[talk-au] OSMF Redaction bot working on Australia

2012-07-18 Thread Arie Paap
Hello

I've been watching the progress of the bot on North America and it
seems to have mostly finished there. It is now working on Australia:
starting from the South and working northwards. I suspect it will be
done by the end of today, but the high rate of redactions required
might slow it down.

In lieu of a midnight announcement by someone in UK or Europe I
thought I'd mention it here.

If you've missed the various announcements you can monitor progress
here: http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/license-change/botprocessing.php
and see the edits at
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/OSMF%20Redaction%20Account/edits

Arie.

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Re: [talk-au] Introduction Brett Russell (Ent)

2012-07-18 Thread John Henderson

On 18/07/12 18:45, Brett Russell wrote:


I have been playing with the IMG file for Tasmania from OSM website,
 both routable and standard and like what I see but they are
optimised for vehicles with foot tracks not showing unto at the 300
metre scale is zoomed to.  As do mountains.  This means you are
navigating at the micro level when these features should be at the
macro level.  Huts is another item that needs to show up on macro
level.


Have you managed to get a gmapsupp.img Garmin file out of mkgmap yet?

If and when you do, try editing the "points" file entry for
"natural=peak", and change the resolution value in that entry to (say)
16.  Then make a new gmapsupp.img and see how your mountains display at
different zoom levels then.

For walking tracks, try a similar change to the "lines" file for
"highway=path".

If you want to do more significant changes (say making walking tracks
show as a bold purple line), then you need to use a style file (a "TYP"
file).  I've used this online editor for maintaining mine:

http://ati.land.cz/gps/typdecomp/editor.cgi

but there may be easier methods available these days.  This is how
cycling maps derived from OSM might make cycle paths show more
prominently than roads.

I'm guessing you've already discovered that you can download your own
custom area of OSM data by clicking on "Export" when viewing the
ordinary OSM map.

John

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Re: [talk-au] I feel like such a newbie

2012-07-18 Thread John Henderson

On 18/07/12 01:46, SomeoneElse wrote:

FWIW recent splitter and mkgmap versions should work OK with pbf
files, I think.


Thanks for the tip.  I'm happy to report that I've updated my splitter
and mkgmap, and have created my gmapsupp.img from
australia-oceania.osm.pbf without using osmosis at all.

I note however that mkgmap spat out this one warning:

SEVERE (LineSplitterFilter): 63240017.osm.gz: Way
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/143243495) has a max dimension
of 32767 and is about to be split (routing will be broken)

I haven't got to the bottom of what's going on there.

John

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Re: [talk-au] Introduction Brett Russell (Ent)

2012-07-18 Thread Paul HAYDON

Hi Brett (et al), Firstly, this is my first post on an OSM forum, so apologies 
if I get anything wrong (etiquette, format, etc.).  These forums are somewhat 
less sophisticated than others on which I've contributed. IMHO, you'll find 
most of the data on OSM to exhibit a car-bias - it's the nature of the beast, 
because that's where the interest of most contributors lie (myself included).  
But there is some data of use for cyclists and walkers, which continues to grow 
thanks to the efforts of contributors such as yourself.  I've used the OSM data 
for production of Magellan custom (detail) maps for use with my eXplorist XL, 
primarily when motorcycle touring, and so have become somewhat familiar with 
its content.  But I recently included cycleways and pedestrian paths, based on 
requests on another forum with which I'm involved. I cannot comment/help 
regarding Garmin issues, but am most certainly willing to discuss the same 
items at a more conceptual level - for example the display of map detail at 
various zoom levels.  I've been through that whole saga (although, again, based 
about road-use) with the Magellan maps.  I know you're adding detail yourself, 
but if you find what is available on OSM to be insufficient, Brett, you might 
try MapConnect at Geoscience Australia 
(http://www.ga.gov.au/topographic-mapping/mapconnect.html) - I'm told their 
tracks and trails enjoy better coverage than OSM, and can be downloaded in 
various file formats (I use *.shp for vector maps).
 As for contours, I abandoned them because they slowed down my GPSr 
dramatically, but you, of course, will have a greater need for them on foot.  
Newer devices than my XL (circa 2006) might cater for that type of data more 
adequately. If you're looking for an alternative to tethering your iPhone, some 
of the SIM providers offer good prepaid data plans, but consider the 
performance of the network (Telstra, Optus, etc.) before proceeding.  I use 
Amaysim (Optus network) - 10GB for $100 is valid for 12mths - with a wireless 
hotspot modem FWIW. Anyway, good luck with your mapping.  Get in touch if you 
think there might be something with which I might be able to assist.  
Cheers,Paul.  
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 19:15:09 +1030
> From: Brett Russell 
> To: OSM Australia mailing list 
> Subject: [talk-au] Introduction Brett Russell (Ent)
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> 
> Hi All
> 
> First the hardware
> 
> PC = ASUS NX90 (I7) running Windows Home Premium 64 bit version.
> GPS = Garmin 62s
> Phone = iPhone
> 
> Software
> 
> Ok, I have just installed the java development kit.  This must be a different 
> version to the Java I installed to get JOSM working.  Now when I type java in 
> any directory it is acknowledge.  So thanks guys progress has been made.
> 
> I have downloaded mkgmap before and it appears to at least be "there" when I 
> run java mkgmap.  So me thinks I have the basics there.
> 
> splitter-r200 is downloaded
> 
> Purpose
> 
> I am a bushwalking in Tasssie and have been using Garmins maps and have 
> become rather dissatisfied with them.  They have good detail on lakes but 
> nothing on walking tracks and the mountains are in the wrong place and even 
> have the wrong names.  Shonky is missing detail but was a great freebie.
> 
> I am getting into more off track walking so I am hoping to use OSM to develop 
> maps.  A key feature missing from Garmin Maps (tracks aside) is land use such 
> as clearings/heath.  It is remarkably easy from the satellite maps to spot 
> potential camp sites so be great to mark them for looking at on the ground.
> 
> I have been playing with the IMG file for Tasmania from OSM website, both 
> routable and standard and like what I see but they are optimised for vehicles 
> with foot tracks not showing unto at the 300 metre scale is zoomed to.  As do 
> mountains.  This means you are navigating at the micro level when these 
> features should be at the macro level.  Huts is another item that needs to 
> show up on macro level.
> 
> At the moment I have Contour 5M on my Garmin and load it over OSM.  This is a 
> reasonable solution but looking for a more elegant one.  Especially one that 
> will enable me to use Garmin Basecamp at homebase with contours.  Hence 
> lookimg to combine contours with OSM.  I hear someone say, cyclemap.  They 
> are rather non existent for Tassie and also very slow to update.  Also on 
> website bombarded me with "requests" for donations I gave up downloading 
> anything.
> 
> I have tried my iPhone running various app that use tiles and honestly the 
> vector mapping system kills tiles.  The vector data is up-to-date while tiles 
> can be weeks behind and massive download sizes at the finer scales.  Tiles 
> seem to me rather paper based logic while vector is jet age.  Now time to dig 
> I foxhole and hide from the flame throwers.
> 
> Because the map data is so basic for Tassie I am only wanting to download 

[talk-au] Introduction Brett Russell (Ent)

2012-07-18 Thread Brett Russell

Hi All

First the hardware

PC = ASUS NX90 (I7) running Windows Home Premium 64 bit version.
GPS = Garmin 62s
Phone = iPhone

Software

Ok, I have just installed the java development kit.  This must be a different 
version to the Java I installed to get JOSM working.  Now when I type java in 
any directory it is acknowledge.  So thanks guys progress has been made.

I have downloaded mkgmap before and it appears to at least be "there" when I 
run java mkgmap.  So me thinks I have the basics there.

splitter-r200 is downloaded

Purpose

I am a bushwalking in Tasssie and have been using Garmins maps and have become 
rather dissatisfied with them.  They have good detail on lakes but nothing on 
walking tracks and the mountains are in the wrong place and even have the wrong 
names.  Shonky is missing detail but was a great freebie.

I am getting into more off track walking so I am hoping to use OSM to develop 
maps.  A key feature missing from Garmin Maps (tracks aside) is land use such 
as clearings/heath.  It is remarkably easy from the satellite maps to spot 
potential camp sites so be great to mark them for looking at on the ground.

I have been playing with the IMG file for Tasmania from OSM website, both 
routable and standard and like what I see but they are optimised for vehicles 
with foot tracks not showing unto at the 300 metre scale is zoomed to.  As do 
mountains.  This means you are navigating at the micro level when these 
features should be at the macro level.  Huts is another item that needs to show 
up on macro level.

At the moment I have Contour 5M on my Garmin and load it over OSM.  This is a 
reasonable solution but looking for a more elegant one.  Especially one that 
will enable me to use Garmin Basecamp at homebase with contours.  Hence lookimg 
to combine contours with OSM.  I hear someone say, cyclemap.  They are rather 
non existent for Tassie and also very slow to update.  Also on website 
bombarded me with "requests" for donations I gave up downloading anything.

I have tried my iPhone running various app that use tiles and honestly the 
vector mapping system kills tiles.  The vector data is up-to-date while tiles 
can be weeks behind and massive download sizes at the finer scales.  Tiles seem 
to me rather paper based logic while vector is jet age.  Now time to dig I 
foxhole and hide from the flame throwers.

Because the map data is so basic for Tassie I am only wanting to download 
Tassie as I am constantly updating the map data. My access to the internet is 
my iPhone running as a hotspot so not keen for data cost and speed to download 
full Australia every time.

Have a look at the Walls area of Tassie (Mount Jerusalem heading to Mount Ida) 
and you can see my handy work.  I am gradually converting the bigger lakes from 
the rough scale used by what looks was an automated process from Landsat.  Also 
adding in any water source and starting on the mountains.

Thanks

Oh and thanks the OSM community. I have been using the OSM forum for a few 
basic questions but would like to use this list to develop walking maps for 
Tassie at least with hopefully someone keen on other states mapping their home 
state.  And the emails have been greatly appreciated.


Cheers Brett

 

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