Re: [talk-au] Fixing ABS boundaries?

2010-02-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 February 2010 10:58, Sam Wilson s...@archives.org.au wrote:
 Ought one fix ABS administrative boundaries to bring them into line with
 roads (or nearmap, or surveys, or whatever else seems to actually be
 accurate)?

The more I've had to deal with this the more I think it's a bad idea
to move them to match roads. Chances are the ABS and other govt
agencies won't accept any data we produce for QA reasons so would
there be any real reason to improve the data if it's close enough?

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Re: [talk-au] Fixing ABS boundaries?

2010-02-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 February 2010 11:26, Sam Wilson s...@archives.org.au wrote:
 You're quite right, there's no reason to change the ABS data if it is,
 by definition, correct.  I guess I'd just been thinking that it was
 probably supposed to match the roads.

Which makes it difficult to fix roads if the boundaries are always
getting in the way, potlatch and JOSM don't do anything sensible to
protect boundaries at this point in time.

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Re: [talk-au] Fixing ABS boundaries?

2010-02-13 Thread Richard Colless






Sam Wilson wrote:

  So the ABS defines boundaries with coordinates, then?  Rather than roads 
etc. (as, say, electoral boundaries are defined)?

You're quite right, there's no reason to change the ABS data if it is, 
by definition, correct.  I guess I'd just been thinking that it was 
probably supposed to match the roads.


  

The ABS boundaries were defined many years ago, usually by some form of
surveying data based on existing roads, watercourses etc.. But in a lot
of cases, the roads which were originally used have been moved, in some
cases by tens of metres. The ABS boundaries have never been updated.

Richard



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Re: [talk-au] Fixing ABS boundaries?

2010-02-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 February 2010 15:37, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote:
 The ABS boundaries were defined many years ago, usually by some form of
 surveying data based on existing roads, watercourses etc.. But in a lot of
 cases, the roads which were originally used have been moved, in some cases
 by tens of metres. The ABS boundaries have never been updated.

You also have differences in datums that cause small errors and so on...

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