[Talk-GB] Railway edits in the UK that could perhaps benefit from a bit of checking.

2014-11-08 Thread SomeoneElse
An anonymous note adder (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/267719) and 
someone on IRC noticed some problematical railway edits near 
Sutton-in-Ashfield:


http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/311380489#map=15/53.1247/-1.2346&layers=N

It looks like an attempt to dual the Robin Hood line went a bit wrong 
and ended up slicing through an industrial estate and some areas of 
housing (though I'm sure it was "cock-up rather than conspiracy" as Sir 
Bernard Ingham would have said).  Looking at some other edits in the 
same changeset, there are some other, less obvious, issues too, which 
I've added to the changeset discussion:


http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26590071

The most obvious problem seems to be "tracing the railway in but not 
joining properly to other features (such as crossings)".  Some 
information (e.g. "cutting=yes") has also been lost.


Another local changeset:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26587435
has some similar issues.

There have been a number of other edits, some with rather a lot of 
deletions in them, including:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26613977

All of these changesets could probably also benefit from a review from 
local mappers to identify potential issues.


Cheers,

Andy


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Re: [Talk-GB] News Paper Article

2014-11-08 Thread Dudley Ibbett
There have been a number of articles in the Guardian about Google maps.  It was 
therefore good to see something on Openstreetmap in this Friday's edition .  
The online version can be found at:

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/oct/06/missing-maps-human-genome-project-unmapped-cities

Regards

Dudley
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Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping turn lanes on major roads

2014-11-08 Thread Chris Hill
The example you give has not been well mapped and the mapper needs to be 
contacted to explain about lanes. There is not an extra physical road between 
the carriageways so it should not be added as such.

On 7 November 2014 23:42:24 GMT, SomeoneElse  
wrote:
>I'd always assumed that the correct way to map turn lanes is via:
>
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:turn:lanes .
>
>However, some mappers in the UK* have started mapping each individual 
>lane as a separate parallel road.  Here's an example:
>
>http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/267402#map=19/53.03296/-0.52524&layers=N
>
>That note was obviously written from the point of view that mapping a 
>single carriageway road as one way with appropriate turn lanes tags is 
>"correct"; whether it is or not is the question that I'm asking here.
>
>So - should we map a dual carriageway as two parallel roads and a
>single 
>carriageway as one (with appropriate turn lanes) or is it equally valid
>
>(or even perhaps better) to map each turn lane as a separate parallel 
>road, even if there's nothing but a broken line of paint between them?
>
>I'm trying to get some idea of concensus here because obviously it'd be
>
>wrong for me to go back to another mapper and say "you're not doing it 
>correctly" if there isn't a concensus about the best way to do it, or 
>the concensus is that what they're doing is at least equally valid.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Andy
>
>* and this isn't a question about just one mapper - I've seen a few 
>people do it.  The example junction on the A17 just happens to be one 
>that I spotted today (and a junction that I'm familiar with from
>walking 
>that section of the Viking Way).
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping turn lanes on major roads

2014-11-08 Thread Ed Loach
> I'd always assumed that the correct way to map turn lanes is via:
> 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:turn:lanes .

This is what I started using after first using OsmAnd and seeing lane hints on 
some roads, and wondering how it knew. I started adding them elsewhere (not 
many so far).

As per Andrew's reply, I also tend to reserve separate ways for some physical 
separation greater than a white line (so a turn lane which becomes a slip road 
would become a separate way where they fork and the number of lanes on the main 
carriageway would be reduced accordingly).

Ed


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