[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...
-- Forwarded message -- From: John Smith Date: 1 June 2010 10:07 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off... To: Tim McNamara Cc: Nakor , t...@openstreetmap.org On 1 June 2010 09:52, Tim McNamara wrote: > Still, even if they breached the duty of care, the injured woman will still > need to establish that the breach was a cause of her injury. The only thing that is new in all this is pedestrian routing, people have been following incorrect satnav routes for ages and usually driving into places they shouldn't as a result, people seem to love to be told what to do: http://www.intology.com/science-technology/satnav-causes-30-accidents-in-uk-each-year/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...
-- Forwarded message -- From: Tim McNamara Date: 1 June 2010 09:52 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off... To: Nakor Cc: t...@openstreetmap.org On 1 June 2010 09:23, Nakor wrote: > > On 5/31/2010 4:36 PM, John Smith wrote: > > Her lawyers claim Google is liable because it did not warn her > that the route would not offer a safe place for a pedestrian to walk. > > > Did Google add their notice after the fact? > > "Walking directions are in beta. Use caution – This route may be missing > sidewalks or pedestrian paths." Here's a case from NZ where something similar happened that didn't lead to injury. Until this article was posted, Google Maps directed people through Wellington's bus tunnel, a 1 way tunnel which barely has enough width for buses to travel through. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3552037/Google-maps-off-course-with-walk-through-bus-tunnel At that incident Goolge's response was: Google spokeswoman Annie Baxter said the walking directions search function in Google Maps was still at an experimental phase. "We clearly advise people to use caution as routes might be missing footpaths or pedestrian-friendly paths." This implies that they they're undertaking a responsibility to notify people when routes are generated. I guess if the BlackBerry version doesn't include the disclaimer, there's an argument to say that Google didn't meet its (self-imposed?) duty of care to the consumers. Still, even if they breached the duty of care, the injured woman will still need to establish that the breach was a cause of her injury. Tim. ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...
On 1 June 2010 09:39, wrote: > Another article on the same topic, > > http://searchengineland.com/woman-follows-google-maps-walking-directions-gets-hit-sues-43212 I wonder if she's eligible for an honourable mention from the darwin awards? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Sydney: Random Hacks of Kindness
Hi Talk-AU, If you'll be at Random Hacks of Kindness in Sydney on June 05-06, and really, you should be, say "Hi" to the Crisis Commons visitor from Toronto. http://www.rhok.org/events/rhok-1-0/sydney-australia/ About RHoK Random Hacks of Kindness (RHoK) is all about using technology to make the world a better place by building a community of innovation. RHoK brings software engineers together with disaster relief experts to identify critical global challenges, and develop software to respond to them. A RHoK Hackathon event brings together the best and the brightest hackers from around the world, who volunteer their time to solve real-world problems. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...
Another article on the same topic, http://searchengineland.com/woman-follows-google-maps-walking-directions-gets-hit-sues-43212 Kind Regards, Nicholas Lawrence Geographic Information Systems Coordinator | Geospatial Technologies Engineering & Technology / Design, Environment & Stewardship Division | Department of Transport and Main Roads Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill Qld 4000 GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane Qld 4001 P: (07) 38342477 | F: (07) 38342998 E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au Tomorrow's Queensland: strong, green, smart, healthy and fair – www.towardQ2.qld.gov.au P| Please consider the environment before printing this email *** WARNING: This email (including any attachments) may contain legally privileged, confidential or private information and may be protected by copyright. You may only use it if you are the person(s) it was intended to be sent to and if you use it in an authorised way. No one is allowed to use, review, alter, transmit, disclose, distribute, print or copy this email without appropriate authority. If this email was not intended for you and was sent to you by mistake, please telephone or email me immediately, destroy any hardcopies of this email and delete it and any copies of it from your computer system. Any right which the sender may have under copyright law, and any legal privilege and confidentiality attached to this email is not waived or destroyed by that mistake. It is your responsibility to ensure that this email does not contain and is not affected by computer viruses, defects or interference by third parties or replication problems (including incompatibility with your computer system). Opinions contained in this email do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Department of Transport and Main Roads, Maritime Safety Queensland or endorsed organisations utilising the same infrastructure. *** ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...
Hugh Pickens writes "The Toronto Star reports that a Utah woman is suing Google for more than $100,000 in damages, claiming its maps function gave her walking directions that led her onto a major highway, where she was struck by a car. Lauren Rosenberg sought directions between two addresses in Utah about 3 kilometers apart and the top result suggested that she follow a busy rural highway for several hundred meters. The highway did not have sidewalks or any other pedestrian-friendly amenities, and Rosenberg was struck by a car. Rosenberg filed suit against both the driver of the car that struck her and Google, claiming both carried responsibility in her injury. Her lawyers claim Google is liable because it did not warn her that the route would not offer a safe place for a pedestrian to walk. Google has pointed out that the directions Rosenberg sought come with a warning of caution for pedestrians, but Rosenberg claims that she accessed the Maps function on her Blackberry mobile device, where it did not include the warning." http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/05/31/1742203/Pedestrian-Follows-Google-Map-Gets-Run-Over-Sues?from=rss ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Road restrictions
On Mon, 31 May 2010, John Smith wrote: > Yup, I added these tags specifically with the intent of using areas > for the most part and only using ways as a last resort for any > exceptions. around here (nsw) b-doubles have routes and there are a couple of road train routes but in general road trains are restricted by area http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/heavyvehicles/downloads/rav_maps/rav_maps_dl1.html?hvlid=ravmaps and the maps, required to be carried by drivers, are not correct, because it sends drivers up the wrong part of our road ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
