> I have one feature request. You should give people badges for giving us
> >> the name of a street when there is no name.
> >>
> >> Janko
> >>
> >>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Stefan Keller]

Hi,

Many thanks for the unbelievable effort to translate Kort.
The localization list at Transifex [1] shows 14 languages(1) which
have been fully or almost completed - within only two days!
I've never worked with Transifex before but now I can say that's easy.
So if your favorite language is missing, like Polish, Danish,
Hungarian, Swedish, Norwegian, Finish, Russian or Greek - just go for
it!

Stefan

[1] https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/kort/


2013/1/17 Miloš Komarčević :
> Just requested a Serbian team. (Btw, Janko, I hope you won't mind if I reuse
> and transliterate parts of yours? Same goes for you of course.)
>
> Stefan: I noticed some weird stuff like broken down sentences that are
> probably to be concatenated dynamically. This is _very bad_ i18n design.
> Just because it it might work for German or English, it won't work for most
> other languages. Please write whole sentences in code with a substitution
> argument, even it means some duplication. Same goes for plural forms etc.
>
> Miloš
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Janko Mihelić  wrote:
>>
>> I started a Croatian translation :)
>>
>> I have one feature request. You should give people badges for giving us
>> the name of a street when there is no name.
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[John F. Eldredge]

"Miloš Komarčević"  wrote:

> On Jan 17, 2013 7:55 PM, "Stefan Keller"  wrote:
> 
> >
> > Thanks for the hint.
> > How would you then for example insert a newline (CR+) LF?
> > Does there a language file format standard exist for that?
> >
> 
> Well, the idea is that you don't mix layout into the content at all.
> Presuming a line break at a certain position might not make sense in
> another language.
> 
> Not a problem of language file format, but your app framework.
> 
> M
> 
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Sentence structure varies considerably from language to language.  Having words 
or phrases in the wrong order may turn a sentence into gibberish, or in some 
cases may form a grammatically-valid sentence, but with a different meaning 
than intended.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Miloš Komarčević]

On Jan 17, 2013 7:55 PM, "Stefan Keller"  wrote:

>
> Thanks for the hint.
> How would you then for example insert a newline (CR+) LF?
> Does there a language file format standard exist for that?
>

Well, the idea is that you don't mix layout into the content at all.
Presuming a line break at a certain position might not make sense in
another language.

Not a problem of language file format, but your app framework.

M
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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Stefan Keller]

Hi Miloš

2013/1/17 Miloš Komarčević :
(...)
> Stefan: I noticed some weird stuff like broken down sentences that are
> probably to be concatenated dynamically. This is _very bad_ i18n design.
> Just because it it might work for German or English, it won't work for most
> other languages. Please write whole sentences in code with a substitution
> argument, even it means some duplication. Same goes for plural forms etc.

Thanks for the hint.
How would you then for example insert a newline (CR+) LF?
Does there a language file format standard exist for that?

Yours, Stefan

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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Miloš Komarčević]

Just requested a Serbian team. (Btw, Janko, I hope you won't mind if I
reuse and transliterate parts of yours? Same goes for you of course.)

Stefan: I noticed some weird stuff like broken down sentences that are
probably to be concatenated dynamically. This is _very bad_ i18n design.
Just because it it might work for German or English, it won't work for most
other languages. Please write whole sentences in code with a substitution
argument, even it means some duplication. Same goes for plural forms etc.

Miloš




On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Janko Mihelić  wrote:

> I started a Croatian translation :)
>
> I have one feature request. You should give people badges for giving us
> the name of a street when there is no name.
>
> Janko
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Kort Game: Translators seeked!

[Janko Mihelić]

I started a Croatian translation :)

I have one feature request. You should give people badges for giving us the
name of a street when there is no name.

Janko
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