Re: [talk-au] Mini-roundabout archive

2009-07-01 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:21:39 +1000
Rick Peterson ausr...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Can someone please direct me to the talk-au archive post where the 
 discussion commenced on the topic of mini-roundabouts ?
 
 Thanks
 
 Rick
 
 
 ___
 Talk-au mailing list
 Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
 

Not sure on the exact date but about October November 2008.

-- 
Cheers
Ross

___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


[talk-au] JOSM upload woes: placeholder ids must be unique for created elements

2009-07-01 Thread b . schulz . 10
I'm getting the above error message (code 400) when trying to upload my latest 
set of edits. Any ideas how to get around it or fix it? JOSM doesn't give any 
feedback as to which placeholder ID is causing the error etc.

Googling the error message just gives a page with source code which handles the 
exception.

Please don't tell me the edits need to be done again :p.

Brent

___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


[talk-au] FIXED: Re: JOSM upload woes: placeholder ids must be unique for created elements

2009-07-01 Thread b . schulz . 10
Ok, was a bit hasty there. Turns out I had a no-right-turn relation with 6 
members because each member was added twice. Fixing that (ie, deleting the 
repeated members) fixed the problem and the chanset closed :).

- Original Message -
From: b.schulz...@scu.edu.au
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 6:47 pm
Subject: [talk-au] JOSM upload woes: placeholder ids must be unique for created 
elements
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org

 I'm getting the above error message (code 400) when trying to 
 upload my latest set of edits. Any ideas how to get around it or 
 fix it? JOSM doesn't give any feedback as to which placeholder 
 ID is causing the error etc.
 
 Googling the error message just gives a page with source code 
 which handles the exception.
 
 Please don't tell me the edits need to be done again :p.
 
 Brent
 
 
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] bus routes

2009-07-01 Thread Liz
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote:
 There was a posting on the main talk list today about bus routes...

 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-July/038119.html
thanks
luckily or not, we don't have nay bus pass our place, but apparently there is 
a bus service in town.
it looked like a brain stretching exercise to me


___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] Mini-roundabout archive

2009-07-01 Thread Liz
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:
 Not sure on the exact date but about October November 2008.
probably late November - it started after that visit i made to adelaide and 
upset a local 
;-)


___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] Mini-roundabout archive

2009-07-01 Thread Liz
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:
 On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:21:39 +1000

 Rick Peterson ausr...@iinet.net.au wrote:
  Can someone please direct me to the talk-au archive post where the
  discussion commenced on the topic of mini-roundabouts ?
 
  Thanks
 
  Rick
 
 
  ___
  Talk-au mailing list
  Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
  http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

 Not sure on the exact date but about October November 2008.

http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2008-December/001136.html

___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] bus routes

2009-07-01 Thread John Smith

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
 thanks
 luckily or not, we don't have nay bus pass our place, but
 apparently there is 
 a bus service in town.
 it looked like a brain stretching exercise to me

I guess that's why they're testing it, for usability as much as a method/means 
of storing all sorts of meta data within the framework of OSM.


  

___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread Rick Peterson

John Smith wrote:
 .using the validator plugin

   
Hi John,

I originally loaded the Validator plugin using the JOSM interface and 
then I enabled it in the plugins menu.

I use it to check all of the data I download, usually before I start 
editing and then again before I upload my work. It's incredible what 
little errors I'd manage to miss, that it finds and highlights for me !!

Tips:
1. Make sure the validator plugin is loading (see image)
2. Ensure no nodes or ways are selected in JOSM
3. Click the Validate button
4. Get results in the validator pane (see image)
5. In the Validator pane, click the particular folder (in this case 
Warnings/Unnamed Ways) or individual sub items to highlight them in the 
main window in yellow (see image)
6. Where you have a full screen with lots of different errors, right 
click an item to zoom to problem

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

Rick




___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread Rick Peterson




opps, forgot to attach image links:

1.
http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx204/AusRick/?action="">
2.
http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx204/AusRick/?action="">
3.
http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx204/AusRick/?action="">

Rick Peterson wrote:

  John Smith wrote:
  
  
.using the validator plugin

  

  
  Hi John,

I originally loaded the Validator plugin using the JOSM interface and 
then I enabled it in the plugins menu.

I use it to check all of the data I download, usually before I start 
editing and then again before I upload my work. It's incredible what 
little errors I'd manage to miss, that it finds and highlights for me !!

Tips:
1. Make sure the validator plugin is loading (see image)
2. Ensure no nodes or ways are selected in JOSM
3. Click the Validate button
4. Get results in the validator pane (see image)
5. In the Validator pane, click the particular folder (in this case 
Warnings/Unnamed Ways) or individual sub items to highlight them in the 
main window in yellow (see image)
6. Where you have a full screen with lots of different errors, right 
click an item to "zoom to problem"

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

Rick




___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


  





___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread Rick Peterson





John Smith wrote:
 Gympie has lots of unnamed ways, a number
added by me and I'm just trying to easily locate and name them.


Indeed I get 288 unnamed way errors when I do a generous area
download around Gympie QLD. (Including unnamed roundabouts which I've
written about before as a bugbear)

Something must not be configured correctly.

I'm using JOSM stable version 1669
Java version 1.6.0_13
and I regularly update all of my JOSM plugins using the
preferences/plugins/update button within JOSM.

Here's a screen capture of my Data Validator configuration page
http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx204/AusRick/?action="">






___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread John Smith

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is an ignore file for the validator - you can tell it
 to ignore
 certain types of errors.  It's a text file in the
 plugin area, I
 think.  You may have accidentally added streets to
 that, it easy to
 do.  There may be a setting to reset it, I forget, or
 just delete it.
 Somewhere in the docs it's mentioned, but it is obscure.

That was it, I don't even remember ignoring it but yea, deleted the ignore file 
and they all show up now.


  

___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread John Smith


--- On Wed, 1/7/09, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote:

 That was it, I don't even remember ignoring it but yea,
 deleted the ignore file and they all show up now.

Now all I need to figure out is how to ignore all unnamed ways where 
junction=roundabout :)


  

___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread Rick Peterson


John Smith wrote:
  all I need to figure out is how to ignore all unnamed ways where 
 junction=roundabout :)
   

I hope you will share such valuable information should you happen upon a 
method! .. those roundabout false-positives drive me nuts !!

That aside, I find the JOSM Validator plugin a truly valuable piece of 
software for working with OSM data.


___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread John Smith

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Rick Peterson ausr...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 I hope you will share such valuable information should you
 happen upon a 
 method! .. those roundabout false-positives drive me nuts
 !!

I downloaded the plugin code, kind of figured out where to stick some code to 
do it, but then I have no idea how to rebuild it so I emailed one of the 
authors.


  

___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] Tagwatch

2009-07-01 Thread Rick
Rick Peterson wrote:
 Does anyone know if someone provides a Tagwatch excerpt for just Australia?

I'm guessing not !

My thoughts are that actual tag use and combination statistics are as 
valuable (or more valuable) than theoretical tag suggestions. At the 
very least, discussions on tags used in Australia can be based on 
current actual usage.

Is anyone interested in looking at configuring the script to work with 
an Australian OSM excerpt? (such as the daily extract at 
http://osmaustralia.org/osmausextract.php)

I have no experience with Perl scripting but can find hosting for the 
website to make it available to everyone.

I see that the main Tagwatch site ( http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/ ) 
hasn't updated since 11th June 2009, so the script could be broken with 
implementation of the API 0.6

I'd be happy to work on this as a side project with any other interested 
(especially script skilled) people.

Cheers :)



___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] Tagwatch

2009-07-01 Thread Ross Scanlon
If you attempt to download it other than clicking on the button you do not
get the file.  Found that out before.

Just downloaded it and its 102mb.

Cheers
Ross


 --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Rick ausr...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Is anyone interested in looking at configuring the script
 to work with
 an Australian OSM excerpt? (such as the daily extract at
 http://osmaustralia.org/osmausextract.php)

 I emailed the owner of that website last night because that extract is
 showing up as 22Bytes big...




 ___
 Talk-au mailing list
 Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au



-- 
Cheers
Ross



___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread b . schulz . 10
If you feel like learning how to compile Java code then this page gives some 
instructions: http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~parrt/course/601/lectures/java.tools.html

Basically the command javac is the Java compiler. You run it against .java 
files to build .class files. The .jar is just a tarball containing a whole 
directory structure of source code and compiled code (.java's and .class's).

Good luck.

Brent

- Original Message -
From: John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org, Rick Peterson ausr...@iinet.net.au

 
 --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Rick Peterson ausr...@iinet.net.au wrote:
  John Smith wrote:
    all I need to figure out is how to ignore all
  unnamed ways where junction=roundabout :)
     
  
  I hope you will share such valuable information should you
  happen upon a 
  method! .. those roundabout false-positives drive me nuts
  !!
 
 Actually I came across another validation issue, where 
 railway=abandoned it still expects level crossings and 
 intersection points, if I can figure out how to rebuild the jar 
 file I should be able to code round these issues.
 
 
   
 
 ___
 Talk-au mailing list
 Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au